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FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 03:40 PM
kicking off the end of my dmb detox that has gone about 2 months (since whenever the day live trax 6 got here)..

12.01.98
First Union Center
Philadelphia, PA

Seek Up>>
Heatbeat>>
Pantala Naga Pampa>>
Rapunzel
So Much to Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
Don't Drink the Water $
Proudest Monkey
Help Myself
#41 (feat. Sojourn of Arjuana) @
Drive In, Drive Out
Crush
True Reflections
Two Step $
Tripping Billies $
________________

Lover Lay Down
Stefan Solo>>
Watchtower (feat. Stairway to Heaven interpolation)

Entire Set with Tim Reynolds and Butch Taylor
$ w Bela Fleck
@ w Bela Fleck and Jeff Coffin

Strugz10
12-01-2006, 03:48 PM
You mean it's not 8.27.00? :lol :lol

TheNoise
12-01-2006, 03:49 PM
great #41

i enjoy this show :upyours

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 03:51 PM
im gonig to be revisiting alot of december shows over the next few weeks.. although many of them from 98...

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 03:52 PM
the stairway to heaven interpolation at the end of this show is one of my favorite things from the fall 98 tour... i wish they had done it more then just this once (or if there are more i dont know about it).

Jack
12-01-2006, 03:54 PM
'$' should be decreed the permanent designation for one Mr. Bela Fleck in text files throughout the land!

Jack
12-01-2006, 03:55 PM
this was also one of my good buddies first shows. Pretty good two night stand to start you dmb obsession. Unfortunately I had to miss this, but the boys sure made Worcester worth my while.

Kerwin
12-01-2006, 03:57 PM
my friend went to this show and hated DMB

he bought live at red rocks the next day.

i went the night before, my first show.

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 03:57 PM
12-5 albany (which ill be listening to in a few days) was supposed to be my 3rd show.. but i trusted the wrong friend to get tickets and she didnt... didnt know at the time that i would never get the chance to see tim sitting in, but it also was the reason i joined warehouse originally.

spruce
12-01-2006, 03:58 PM
'$' should be decreed the permanent designation for one Mr. Bela Fleck in text files throughout the land!

a'fuc$ingmen to that

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 03:58 PM
btw if anyone has a recording of this show (12-1) that isnt awful, please let me know, because it is really bad.

bsan83
12-01-2006, 04:01 PM
I really wish I was able to see Tim and Bela play with these guys.

celluloid hero
12-01-2006, 04:06 PM
im gonig to be revisiting alot of december shows over the next few weeks.. although many of them from 98...

there's a new "This Day in DMB History" on the almanac front page to help you with your journey... oooo....

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 04:08 PM
there's a new "This Day in DMB History" on the almanac front page to help you with your journey... oooo....

interesting, ill probably just actualy listen to the shows that i have though, as many as i can, that arent from 2005.

maybe hit up a few dave and friends show in a few weeks also.

simbro
12-01-2006, 04:13 PM
i just listened to some of the winter 98 shows and they are all pretty solid. that was a good run.

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 04:14 PM
i just listened to some of the winter 98 shows and they are all pretty solid. that was a good run.

if pretty solid is the best you can come up for the best run in the history of dmb, i dont know what to say.

spruce
12-01-2006, 04:19 PM
interesting, ill probably just actualy listen to the shows that i have though, as many as i can, that arent from 2005.

maybe hit up a few dave and friends show in a few weeks also.

mmm, good call...I was taking a mini break...a week or so, like I do every now and then...

Watched the D+F 12/13/03 DVD, was a really nice treat and was something that I hadn't seen (D+F) in quite awhile....maybe something like that would be cool for 'ya. And I really don't like watching any of the DVDs...it just makes me too 'used to' to too many of the little things that make being a concert special....don't know, could just be me. Point being, cause I'm not making much sense...is the D+F DVD was a great treat after a break. :)

simbro
12-01-2006, 04:20 PM
if pretty solid is the best you can come up for the best run in the history of dmb, i dont know what to say.

i was talking about each show being pretty solid in that whole run. normally you have a show or 2 that you could say wasnt the best, but every one of the shows was pretty solid, which adds up to being the best run in dmb history.

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 04:25 PM
i was talking about each show being pretty solid in that whole run. normally you have a show or 2 that you could say wasnt the best, but every one of the shows was pretty solid, which adds up to being the best run in dmb history.

oooh. okay then yes i agree, i just wish the recordings were better. they should just release more of these shows.

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 04:27 PM
mmm, good call...I was taking a mini break...a week or so, like I do every now and then...

Watched the D+F 12/13/03 DVD, was a really nice treat and was something that I hadn't seen (D+F) in quite awhile....maybe something like that would be cool for 'ya. And I really don't like watching any of the DVDs...it just makes me too 'used to' to too many of the little things that make being a concert special....don't know, could just be me. Point being, cause I'm not making much sense...is the D+F DVD was a great treat after a break. :)

yeah im not a real big dvd guy... besides the official releases i dont have any videos anymore. i dont have a whole lot of desire to sit there and watch, i prefer to have music on in the background, and since i spend alot of time driving in LA the car is normally my prime listening.

spruce
12-01-2006, 04:32 PM
yeah im not a real big dvd guy... besides the official releases i dont have any videos anymore. i dont have a whole lot of desire to sit there and watch, i prefer to have music on in the background, and since i spend alot of time driving in LA the car is normally my prime listening.

Agreed, and hugely agreed, since we live in the same city...perfect listening time.

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 04:33 PM
Agreed, and hugely agreed, since we live in the same city...perfect listening time.

i always forget who lives here.

Wescoast
12-01-2006, 05:12 PM
im with you guys. i have a lot of dvds, but havent watched them in a long time. maybe ill give them all away in one big bundle one of these days soon.

Wescoast
12-01-2006, 05:13 PM
but professional released dvds are great. i prize my dead dvds (downhill from here, truckin up to buffalo....)

malachite00
12-01-2006, 05:20 PM
im with you guys. i have a lot of dvds, but havent watched them in a long time. maybe ill give them all away in one big bundle one of these days soon.

I'd be happy to take some off your hands. I just recently got more into watching DVDs and only have the official releases right now. I run them on my Mac at work while I use my PC. Makes for a nice work environment. :)

Wescoast
12-01-2006, 05:31 PM
aight ill keep it in mind. im moving in february so itll be by then. its a lot of dmb/d&t but all 03 and before. i got in a mini dvd kick briefly after the 03 tour, but havent collected since.

malachite00
12-01-2006, 05:45 PM
Cool - it looks like I'm just up the 5 from you (carlsbad), so I'm close by.

FishMonkeyMan
12-01-2006, 08:15 PM
oh how i love the bela and tim two steps

TheNoise
12-01-2006, 10:51 PM
oh how i love the bela and tim two steps12-3-98 is the best one for that but this one ain't that bad :)

TheNoise
12-01-2006, 11:01 PM
12-1-98 Two Step: http://www.sendspace.com/file/639j2y

12-1-98 #41: http://www.sendspace.com/file/3w3awz

Welsh
12-02-2006, 12:19 AM
It's December, and there's no tour scheduled. I will be revisiting many of the great December moments in DMB history. It is easily the best cumulative month on the DMB calendar.

FishMonkeyMan
12-02-2006, 04:18 PM
It's December, and there's no tour scheduled. I will be revisiting many of the great December moments in DMB history. It is easily the best cumulative month on the DMB calendar.

dec 98, 96, yes, but overall id say december tours have been really weak, especially in this decade. there is the occasional standout show, not standout tour.

