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sarge
11-16-2006, 03:06 PM
http://stores.musictoday.com/store/product.asp?band_id=1&dept_id=10468&pf_id=DM89COMBO&sfid=7


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The 1996 Hampton New Year’s show with Dave Matthews Band and Béla Fleck and the Flecktones is considered by fans and crew alike, one of the most incredible jam sessions to date. The set list that evening reflected a nice array of songs from Remember Two Things, Under the Table and Dreaming and Crash. Béla Fleck joined DMB on stage for 9 songs and Béla and the full Flecktones ended up jamming with DMB for 5 songs.

An emotionally charged Seek Up set the mood for the evening at over 14 minutes in length. Improvisations were the theme that evening with old-school-style variations to the Say Goodbye lyrics, an Improv Jam with DMB and Béla and the Flecktones and a Drum Duet between Carter and Future Man! New arrangements for Satellite, Two Step and All Along the Watchtower were also introduced. Treasured songs of the New Year’s Eve concert include Typical Situation and Ants Marching, both showcasing a fantastic performance by DMB and Béla Fleck and the Flecktones.

Click on the product image for the official track listing

Select CD or Digital Download below

Disc 1:
Seek Up
Dancing Nancies >>
Warehouse
Say Goodbye
Satellite
Rhyme and Reason

Disc 2:
Two Step
Crash Into Me
So Much to Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge?
Too Much
Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves
#41
Minarets

Disc 3:
Typical Situation
Improv Jam >>
Carter & Future Man Drum Duet
Ants Marching
All Along the Watchtower

Songs 7, 12, 13 feature Béla Fleck
Song 8 features Béla Fleck and Paul McCandless Jr.
Song 18 features Future Man
Songs 14, 15, 16, 17 and 19 feature Béla Fleck and the Flecktones




Dreaming Tree: http://www.dreamingtree.org/details.php?id=1913

spruce
11-16-2006, 03:12 PM
:banana :banana :rawk :rawk I love all of you! Fuck yes!

Jack
11-16-2006, 03:15 PM
So glad they actually went ahead with this. I feel like dancing.

Fan#41
11-16-2006, 03:20 PM
:jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop :jawdrop

pgr17
11-16-2006, 03:22 PM
the summer '97 LT can't be too far away now...

great to see this finally happening. :upyours

spruce
11-16-2006, 03:24 PM
All items ordered with Live Trax Vol 7 and the 2007 Calendar will be shipped on Friday, December 8, 2006. Your credit card will be charged the day you submit your order. If you selected the Express shipping option, Musictoday guarantees that your order will be delivered on the release date of December 12. We apologize, but express shipping is NOT available for non-U.S. residents. If you select our Standard shipping option, the order will be mailed on or after Friday, December 8th, and depending on the ship-to address, it could take anywhere from 7 -10 business days to arrive. Non-U.S. residents must select international delivery, which will take 3-5 weeks to arrive.

All items ordered with the Live Trax Vol. 7 and 2007 Calendar Pre-Orders will ship after the Pre-Orders close at 3pm on 12/8/6. All Pre-Orders will be automatically entered to win a grand prize of a limited edition Rossignol snowboard, designed and autographed by Stefan Lessard. Five runner-ups will receive a 2007 calendar autographed by Dave Matthews.

bsan83
11-16-2006, 03:26 PM
Told you after Fenway they'd come back with one of these shows. ;)

Great to see. :upyours

bsan83
11-16-2006, 03:28 PM
Was Minarets --> Typical from that show? And if so, I wonder why they split it?

But small details, for sure.

sarge
11-16-2006, 03:30 PM
Was Minarets --> Typical from that show? And if so, I wonder why they split it?

But small details, for sure.
i don't have it that way in itunes and i am a labeling freak. lemme listen

sarge
11-16-2006, 03:32 PM
Was Minarets --> Typical from that show? And if so, I wonder why they split it?

