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Wescoast
11-17-2006, 01:05 PM
I dunno, maybe everyone will just stick to ufck for this. It might be fun to start a thread here too.

Don't have any new news to post, just think the deals are getting waaaaaaaaaay out of hand.

last i heard was juan pierre was offered 3/30 :lmao

Jack
11-17-2006, 01:08 PM
last i heard was juan pierre was offered 3/30 :lmao

jesus, that is almost as bad as rumors that the sox are going to give jd drew 4/56. This is the offseason clubs should just shut it down and save themselves the headaches down the line.

Strugz10
11-17-2006, 01:12 PM
I hope we dump Pierre for Soriano :D

Wescoast
11-17-2006, 01:14 PM
ya pierre is worthless to the cubs and in no way worth 10 a year. give him to the giants...

if these #s for pierre and drew end up signed it will be scary to see how much soriano and lee sign for.

sarge
11-17-2006, 01:15 PM
talk is heating up about Barry Bonds going to the A's here in Nor Cal

Strugz10
11-17-2006, 01:16 PM
ya pierre is worthless to the cubs and in no way worth 10 a year. give him to the giants...

if these #s for pierre and drew end up signed it will be scary to see how much soriano and lee sign for.

Those are the two outfielders I want the most for the Cubs :lol

Jack
11-17-2006, 01:57 PM
talk is heating up about Barry Bonds going to the A's here in Nor Cal

It makes a lot more sense to overspend on bonds than it does on the big hurt. As bonds will certainly put more asses in the seats and bring nation attention.

they would have to open the upper deck again, thus restoring Fenway as the smallest park in the majors.

bsan83
11-17-2006, 02:00 PM
JD Drew for two years is at least less nauseating than JD Drew for 4. I really hope that rumor's true if he is going to end up in Boston.

akleiner34
11-17-2006, 02:49 PM
Did the Phillies actually sign Wes Helms?

spilatch
11-17-2006, 04:56 PM
Did the Phillies actually sign Wes Helms?

yes they did, great move... looks like the yanks are going after shea hillenbrand

simbro
11-17-2006, 04:57 PM
i am still shocked that frank thomas got 2 years $18 million.

Strugz10
11-17-2006, 05:04 PM
i am still shocked that frank thomas got 2 years $18 million.

Must be nice to be him :whatever

Jack
11-17-2006, 05:07 PM
yes they did, great move... looks like the yanks are going after shea hillenbrand

looks like they won't have to worry whose bringing the steroids.

Wescoast
11-17-2006, 05:09 PM
i have always been a big frank fan. loved him with the sox and was very happy to see him do well last year. his play certainly earned him a large paycheck... is it worth 9 a year? eh, i dont know. had he been an everyday player all year he would have been around ortiz levels possibly. its risky though at this stage due to injury and if the white sox or padres paid that much for someone old and injury prone id have a real hard time stomaching it.

BigEyedMullet
11-17-2006, 05:12 PM
I can see Gibbons and Thomas getting into it if things aren't going well and Frank starts whining. Overall, I think its a good move though, he has over a .900 OPS year in and year out.

simbro
11-17-2006, 05:13 PM
i have always been a big frank fan. loved him with the sox and was very happy to see him do well last year. his play certainly earned him a large paycheck... is it worth 9 a year? eh, i dont know. had he been an everyday player all year he would have been around ortiz levels possibly. its risky though at this stage due to injury and if the white sox or padres paid that much for someone old and injury prone id have a real hard time stomaching it.

yeah, being a sox fan, he was always my favorite player growing up. it was tough seeing him play somewhere else because it seemed like he would always be on the sox, but with as much as he was injured since 2000, i dont think i would have given him 9 mil a year.:screwy

Strugz10
11-19-2006, 03:14 PM
Report: Cubs agree to $136M deal with Soriano
SportsTicker

CHICAGO -- The Chicago Cubs' ownership is showing new manager Lou Piniella that they are serious about winning.

Chicago radio station ESPN 1000 reported Sunday that the Cubs have signed outfielder Alfonso Soriano to an eight-year contract worth approximately $136 million.

The move would clearly mark the highlight in an already busy offseason for the Cubs, who have signed free-agent infielder Mark DeRosa and have re-signed third baseman Aramis Ramirez and righthander Kerry Wood.

But the biggest prize is Soriano, who is coming off an outstanding all-around season for the Washington Nationals in which he hit .277 with 46 home runs and 95 RBI. The 30-year-old ranked third in the National League in homers and also stole 41 bases -- the sixth-highest total in the circuit.

After complaining in spring training about having to move from second base to left field, Soriano blossomed in his new surroundings. He led the league with 22 outfield assists, six more than his closest competitor, and displayed respectable range for a converted infielder.

Soriano became the first player in baseball history with 40 home runs, 40 stolen bases and 20 outfield assists in a single season. He also became the first member of the 40-40-40 club, which encapsulates homers, stolen bases and doubles.

An All-Star in each of the last five years, Soriano owns a .280 average with 208 home runs and 560 RBI in eight seasons with the New York Yankees, Texas Rangers and the Nationals.