FishMonkeyMan
12-04-2006, 03:05 PM
12.04.00

All State Arena
Rosemont, IL

The Stone
Best of What's Around
So Much to Say
Jimi Thing
Granny
JTR
The Song that Jane Likes
True Reflections
Rhyme and Reason
#41
Cortez the Killer
Grey St.
(Is Chicago Tease)
Watchtower
_____________

Halloween (devil music discussion)
Two Step

The only real comment I have as I pop in what was once one of my favorite shows to listen to, is when did I lose the aud and get stuck with this IEM. I just started it and didn't realise I only had the IEM at this point, but now I am committed to it, so.. good show to revisit :upyours. One of the last pre-ed shows and one of the last shows to feature just the 5 core members of the band. This show features one of the only guest free Cortez the Killers that I have heard, an excellent pre-BS grey street, and one of the most energetic and so impromptu Halloweens of the post 1998 era.

Strugz10
12-04-2006, 03:19 PM
12.4.00 is a prime example of quality over quantity.

JWood
12-04-2006, 03:20 PM
I once had the "alternate source" to this show, but have lost it :(

FishMonkeyMan
12-04-2006, 03:23 PM
12.4.00 is a prime example of quality over quantity.

i mean its a little mellow for me, but, ive always had less of an issue with mellow in december shows then i have in summer shows. this setlist is outstanding though.

i just wish i wasnt hearing carter's backing vocals over anything else.

Strugz10
12-04-2006, 03:26 PM
i mean its a little mellow for me, but, ive always had less of an issue with mellow in december shows then i have in summer shows. this setlist is outstanding though.

i just wish i wasnt hearing carter's backing vocals over anything else.

You need to re-download this show then. The AUD I have is fine.

JWood
12-04-2006, 03:29 PM
This could've been my first show, seeing as I was into the band in '98, but my first concerts were in '01 :(

FishMonkeyMan
12-04-2006, 03:35 PM
You need to re-download this show then. The AUD I have is fine.

yeah, i do, thats what i said i dont know where my aud went i only have the IEM, and i dont know where and when i would have even gotten an IEM.

raven
12-04-2006, 03:40 PM
12-5 albany (which ill be listening to in a few days) was supposed to be my 3rd show.. but i trusted the wrong friend to get tickets and she didnt... didnt know at the time that i would never get the chance to see tim sitting in, but it also was the reason i joined warehouse originally.
that was my 5th show

Wescoast
12-04-2006, 03:47 PM
12/4 is one of the best shows ive been to. great in everyway. a real song lover's set, especially at that time. and the halloween... crazy moment. but really everything about the show is awesome.

simbro
12-04-2006, 03:57 PM
12.4.00 is still my favorite show i have been to. just everything about that night was perfect. from the bowa opener to the two step closer it would be hard to top that show for me.

JorgeCavos
12-04-2006, 04:19 PM
Can anyone tell if it's already on, or if someone can put the 12/4/00 IEM on OiNK?

dsera
12-04-2006, 04:20 PM
Can anyone tell if it's already on, or if someone can put the 12/4/00 IEM on OiNK?
IEMs aren't allowed on Oink

FishMonkeyMan
12-04-2006, 04:23 PM
if somene can get me the aud of this show, i promise to destroy my iem copy.. i hate listening to these things.

JorgeCavos
12-04-2006, 04:27 PM
IEMs aren't allowed on Oink

That's right, I forgot about that. I remember they were several months ago when I originally joined OiNK but no longer are. Thanks for reminding me

hornet
12-04-2006, 07:51 PM
12/4/00 still my favorite DMB show I have ever been to.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 03:01 PM
December 5, 1998
Pepsi Arena

Warehouse
Don't Drink the Water $
So Much to Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
Crush
Heartbeat Intro>>
Pantala Naga Pampa>>
Rapunzel
Two Step $
Rhyme and Reason
Jimi Thing
The Last Stop $
Recently $
Crash Into Me $
Drive In, Drive Out
_____________________

Christmas Song
Tripping Billies

Continuing on in the revisiting of December shows, today I look back at what should have been my 3rd show, but due to a ticket mishap was the one that i missed for no good reason, and the last legitimate chance I had to see DMB w Tim.

Before Flecktones guest spots became 30 minute (outstanding versions) of one song a night, Bela was sitting on many different songs each night. this show features some outstanding performances by him, as well as Tim and Butch who was still new to the band at this point.

dubsnevets
12-06-2006, 03:06 PM
December 5, 1998
Pepsi Arena

That Last Stop - Recently combo is awesome. Two incredible versions of those songs :upyours

bsan83
12-06-2006, 03:09 PM
Would someone mind putting up that Recently for me? It's been a long while since I've listened to it.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 03:09 PM
That Last Stop - Recently combo is awesome. Two incredible versions of those songs :upyours

havent listened to this show in a long time, so im looking forward to it :upyours

im still on dont drink the water.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 03:10 PM
Would someone mind putting up that Recently for me? It's been a long while since I've listened to it.

i cant, my cd drive is broken so im listening off my actual stereo.

BeQuietAndDrive
12-06-2006, 03:13 PM
This show also features one of the very few times Proudest Monkey didn't segue into Satellite.

dubsnevets
12-06-2006, 03:14 PM
Would someone mind putting up that Recently for me? It's been a long while since I've listened to it.

Recently
December 5, 1998
Pepsi Arena, Albany, NY

http://www.mediafire.com/?2yduilxbybz

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 03:18 PM
oh how i miss tim's riffs on, well, everything..

smts>too much

i love what they have done with too much in the last 3 years, but i still miss tim's riff.

raven
12-06-2006, 03:19 PM
A friend from high school that was going to nearby RPI at the time offered me a ticket to go to 12.5.98 with him. So glad I made it to the show. During the Two Step intro he was about to leave to take a piss.. I told him to wait because he didn't want to miss what was coming. He thanked me after. Our seats weren't that great, but it was just incredible to be there for the show.

dubsnevets
12-06-2006, 03:30 PM
oh how i miss tim's riffs on, well, everything..

smts>too much

i love what they have done with too much in the last 3 years, but i still miss tim's riff.

I agree. I was actually listening to that Too Much last night and thinking about how I really liked what Tim brought to that song in particular during that tour.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 03:35 PM
I agree. I was actually listening to that Too Much last night and thinking about how I really liked what Tim brought to that song in particular during that tour.

crush is another example of a song that in principal i love, but that i havent enjoyed dmb style (except maybe this year) since tim stopped playing with dmb. put on a 98 crush, or a dave and tim crush and im excited, but without his guitar the song is boring to me.

raven
12-06-2006, 03:52 PM
This show also features one of the very few times Proudest Monkey didn't segue into Satellite.
which show?

bsan83
12-06-2006, 03:53 PM
Recently
December 5, 1998
Pepsi Arena, Albany, NY

http://www.mediafire.com/?2yduilxbybz

Thanks :upyours

Mersh
12-06-2006, 03:57 PM
That Last Stop is one of the best ever (actually it is the best IMO).

I wish the tape was a little bit better.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:04 PM
That Last Stop is one of the best ever (actually it is the best IMO).

I wish the tape was a little bit better.

yeah the tape isnt great but its better then the 12/1 tape

bsan83
12-06-2006, 04:11 PM
So I know DMBela get ballwashed here seemingly to the point of excess, but good Lord, his and Tim's fills on this Recently are beautiful.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:12 PM
tim's work on rhyme and reason is really cool also, damn this tour makes me happy.

Mersh
12-06-2006, 04:13 PM
release this whole december run and I'll never bitch about a release again.

bsan83
12-06-2006, 04:13 PM
tim's work on rhyme and reason is really cool also, damn this tour makes me happy.

I honestly don't know if that 10 day stretch can be overstated, as much as we may try.

bsan83
12-06-2006, 04:15 PM
I mean Jesus, go to about 2:30 or so into Recently, for the last chorus before the jam part....

:surrender

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:15 PM
release this whole december run and I'll never bitch about a release again.

not just december... tack on 10/31/98 and 11/21/98

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:16 PM
I mean Jesus, go to about 2:30 or so into Recently, for the last chorus before the jam part....

:surrender

im on jimi thing

Mersh
12-06-2006, 04:16 PM
not just december... tack on 10/31/98 and 11/21/98

fair enough

and they nail the transition in that Last Stop...plus the build up to it...

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:17 PM
fair enough

and they nail the transition in that Last Stop...plus the build up to it...

were you at this show? im still to this day pissed off that i wasnt. its also the reason i spent 14 hours in line at the on center in syracuse to get those dave and tim tickets instead of trusting someone else to buy them. that was a cold night.

Babbit
12-06-2006, 04:19 PM
release this whole december run and I'll never bitch about a release again.

Amen.

Mersh
12-06-2006, 04:20 PM
were you at this show? im still to this day pissed off that i wasnt. its also the reason i spent 14 hours in line at the on center in syracuse to get those dave and tim tickets instead of trusting someone else to buy them. that was a cold night.

Yes I did a whole December run. I also waited outside the Landmark for those D+T tickets for about that long too. Sold out before I got to the box office though. Oh well, I still got tickets in the long run.

bsan83
12-06-2006, 04:22 PM
release this whole december run and I'll never bitch about a release again.

No shit. They can charge whatever the hell they want too.

You went to this whole run? Fuck, you win.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:22 PM
Yes I did a whole December run. I also waited outside the Landmark for those D+T tickets for about that long too. Sold out before I got to the box office though. Oh well, I still got tickets in the long run.

we walked over to the landmark, saw the line, decided to try the on-center. i was 4th in line there and still ended up 26 rows back.

Mersh
12-06-2006, 04:24 PM
we walked over to the landmark, saw the line, decided to try the on-center. i was 4th in line there and still ended up 26 rows back.

I ended up with amazing seats to that show. 26th isn't bad in the Landmark though.

FishMonkeyMan
12-06-2006, 04:25 PM
I ended up with amazing seats to that show. 26th isn't bad in the Landmark though.

what did that thing sell out in like 4 minutes or something rediculous.

Mersh
12-06-2006, 04:25 PM
No shit. They can charge whatever the hell they want too.

You went to this whole run? Fuck, you win.

Not the whole run. MSG, Albany, and Worcester...my own little run.

Mersh
12-06-2006, 04:26 PM
what did that thing sell out in like 4 minutes or something rediculous.

Yeah something like that. Which is funny because there were like 4 people in line in 97.

bsan83
12-06-2006, 04:28 PM
Not the whole run. MSG, Albany, and Worcester...my own little run.

I mean, it's basically those venues and Philly that make up "the" run.


So yeah, you win. :lol

Crush87
12-06-2006, 04:32 PM
Gonna watch this DVD tonight :upyours

raven
12-07-2006, 09:56 AM
I like listening to the 12.3 flecktones opening set around christmas every year.

"really big show.. really big show"

FishMonkeyMan
12-07-2006, 03:46 PM
December 21, 2002
Madison Square Garden

Drive in Drive Out
Granny
(Christmas Time is Here)
Pig
What Would You Say
Grey Street
Fool to Think
Loving Wings>>
Where Are You Going
Seek Up
Diggin a Ditch
Stefan (of izstyle.com) Solo>>
Watchtower
Grace is Gone
The Space Between
So Much To Say>> *
Anyone Seen the Bridge>> *
Too Much *
Sex Machine *@
_________________

Halloween
Ants Marching

* w Karl Denson's Tiny Universe
@ w James Brown and Friends

Skipping around a little today I pulled out another one of those shows that I could have, and should have gone to, but for no reason whatsoever didn't. After all the Halloween talk I was in the mood to hear another version of it today so I went with the first full band version since 98, and therefore this show...

Drive in Drive Out opener, Seek Up, mid set Watchtower,
Oh yeah, and James Brown was there...

FishMonkeyMan
12-07-2006, 04:18 PM
Fool to think on the electric :upyours

...needs to comeback in 07.

JWood
12-07-2006, 04:26 PM
Fool to think on the electric :upyours

...needs to comeback in 07.

yes sir

superjonyj
12-07-2006, 06:57 PM
Carter in the seek up intro is just ridiculous. But I can't objectively evaluate the show since it was my first time in NYC and the warehouse upgraded us to front row center stage. A good night...

Gary.
12-07-2006, 07:19 PM
i have never had more fun at a dmb show than i did that night.

dmb2much40
12-07-2006, 09:13 PM
what about 12.08.00?

Blue Water [partial]
JTR
Satellite
What Would You Say
One Sweet World
Granny
Bartender
#41
So Much to Say »
Anyone Seen the Bridge? »
Too Much
Grey Street
True Reflections
Lie in Our Graves »
All Along the Watchtower
Christmas Song
Halloween
Ants Marching

the blue water-->JTR is great. and from there, the whole set just picks up steam. great performance.

FishMonkeyMan
12-07-2006, 09:55 PM
what about 12.08.00?

Blue Water [partial]
JTR
Satellite
What Would You Say
One Sweet World
Granny
Bartender
#41
So Much to Say
Anyone Seen the Bridge?
Too Much
Grey Street
True Reflections
Lie in Our Graves
All Along the Watchtower
Christmas Song
Halloween
Ants Marching

the blue water-->JTR is great. and from there, the whole set just picks up steam. great performance.

you're skipping ahead...

Crush87
12-07-2006, 09:57 PM
why is this on the 21st alreayd?

FishMonkeyMan
12-07-2006, 10:16 PM
why is this on the 21st alreayd?

becuase im going out of order so i can mix up the years.

Crush87
12-07-2006, 10:18 PM
becuase im going out of order so i can mix up the years.

dumby.

Ive had a great time doing the dec '98 run so far

Also checking out the dec '94 shows, some of those were fantastic

FishMonkeyMan
12-08-2006, 02:59 PM
Mixing it up slightly at the halfway point of this little run through classic december dmb history...

Dave, Tim, Stefan
December 16, 1996
The Town Hall
New York, NY

Warehouse
Lie In Our Graves
Crash Into Me
Christmas Song
Tripping Billies
Let You Down
Lover Lay Down
Minarets
Deed is Done
Typical Situation
Recently
Too Much
Jimi Thing>>
What Will Become of Me
Stream
Satellite
Dancing Nancies
Say Goodbye
Ants Marching
_______________

#41
Cry Freedom

All I can in advance of my listen, this is a unique, and entertaining show and it would be nice if they would do this again some time...

cmitch525
12-08-2006, 03:15 PM
i have never had more fun at a dmb show than i did that night.

I agree with this. my 28th Birthday and a show I will never forget

cmitch525
12-08-2006, 03:16 PM
how is the recording for this?