Soriano won the AL Rookie of the Year award with the Yankees in 2001, when he hit .268 with 18 homers and 73 RBI. He finished third in MVP voting the following season, when he increased his average to .300 and collected 39 homers and 102 RBI.
FUCK YES!

bsan83
11-19-2006, 03:15 PM
Geoff, I'm sorry. Like really really sorry. I almost want to buy you a sympathy drink or 10.

Strugz10
11-19-2006, 03:18 PM
Geoff, I'm sorry. Like really really sorry. I almost want to buy you a sympathy drink or 10.

:whatever

Strugz10
11-19-2006, 03:23 PM
But seriously and 8 year deal? Fucking idiots.

bsan83
11-19-2006, 03:27 PM
The impending 5/60 the Red Sox are going to give JD Drew is going to just be vomit inducing, so I can't laugh too hard.

Strugz10
11-19-2006, 03:30 PM
The impending 5/60 the Red Sox are going to give JD Drew is going to just be vomit inducing, so I can't laugh too hard.

Yeah that's bad, but not as ridiculous as an eight year deal.

EClayton08
11-19-2006, 07:29 PM
I almost want to buy you a sympathy drink or 10.

can I get in on that billie?

bsan83
11-19-2006, 08:16 PM
Sure, when you stop fucking referring to me with a woman's name. :lol

EClayton08
11-19-2006, 08:38 PM
Sure, when you stop fucking referring to me with a woman's name. :lol

what else am I suspose to call you :lol

Wescoast
11-20-2006, 02:19 PM
im shocked at the soriano deal.

Wescoast
12-06-2006, 04:55 PM
a lot happened today. schmidt to the dodgers, jd drew signed (waste of $!) and a couple trades.

did i hear right... schmidt signed a 3 year deal worth like 40 million? insane.

Jack
12-06-2006, 05:24 PM
a lot happened today. schmidt to the dodgers, jd drew signed (waste of $!) and a couple trades.

did i hear right... schmidt signed a 3 year deal worth like 40 million? insane.

yea. Drew hasn't passed his physical yet (the last thread we can hold onto). But, it's been a good day at the meetings.

ESPN Deportes is still reporting Manny will be traded today to either the dodgers of mariners.

Wescoast
12-06-2006, 05:42 PM
i think mannys price is really good, especially when compared to soriano and what drew is getting and the like. if i was an american league team in need of hitting i would strongly consider looking at him.

Jack
12-07-2006, 09:01 AM
i think mannys price is really good, especially when compared to soriano and what drew is getting and the like. if i was an american league team in need of hitting i would strongly consider looking at him.

the money's not the problem. In this market teams have no problem giving up the money, it's the prospects they won't part with.

As a sox fan, and a huge manny supporter, I'm glad they are actually trying to rape teams in potential manny trades. He is just too good to give away to free up 20 mil (which, as you said is nothing in this market. hell you can't even get jd and julio for 20 mil per).

sarge
12-07-2006, 11:40 AM
a lot happened today. schmidt to the dodgers, jd drew signed (waste of $!) and a couple trades.

did i hear right... schmidt signed a 3 year deal worth like 40 million? insane.
too many good pitchers now in the NL West going against my Giants. Schmidt and Maddux.

I wish the Giants would just dump Bonds and grab ManRam

Buddy The Elf
12-07-2006, 11:47 AM
too many good pitchers ...Maddux.


it's not the 90's when maddux was good.:lol

Strugz10
12-07-2006, 11:53 AM
it's not the 90's when maddux was good.:lol

He's been one of the most resilient pitchers in recent history, and that's hard to find in this day and age. If Greg is starting for you he's gonna get you around 15 wins and also be an invaluable mentor to the rest of your bullpen.

Buddy The Elf
12-07-2006, 11:59 AM
He's been one of the most resilient pitchers in recent history, and that's hard to find in this day and age. If Greg is starting for you he's gonna get you around 15 wins and also be an invaluable mentor to the rest of your bullpen.



would you want him as a game 2 or 3 starter in the World Series for your team?
I sure as hell would not!!!

Wescoast
12-07-2006, 01:24 PM
maddux isnt anywhere near a great pitcher anymore, but that isnt the point. but he will be an excellent addition to the padres already strong staff.

Strugz10
12-07-2006, 03:34 PM
would you want him as a game 2 or 3 starter in the World Series for your team?
I sure as hell would not!!!

Of course not.....I'd want him for game 4 or 5 if necessary :)

Buddy The Elf
12-07-2006, 04:17 PM
Of course not.....I'd want him for game 4 or 5 if necessary :)



what a dumb statement:lol

Jack
12-07-2006, 04:44 PM
maddux isnt anywhere near a great pitcher anymore, but that isnt the point. but he will be an excellent addition to the padres already strong staff.

he can still be a fourth or fifth starter in the nl. Personally, I think that says more about the nl than it does greg maddux.

Strugz10
12-07-2006, 05:17 PM
what a dumb statement:lol

I'm not saying he'd be in the top 15 of pitchers I would pick for my 4th or 5th starter, but it could be a lot worse.

sarge
12-07-2006, 05:44 PM
it's not the 90's when maddux was good.:lol
he'll still be a witch to the Giants. they suck against him