Mixing it up slightly at the halfway point of this little run through classic december dmb history...

Dave, Tim, Stefan
December 16, 1996
The Town Hall
New York, NY

Warehouse
Lie In Our Graves
Crash Into Me
Christmas Song
Tripping Billies
Let You Down
Lover Lay Down
Minarets
Deed is Done
Typical Situation
Recently
Too Much
Jimi Thing>>
What Will Become of Me
Stream
Satellite
Dancing Nancies
Say Goodbye
Ants Marching
_______________

#41
Cry Freedom

All I can in advance of my listen, this is a unique, and entertaining show and it would be nice if they would do this again some time...

FishMonkeyMan
12-08-2006, 03:16 PM
how is the recording for this?

pretty good, everything is audible. it only sounds moderately bad during the crowd screaming parts.

cmitch525
12-09-2006, 07:59 AM
Listened to 12.3.98 yesterday. What a show!

Ledge
12-09-2006, 08:18 AM
Listened to 12.3.98 yesterday. What a show!

The best show they have ever played.

Crush87
12-09-2006, 12:47 PM
Listening to 12/9/05 for the first time since that night, what a really unenjoyable show.

somf4eva
12-09-2006, 01:29 PM
What about 12-08-93?

1 The Song That Jane Likes
2 Tripping Billies
3 One Sweet World
4 Granny
5 Dancing Nancies
6 True Reflections
7 Say Goodbye (D and T)
8 I'll Back You Up (Carter, Dave, Tim)
9 #36
10 Minarets
11 Seek Up
12 Christmas Song (C, D and T)
Carter and Tim Jam » (C and T)
13 Ants Marching

Tim on everything. This show features a sick minarets, STJL, and IBYU. Also, "This was the last regularly scheduled, Wednesday night Flood Zone show - the end of an era for the band for sure."(Almanac)

FishMonkeyMan
12-12-2006, 02:19 PM
December 8, 2000
Bryce Jordan Center

(Blue Water)>>
JTR
Satellite
What Would You Say
One Sweet World
Granny
Bartender
#41
So Much to Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
Grey Street
True Reflections
Lie In Our Graves>>
Watchtower
____________

Christmas Song
Halloween
Ants Marching

Popped this show in for 2 reasons: one of personal favorite versions of halloween, and a pre overly extended Bartender. This is one of my favorites from the 2000 tour, and since I don't think my live trax will get here today I figured i would pop this in instead.

BlueWaterDMB
12-12-2006, 02:25 PM
I'm so pissed off that I missed that show.

FishMonkeyMan
12-12-2006, 02:25 PM
I'm so pissed off that I missed that show.

i was pissed that i went to albany the next night and missed halloween by one day.

Wescoast
12-12-2006, 02:29 PM
this show rocks. i think i like allstate 1 a little more (more unique) but they both top a solid 00 winter tour.

FishMonkeyMan
12-12-2006, 02:32 PM
this show rocks. i think i like allstate 1 a little more (more unique) but they both top a solid 00 winter tour.

winter 2000 was definitely a pretty solid tour by comparison to 2002 and 2005.

Wescoast
12-12-2006, 02:35 PM
winter 2000 was definitely a pretty solid tour by comparison to 2002 and 2005.

especially when you compare it to them.

Babbit
12-12-2006, 02:49 PM
Someone on the boards at this time was giving tickets away. Myself and another guy from the boards who I don't even know almost drove down from MA/CT to go, in the snow...we decided against it...I came home to see that set and nearly cried...

bsan83
12-12-2006, 03:22 PM
December 8, 2000
Bryce Jordan Center

(Blue Water)>>
JTR
Satellite
What Would You Say
One Sweet World
Granny
Bartender
#41
So Much to Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
Grey Street
True Reflections
Lie In Our Graves>>
Watchtower
____________

Christmas Song
Halloween
Ants Marching

Popped this show in for 2 reasons: one of personal favorite versions of halloween, and a pre overly extended Bartender. This is one of my favorites from the 2000 tour, and since I don't think my live trax will get here today I figured i would pop this in instead.

I remember checking the set and going to a buddy of mine, "they opened with some tune I've never heard of, new tune maybe?" And he damn near shit a brick when I told him what it was.

Supposedly they changed like 1/3 of the set for this show too, for the better.

FishMonkeyMan
12-12-2006, 03:35 PM
you know, in listening to a few 2000 shows in the past two weeks, i definitely think grey street was too long pre busted stuff. its too short now, but it was too long in 2000.

bsan83
12-12-2006, 03:37 PM
I generally agree with that, though the RFK version is fucking badass.

bsan83
12-13-2006, 10:40 AM
Having just popped up in my iTunes, I have to say that the (Blue Water) --> JTR has to be the most badass opener in a long, long time. :upyours

dubsnevets
12-13-2006, 11:02 AM
Having just popped up in my iTunes, I have to say that the (Blue Water) --> JTR has to be the most badass opener in a long, long time. :upyours

:upyours That short break between "Completely true" and the opening chords of JTR is glorious. It's also fun listening to everyone freaking out in the crowd during Blue Water on the AUD.

1:23 -- "OH MY FUCKING GOD!" :lol

ThememanXX
12-13-2006, 11:19 AM
my first show....loved EVERY minute of it. That Grey Street is also underrated, awesome stuff.

Crush87
12-13-2006, 11:53 AM
Probably wont have time to listen to 12/13/00 today :downyours

cmitch525
12-13-2006, 12:12 PM
Taking a listen to this one today (daud/dsbd matrix) sweet!

Dave Matthews Band
December 13, 2000
Madison Square Garden, New York, NY

One Sweet World
Don't Drink the Water
Recently
Grey Street
Lie In Our Graves
Bartender
Granny
True Reflections
Lover Lay Down
So Much To Say ...>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? ...>
Too Much
Cortez The Killer G1
Exodus G1
Ants Marching G1
Encore:
Grace Is Gone
Heartbeat ...>
Pantala Naga Pampa ...>
Rapunzel

Guests:
G1 Warren Haynes

bsan83
12-13-2006, 01:04 PM
I dunno why it gets listed as the Heartbeat for Rapunzel on 12.13, when it's pretty clearly something completely different.

kaisek
12-13-2006, 01:49 PM
i was pissed that i went to albany the next night and missed halloween by one day.

you and me both... I went to Gund arena 12/7 the night before and saw this the next day..... FUCK THAT!

cmitch525
12-13-2006, 02:03 PM
I dunno why it gets listed as the Heartbeat for Rapunzel on 12.13, when it's pretty clearly something completely different.

Good point. I actually really like the little thing they did before pnp

Crush87
12-13-2006, 02:04 PM
wasn't it called the skipping jam or something for a while there?

FishMonkeyMan
12-13-2006, 03:31 PM
just for the hell of it, now that ive finished live trax 7, and listened to live trax 1 in the past few days, both of them deserve mention in this thread just on account of being two of the greatest shows in december dmb history, and overall.

so to 12.31.96 and 12.08.98 :upyours

ill be busting out a random post 2000 show tomorrow...

cmitch525
12-14-2006, 11:48 AM
wasn't it called the skipping jam or something for a while there?Thats what I new it as. Btw I see you are from LI as well.

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 02:58 PM
Saturday Dec 10 2005
Madison Square Garden


Pantala Naga Pampa
Rapunzel *
What Would You Say
#41 *
One Sweet World *
So Much To Say *
Seek Up
Hunger For The Great Light *
Minarets
Dream Girl
Linus And Lucy *
Stand Up *
Jimi Thing *+
Smooth Rider *~
Louisiana Bayou ~*
__________________

Christmas Song
Halloween
Ants Marching



Show Notes:
* Rashawn Ross
+ Mike Doughty
~ Robert Randolph

This is not classic, by any means, but I've been listening to far too much 98/2000 in the last week, and I listened to 12/31/96 yesterday, so I figured I would put this show on. I'm also not sure I ever even listened to it when I downloaded it, considering its still on my harddrive and was never burned to cd... anyway, cheers to MSG?

GreyStHokie
12-14-2006, 03:05 PM
12/10/05 was a really great show..enjoyed it thoroughly

and i seem to remember people calling the "heartbeat" jam of 12/13/2000 the "tight pants jam" or something

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 03:06 PM
12/10/05 was a really great show..enjoyed it thoroughly

and i seem to remember people calling the "heartbeat" jam of 12/13/2000 the "tight pants jam" or something

im enjoying it so far. i wasnt going to do any 2005 shows but ive been listening to alot of the same setlists lately so i figured what the hell.

Crush87
12-14-2006, 03:11 PM
Btw I see you are from LI as well.

Oh yes. Whereabouts?

Mersh
12-14-2006, 03:28 PM
an 05 as a classic? ARRRGGGHHHHH

bring on the hate everyone who was there I draw the line here.

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 03:29 PM
an 05 as a classic? ARRRGGGHHHHH

bring on the hate everyone who was there I draw the line here.

i said its not a classic and i put the word classic in " " in the thread title today... i also said i was lazy, but honestly im enjoying this show.

Mersh
12-14-2006, 03:31 PM
I only read the thread title and...well, yeah

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 03:33 PM
I only read the thread title and...well, yeah

i disclaimered myself well

Strugz10
12-14-2006, 03:36 PM
Even "classic" is stretching it :hi

groove merchant
12-14-2006, 03:41 PM
i 86ed a ton of 05 shows from the HD. there were a few tracks that were nailed but i didnt think 05 brought much love.

bsan83
12-14-2006, 03:42 PM
I'm sorry, but the end of this set absolutely fucking sucks.

Mersh
12-14-2006, 03:42 PM
I'm sorry, but the end of this set absolutely fucking sucks.

but but Halloween

I agree, its a nose dive for the last 5-6 tunes.

bsan83
12-14-2006, 03:43 PM
but but Halloween

I agree, its a nose dive for the last 5-6 tunes.

AND STREAMERS! AND OMG THE ENERGY!!!!!

Crush87
12-14-2006, 03:44 PM
AND STREAMERS! AND OMG THE ENERGY!!!!!

It was confetti, alright

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 03:45 PM
dreamgirl is the only track i wont be listening to. the rest of this set works for me. its no 98 show, but i enjoy these tracks and havent heard any of them in months.

also, that encore is the perfect december encore.

Crush87
12-14-2006, 03:46 PM
dreamgirl is the only track i wont be listening to. the rest of this set works for me. its no 98 show, but i enjoy these tracks and havent heard any of them in months.

also, that encore is the perfect december encore.

As terrible as this sounds, i was pissed to be sitting through a second Christmas Song at a two night stand. Thought that was lame.

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 03:47 PM
As terrible as this sounds, i was pissed to be sitting through a second Christmas Song at a two night stand. Thought that was lame.

i would have been to, they shouldnt have played it both nights.

bsan83
12-14-2006, 03:47 PM
It was confetti, alright

Oh okay. It's a lot better now then. ;)

Mersh
12-14-2006, 03:48 PM
Hunger
Stand Up
Dreamgirl
Smooth Rider
05 Jimi

oof

I won't say Bayou with Randolph because that will go over like a lead balloon

noletorious901
12-14-2006, 03:48 PM
AND STREAMERS! AND OMG THE ENERGY!!!!!

:upyours confetti and Hunger all in one night. It was amazing.

Aside from that, I enjoyed the show, even the end run of the set. Bayou, Stand Up and *gasp* smooth rider were fun. Really the only part of the set I didn't enjoy were Dreamgirl and Mike Doughty's embarassing rambling though Jimi.

Crush87
12-14-2006, 03:50 PM
Oh okay. It's a lot better now then. ;)

As long as you're sorry.

Crush87
12-14-2006, 03:51 PM
Hunger
Stand Up
Dreamgirl
Smooth Rider
05 Jimi

oof

I won't say Bayou with Randolph because that will go over like a lead balloon

Place was fucking DEAD at the end of Dreamgirl. Though, I heard more screams for DG than Minarets :downyours

bsan83
12-14-2006, 03:52 PM
Hunger
Stand Up
Dreamgirl
Smooth Rider
05 Jimi

oof

I won't say Bayou with Randolph because that will go over like a lead balloon

I generally dig Randolph on Bayou, and I like the song a lot in general, but I was really dissapointed with it in C'Ville this year.

bsan83
12-14-2006, 03:53 PM
Place was fucking DEAD at the end of Dreamgirl. Though, I heard more screams for DG than Minarets :downyours

As dead as C'Ville's Smooth Rider?

noletorious901
12-14-2006, 03:54 PM
I generally dig Randolph on Bayou, and I like the song a lot in general, but I was really dissapointed with it in C'Ville this year.

I thought it was a decent version, but with it showing up in the set the night before, it was just unnecessary. And C-Ville Smooth Rider :boohoo

BeQuietAndDrive
12-14-2006, 03:54 PM
Bayou and Smooth Rider were fucking awful at CVille this year.

But both of them brought the freaking pwn at MSG last year. And Smooth Rider is easily my most hated DMB song.

Crush87
12-14-2006, 03:55 PM
As dead as C'Ville's Smooth Rider?

Shutup. :lol

bsan83
12-14-2006, 03:57 PM
Bayou and Smooth Rider were fucking awful at CVille this year.

But both of them brought the freaking pwn at MSG last year. And Smooth Rider is easily my most hated DMB song.

I'm trying to think of a situation where Smooth Rider "pwns," and most of them involve being on enough hallucinogens to kill Barbaro.

cmitch525
12-14-2006, 03:57 PM
Oh yes. Whereabouts?

originally Setauket/port jefferson area now Floral Park

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 03:59 PM
people that say pwn ought to be punched in the face for being tools.

BeQuietAndDrive
12-14-2006, 04:03 PM
people that say pwn ought to be punched in the face for being tools.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/img/health/marijuana080205.jpg

http://www.fieldmuseum.org/research_collections/anthropology/anthro_sites/boone/gallery_photos/kettle.gif

http://www.simplyvictoria.net/Avatars/Lloyd/sirius_black.gif

Crush87
12-14-2006, 04:05 PM
originally Setauket/port jefferson area now Floral Park

Oh alright. I used to live out in Riverhead, been in Smithtown for the past ten years or so

Rowsdower
12-14-2006, 04:11 PM
As terrible as this sounds, i was pissed to be sitting through a second Christmas Song at a two night stand. Thought that was lame.

It's not like it replaced a different, better song, or was one of two songs for the encore. It was a three song encore for an already very long show. How you could complain about that is beyond me.

Crush87
12-14-2006, 04:12 PM
It's not like it replaced a different, better song, or was one of two songs for the encore. It was a three song encore for an already very long show. How you could complain about that is beyond me.

:boohoo
Which is why I said I was pissed at the time, not in retrospect. You know, you dont know the full encore til its over.

Rowsdower
12-14-2006, 04:15 PM
:boohoo
Which is why I said I was pissed at the time, not in retrospect. You know, you dont know the full encore til its over.

So know that you know what the whole setlist was, do you still think it was lame?

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 04:15 PM
linus and lucy :upyours

Fan#41
12-14-2006, 04:17 PM
I had a pretty damn good time at 12/10/05. There were some iffy things, like Doughty on Jimi Thing, Minarets going INTO Dreamgirl(still one of the finest Minarets though), Christmas Song AGAIN in the encore, and the confetti deal which just seemed forced to me, as if they were trying to recreate 2002 all over again.

I thought there was some strong performances, Rapunzel - even with the little mess up, #41 was absoultely gorgeous that night, Halloween was really solid, Seek Up was just flooring, and although it's widely hated I still realyl enjoyed that Smooth Rider, unlike, as was mentioned, the C'ville performance which just dragged on forever.

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 04:59 PM
ive got some great enjoyment out of this show, im on bayou... this may not be the most classic show, which i still agree it isnt, but it was nice to mix up all the 98/2000 shows ive been listening to lately.

GreyStHokie
12-14-2006, 05:02 PM
As dead as C'Ville's Smooth Rider?
that was the most brutal 4000 minutes of a concert ive ever experienced..just freakin terrible

noletorious901
12-14-2006, 05:07 PM
that was the most brutal 4000 minutes of a concert ive ever experienced..just freakin terrible

It was because of the UVa hat wasn't it?

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 05:16 PM
this halloween is in my opinion the best post 98 version of the song.

Gary.
12-14-2006, 05:42 PM
The night before was fucking horrible. My expectations for night 2 were drastically lowered.

Still prefer the '02 run by a loooooooooooongshot.

Strugz10
12-14-2006, 05:57 PM
this halloween is in my opinion the best post 98 version of the song.
In order (post '98):

9.8.02
12.4.00
12.8.00
12.10.02
12.10.05
9.11.05

jdow722
12-14-2006, 06:21 PM
this halloween is in my opinion the best post 98 version of the song.

absolutely

slugmother
12-14-2006, 06:39 PM
that show was awesome

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 07:37 PM
In order (post '98):

9.8.02
12.4.00
12.8.00
12.10.02
12.10.05
9.11.05
no way

12.10.05
9.8.02
12.8.00
12.10.02
12.4.00
9.11.05

cmitch525
12-14-2006, 08:01 PM
no way

12.10.05
9.8.02
12.8.00
12.10.02
12.4.00
9.11.05

I am sorry how is 9.24.03 not on this list. I know the setlist did not have any rarities but, it is one of the best performances quality wise I have heard since 98.

BeQuietAndDrive
12-14-2006, 08:02 PM
I am sorry how is 9.24.03 not on this list. I know the setlist did not have any rarities but, it is one of the best performances quality wise I have heard.

:wtf

cmitch525
12-14-2006, 08:02 PM
this halloween is in my opinion the best post 98 version of the song.

No doubt. and 9.11.05 is easily the worst

cmitch525
12-14-2006, 08:06 PM
:wtf

:wtf :wtf

BeQuietAndDrive
12-14-2006, 08:08 PM
:wtf :wtf

I get what you mean now, but he was ranking the Halloweens, not NYC shows.

FishMonkeyMan
12-14-2006, 08:25 PM
yeah we were talking about halloween, central park was by far the best nyc show in this decade but that is a whole other thread.

cmitch525
12-14-2006, 10:03 PM
oh I feel dumb now I thought you were just ranking post 98 shows.... hangs head ;)

FishMonkeyMan
12-15-2006, 03:05 PM
December 16, 2002
Blue Cross Arena at the War Memorial
Rochester, NY

Don't Drink the Water
One Sweet World
Seek Up
Grey Street
Captain
Too Much
Lie In Our Graves
What Would You Say
Sleep to Dream Her>>
Grace is Gone
Drive in, Drive Out
(Halloween)
Where Are You Going
Watchtower
________________

Little Thing
Gravedigger
Everyday (#36)

Not really sure why I picked this show. It does have probably my favorite post BS version of Captain, and one of the last full versions of Grey Street.

Tomacco
12-15-2006, 03:25 PM
December 16, 2002
Blue Cross Arena at the War Memorial
Rochester, NY

Don't Drink the Water
One Sweet World
Seek Up
Grey Street
Captain
Too Much
Lie In Our Graves
What Would You Say
Sleep to Dream Her>>
Grace is Gone
Drive in, Drive Out
(Halloween)
Where Are You Going
Watchtower
________________

Little Thing
Gravedigger
Everyday (#36)

Not really sure why I picked this show. It does have probably my favorite post BS version of Captain, and one of the last full versions of Grey Street.

It is the last full version of Grey Street. Also, Little Thing was barely even a tease.

This was my first DMB concert, and my first arena rock concert ever. The experience is unparallel to any musical moment of my entire life.

TheNoise
12-15-2006, 03:29 PM
i really really really enjoyed this show last year:

12.15.05
Fleet Center, Boston, MA

Pantala Naga Pampa -->
Rapunzel *
Hunger for the Great Light *
Crash Into Me
Recently *
Everybody Wake Up *
Grey Street *
Seek Up
Pig
American Baby Intro *
Dancing Nancies *
Old Dirt Hill (Bring that Beat Back) *
Louisiana Bayou *
Stand Up (For It) *
Where Are You Going?
Stay *
Encore:
Christmas Song
Ants Marching

* Rashawn Ross on trumpet

rapunzel to open was awesome, that recently is my favorite recently in a long time, seek up was incredible. the 'meh' songs didn't even really have an impact on the feeling of the show because of how awesome everything else was and how it was flowing

bsan83
12-15-2006, 03:31 PM
December 16, 2002
Blue Cross Arena at the War Memorial
Rochester, NY

Don't Drink the Water
One Sweet World
Seek Up
Grey Street
Captain
Too Much
Lie In Our Graves
What Would You Say
Sleep to Dream Her>>
Grace is Gone
Drive in, Drive Out
(Halloween)
Where Are You Going
Watchtower
________________

Little Thing
Gravedigger
Everyday (#36)

Not really sure why I picked this show. It does have probably my favorite post BS version of Captain, and one of the last full versions of Grey Street.

This Seek Up is absolutely fantastic.

FishMonkeyMan
12-15-2006, 03:37 PM
This Seek Up is absolutely fantastic.

i just finished it, and it was definitely oustanding.

FishMonkeyMan
12-15-2006, 03:54 PM
for a post BS version, i do love this captain. its like he was trying to channel 97.

pgr17
12-15-2006, 03:54 PM
i really really really enjoyed this show last year:

12.15.05

i agree... thought this show was fantastic and loved that the mini-winter tour ended in boston. saw two great shows (providence) that tour and loved every minute. i was very happy that Stay ended the set and Ants (which was awesome) ended the show. good stuff :thumbsup

Majew10
12-15-2006, 04:44 PM
i enjoyed the state college show from last yr 12.6.05 the return of minarets and that two step was just nasty with krasno.

setlist:
Pantala Naga Pampa...>
Rapunzel
Crash Into Me (Dixie Chicken)
When The World Ends
Hunger For The Great Light
Seek Up
Grey Street
Minarets (Tomorrow Never Knows)
Dreamgirl
Warehouse
Old Dirt Hill *
Louisiana Bayou *
What Would You Say
Lover Lay Down
Stand Up +*
Two Step *+
Encore:
Christmas Song
Everyday

*Ross
+Krasno

Fan#41
12-15-2006, 06:57 PM
The outro on 12/16/02's Seek Up is simply amazing. The way Carter and Butch come together on that climax is chilling.

slugmother
12-16-2006, 04:09 AM
this reminds me,

'05 minarets is super fantastically awesome

minarets -> dreamgirl is the single biggest live :wtf i am aware of :lol

TheNoise
12-16-2006, 08:34 AM
minarets last winter with butch doing the sitar effects :upyours:upyours

bsan83
12-16-2006, 09:24 AM
for a post BS version, i do love this captain. its like he was trying to channel 97.

The MSG one is similar, with him even tossing in a few of the LWS lines in the verses (How could I be hypnotized...).

FishMonkeyMan
12-16-2006, 02:57 PM
The MSG one is similar, with him even tossing in a few of the LWS lines in the verses (How could I be hypnotized...).

yeah, but with 12-16 its almost more the vocals then the actual lyrics that i like.

FishMonkeyMan
12-18-2006, 03:34 PM
December 17, 2000
First Union Center
Philadelphia, PA

Seek Up
What Would You Say
JTR
Don't Drink the Water
Satellite
The Song that Jane Likes
Rhyme and Reason
True Reflections
#41
Crash Into Me>>
Watchtower
Grey Street
So Much To Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
____________________

(Blue Water)
Christmas Song
Ants Marching

I put this show on as the next to last show in this series before I go home for the holidays for one reason. This is the last show pre-everyday, and i felt that it deserved some attention for that reason alone. you could argue that this is the last show of an era of innocence, for us, before everything went to shit. i really dont see 2000 as being that much different from 2001, so i dont split the music up on this line, but one thing is certain, we were all alot happier as fans of this band before everyday.

cmitch525
12-18-2006, 04:16 PM
Very well said. I actually saw this show on my cd shelf yesterday and thought about listening to it but, I am listening to 12/20 than 12/21/02 instead. this looks like a nice show though

December 17, 2000
First Union Center
Philadelphia, PA

Seek Up
What Would You Say
JTR
Don't Drink the Water
Satellite
The Song that Jane Likes
Rhyme and Reason
True Reflections
#41
Crash Into Me>>
Watchtower
Grey Street
So Much To Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
____________________

(Blue Water)
Christmas Song
Ants Marching

I put this show on as the next to last show in this series before I go home for the holidays for one reason. This is the last show pre-everyday, and i felt that it deserved some attention for that reason alone. you could argue that this is the last show of an era of innocence, for us, before everything went to shit. i really dont see 2000 as being that much different from 2001, so i dont split the music up on this line, but one thing is certain, we were all alot happier as fans of this band before everyday.

bsan83
12-18-2006, 04:21 PM
I'm not sure I ever listened to this show. How is it?

Dave was sick as hell the night before in Providence, and it shows in the show. I think it was under 2hrs long, about 13 songs in the set, most of which were the same as Boston a few nights earlier, and Dave sounds like hell.

FishMonkeyMan
12-18-2006, 04:25 PM
I'm not sure I ever listened to this show. How is it?

Dave was sick as hell the night before in Providence, and it shows in the show. I think it was under 2hrs long, about 13 songs in the set, most of which were the same as Boston a few nights earlier, and Dave sounds like hell.

its way too slow for me, good setlist, but overly mellow, and for some reason this aud that i have cuts off the end of the seek up outro. overall, its a good listen though.

cmitch525
12-18-2006, 04:43 PM
Whats the last december show you are going to listen to?

cmitch525
12-18-2006, 04:44 PM
This is pretty cool actually every month we should have a thread regarding the classic shows of that month. would be tough in the summer months though. too many to choose from

FishMonkeyMan
12-18-2006, 04:45 PM
This is pretty cool actually every month we should have a thread regarding the classic shows of that month. would be tough in the summer months though. too many to choose from

i generally only listen to the current tour during the summer, then take a break, then do winter shows or curent winter tour,then a break, then dave and tim (or dave solo/dave and friends), then do old summer shows in the spring.

FishMonkeyMan
12-18-2006, 04:47 PM
wow i dont know where this show came from, or how i got it, but whoever i got it from actually switched true reflections and 41 and cut the end of seek up to fit it on 2 discs. i would totally want to replace this show if i could.

Crush87
12-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Theres an interview out there that talks about this show, apparently not a good night for the band

bsan83
12-18-2006, 04:55 PM
Theres an interview out there that talks about this show, apparently not a good night for the band

It's in one of the sensational Rolling Stone articles during Everyday promo time, so I take how bad they make the night out to be with a grain of salt.

Crush87
12-18-2006, 04:56 PM
For what it's worth

In the stark cinderblock basement of the First Union Center in Philadelphia, Dave Matthews is not feeling well. He has a fever of 104. His voice is ragged, his eyes bloodshot, his face sagging with exhaustion. Sipping tea with honey, he wanders into the backstage production office. There, despite his grippe, he goes into his standard pre-show psych-- up -- a kind of free-associative, spontaneous comic rap. Studying his ever-narrowing widow's peak in the mirror and rubbing his everexpanding belly, he says, "I don't know, I just don't have that boyband look." He makes a couple of jokes about the state of his bowels ("Things feel ... I don't know. Loose"). He imitates a sputtering German despot, then observes, "I once heard the saying `Germans don't make any mistakes - except the big ones.'" Then he strolls from the room, down a corridor and onto the stage, where a capacity crowd of 10,000 awaits him.
For the next ninety minutes, Matthews and his band produce their uncategorizable and unlikely blend of acoustic guitar, bass, drums, sax and fiddle music -- a sound that has earned comparisons to everything from folk -- based Sixties bands like Fairport Convention to Peter Gabriel to fusion jazz to African world beat to Pearl Jam. Over the past decade, this hybrid sound has made the Dave Matthews Band one of the top touring acts in the country and helped it sell some 20 million records. But tonight, with Matthews growing ever weaker at the mike, the band cuts short its famously long sax and fiddle jams to plow through a set of crowd-pleasers and then quickly quits the stage.

Matthews disappears to lie down. His band mates sit in the dressing room and post-mortem the show. Saxophonist LeRoi Moore, a taciturn, Buddha-shaped man of sometimes terrifying self-containment, makes his feelings known by simply turning his back to the room and seating himself inches from a TV screen, where a football game is in progress. Violinist Boyd Tinsley, whose explosive onstage performance is belied by his offstage shyness and the stammer that edges his speech, drops silently onto a couch, failing to remove his shades. Drummer Carter Beauford, the band's jovial diplomat, is saying that he could see that Dave just wasn't able to take things over the top. "He kept trying," he says, shaking his head, "but every time, the illness would pull him down again." Bassist Stefan Lessard, the band's ashram-reared youngest member at twenty-six, who, as usual, is dressed in the skate-punk garb of an oversized hip-hop sweat shirt and cargo pants, says, "I just hope the fans didn't notice..."

Unfortunately, they did. Later, in the hallway of my hotel near the arena, I encounter a couple of Daveheads who drove up from Virginia in the midst of Christmas exams just to see the show. Knowing nothing of their hero's illness, they wonder why the performance was so lackluster. "In the past I've seen them do weird gospel songs and stuff," says one of the girls. "Tonight, there were no surprises."

In fact, the band did have a surprise up its sleeve, but one that it elected not to reveal until now, with the release of its new album, Everyday. From the opening notes, it's clear this is something different. Rather than hearing the springy acoustic guitar that begins most DMB songs, the listener's ears are assaulted by a truly dirty electric guitar riff. Then comes Dave's voice. Shorn of its Sting-meets-- Vedder-meets-Gabriel earnestness, it brims with a concupiscent swagger: "I did it/Do you think I've gone too far?/I did it/Guilty as charged ."

http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/5938574/the_salvation_of_dave_matthews

Crush87
12-18-2006, 04:58 PM
I'm still looking for a review of the Lillywhite sessions and the time surrounding it. I dont remember if it was RS or not...

bsan83
12-18-2006, 04:59 PM
I remember these articles well. Rolling Stone had a penchant around this time for making things sound like the end was nigh. And maybe they were; how much so, we'll never know. But they did, in retrospect, come off as very sensationalist, and after the second one you kind of just got tired of hearing about the band's troubles and need for group therapy (which made it even more annoying to hear similar lines come out about Stand Up).

spruce
12-18-2006, 05:01 PM
I'm still looking for a review of the Lillywhite sessions and the time surrounding it. I dont remember if it was RS or not...

I think Matt's site, (Recently2Stepping) has what you are looking for, Frank... ?

http://www.dmbshnhaven.net/lws/Main%20Page/The%20Lillywhite%20Sessions.htm

Crush87
12-18-2006, 05:05 PM
I think Matt's site, (Recently2Stepping) has what you are looking for, Frank... ?

http://www.dmbshnhaven.net/lws/Main%20Page/The%20Lillywhite%20Sessions.htm

Thanks Tom, yea not necessarily that site, but one of his links might be the one, I'll have to go through em, some are dead.

spruce
12-18-2006, 05:06 PM
Thanks Tom, yea not necessarily that site, but one of his links might be the one, I'll have to go through em, some are dead.

Cool, yeah, I don't think he's touched that site since like '01...but some of the links may be worth checkin' out.

FishMonkeyMan
12-18-2006, 07:20 PM
this was not a "great show" but i think this so called rolling stone article is exaggerating it as being bad. overly mellow for me, but most winter shows post 98 have been, and it had a solid setlist. i enjoyed listening to it.

bbycrei
12-19-2006, 08:54 AM
December 17, 2000
First Union Center
Philadelphia, PA

Seek Up
What Would You Say
JTR
Don't Drink the Water
Satellite
The Song that Jane Likes
Rhyme and Reason
True Reflections
#41
Crash Into Me>>
Watchtower
Grey Street
So Much To Say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
____________________

(Blue Water)
Christmas Song
Ants Marching

I put this show on as the next to last show in this series before I go home for the holidays for one reason. This is the last show pre-everyday, and i felt that it deserved some attention for that reason alone. you could argue that this is the last show of an era of innocence, for us, before everything went to shit. i really dont see 2000 as being that much different from 2001, so i dont split the music up on this line, but one thing is certain, we were all alot happier as fans of this band before everyday.

One of my favorite winter 00 shows. That show is solid from start to finish and I love that Grey Street. You can also notice the Everyday outro on #41 too. Wish I could have seen that one live.

FishMonkeyMan
12-19-2006, 01:40 PM
Alright this is my final addition of shows to this thread, and it has been fun sparking the occasional interesting discussion. I'm closing this out with two shows. One in which I will be listening to today, and one that I will be listening to on the plane tomorrow as I head back east for the next two weeks.

The first, is one of my personal favorites, and a show that should have been released along with its companion show:

December 7, 1998
Worcester's Centrum Centre
Worcester, MA

Recently$
Crash Into Me$
Don't Drink the Water$
Linus and Lucy>>
Pantala Naga Pampa>>
Rapunzel
Too Much
Dancing Nancies>>
Warehouse
(Christmas Time is Here)
Crush
Rhyme and Reason
Pig
Two Step$
Lie In Our Graves$
_______________
Christmas Song
Halloween

$ with Bela Fleck
Entire set with Tim Reynolds and Butch Taylor

This show stands out for me because of the 2-night stand it is part of. Highlights from this particular show, Halloween encore, Crush with Tim, hell this whole set is one big highlight (except the truncated Recently, I hate the truncated Recently).

I am ending this series with the only official live release that I am giving special attention to:

December 19, 1998
United Center
Chicago, IL

The Last Stop
Don't Drink the Water
#41 $
(#40)
Lie In Our Graves
What Would You Say @
Heartbeat>>
Pantala Naga Pampa>>
Rapunzel
Stay
The Maker %
Crash Into Me
Jimi Thing
So Much to say>>
Anyone Seen the Bridge>>
Too Much
___________
Christmas Song
Watchtower

$ Victor Wooten
@ Maceo Parker
% Victor Wooten and Mitch Rutman
Entire set with Tim Reynolds

This may not have been the best show of the fall 98 tour, but it was the last show to feature Tim Reynolds in its entirety ever. the Maker, is one of the biggest highlights on this show, along with a one of a kind #41 featuring Victor Wooten without the rest of the Flecktones. I'm also a big fan of the Last Stop opener. The official release mix has many flaws to it, and features a fake boyd solo on Lie In Our Graves, but I still felt it was the perfect way to end this run of shows.

Happy Holidays!

bsan83
12-19-2006, 01:52 PM
One of these days, Q and U will be released as a package deal. :upyours

Strugz10
12-19-2006, 02:14 PM
12.19.98's WWYS is fantastic as well.

GreyStHokie
12-19-2006, 02:37 PM
One of these days, Q and U will be released as a package deal. :upyours
yep, one day you'll be able to get Live Trax Vol. 1 - Vol. 38 all together for the low, low price of your first born, payable directly to coran capshaw. and you'll get the 6 DMBLIVETRAX CD cases you'll need to store them all:upyours!

GreyStHokie
12-19-2006, 02:38 PM
It was because of the UVa hat wasn't it?
that actually had very little to do with it. ive never heard a worse performance of any song ever. and i was at 4.21.01.

akleiner34
12-19-2006, 03:01 PM
I think Matt's site, (Recently2Stepping) has what you are looking for, Frank... ?

http://www.dmbshnhaven.net/lws/Main%20Page/The%20Lillywhite%20Sessions.htm

I havent read that stuff in a long time, makes me wonder about the SU sessions.

Fan#41
12-19-2006, 03:16 PM
12.19.98's WWYS is fantastic as well.

Probably the single best performance of the song, next to the 8/19/95 version with Popper.

FishMonkeyMan
12-19-2006, 03:23 PM
Probably the single best performance of the song, next to the 8/19/95 version with Popper.

:upyours

cmitch525
12-19-2006, 03:26 PM
Probably the single best performance of the song, next to the 8/19/95 version with Popper.
could not agree more Leroi kills on this one

FishMonkeyMan
12-19-2006, 03:48 PM
does anyone else have trouble listening to "christmas time is here" without picturing george michael bluth walking past a red dog house. that was the first image that popped into my head when this little tease came up..

FishMonkeyMan
12-19-2006, 05:05 PM
this halloween is really sick

bbycrei
12-19-2006, 06:33 PM
Thanks Tom, yea not necessarily that site, but one of his links might be the one, I'll have to go through em, some are dead.

Just go to archive.org and throw the web address into the wayback machine. I found a great article from some Denver paper in there. Gave me a little insight that I never knew.