But small details, for sure.
nope

bsan83
11-16-2006, 03:35 PM
Good Good :upyours

alexbunke
11-16-2006, 03:49 PM
In honor of TDC.

dsera
11-16-2006, 04:27 PM
Wow, I'm so ordering this! :banana

raven
11-16-2006, 04:30 PM
Incredible.. I'm glad they announced it so close to the ship date

bsan83
11-16-2006, 05:35 PM
I just realized that's less than a month.

Fucking outstanding. :zaphod

alexbunke
11-16-2006, 06:09 PM
Billiam, your renewed enthusiasm is a sight for sore eyes.

bsan83
11-16-2006, 06:13 PM
You guys should know that I'm about as bipolar a motherfucker as there is. :lol

And really, that Typical, officially released.... :bananahump

Pete
11-16-2006, 06:23 PM
Oh, finally.

Hopefully they stick this one in stores like they reportedly did Fenway, because this show is worthy of the formal treatment. Considering both the significance and quality of the show, this is a no-brainer.

Lugzy
11-16-2006, 06:37 PM
Awesome news :zaphod

dsera
11-16-2006, 06:59 PM
You guys should know that I'm about as bipolar a motherfucker as there is. :lol

And really, that Typical, officially released.... :bananahump
Bill you and me are so on the same page here. :upyours

Marjorie
11-17-2006, 12:04 AM
This is an amazing show- so glad they are releasing it!!!

:)

priceofacoke910
11-17-2006, 12:08 AM
Finishing up Minarets from this show.....what a fuckin' way to ring in the new site!

toms
11-17-2006, 12:12 AM
outstanding selection, nice shirt too

dazdcunfuzd
11-17-2006, 12:13 AM
this is gonna be sweet

sarge
11-17-2006, 12:21 AM
just finished listening all the way through....such a great choice

Disco Stu
11-17-2006, 12:23 AM
Lets not forget how sweet the shirt looks too.

timh.
11-17-2006, 12:23 AM
my first post here. hooray. hooray for this new release, hooray for this new board, hooray for boobies

Penguins66
11-17-2006, 12:23 AM
Already preordered! Should be most excellent.

IrishRed
11-17-2006, 12:27 AM
Already preordered! Should be most excellent.

me too....i assume it will be released mid-Dec, based on the preodrder deadline.

Poth Ead
11-17-2006, 01:22 AM
helllloooooooooooo boys.

12.31.96 in pure digital bliss. I can't wait :upyours

MattHAus
11-17-2006, 01:31 AM
This show needed to be released. I can't wait to hear the soundboard of this Typical

NiCK Crush
11-17-2006, 02:06 AM
well, i really couldnt be much happier about this release.

-NiCK

Wescoast
11-17-2006, 02:10 AM
this is so great.

NiCK Crush
11-17-2006, 02:11 AM
also, i'd like to re-state... i love the Live Trax series.

-NiCK

captainbluntmofo
11-17-2006, 02:12 AM
perfect timing. Wasn't this your favorite show?

greykitkat36
11-17-2006, 02:13 AM
Just realized this board was up and running..looks good. And LT7 is going to be the shit.

Wescoast
11-17-2006, 02:16 AM
also, i'd like to re-state... i love the Live Trax series.

-NiCK

i like the idea behind it, but i think the inconsistencies and execution has been really poor.

NiCK Crush
11-17-2006, 02:18 AM
i like the idea behind it, but i think the inconsistencies and execution has been really poor.

LT1, LT3, LT5, and soon to be LT7 are all damn near perfect shows.

LT2, and LT6 were huge events.

LT4 was... interesting.

Either way, i like the shows theyve been releasing... and it seems as if this could go on for quite sometime.

-NiCK

Wescoast
11-17-2006, 02:28 AM
ya i guess so. i havent heard 5 i dont think, shit, i dont even know what it is?

but the horrible sound on 2, obvious selling out for 6... i dunno. i agree though i hope it continues and i hope they continue to do great shows. the fact that we have 12/8, 8/27 and now soon 12/31 all in sbd is incredible.

greykitkat36
11-17-2006, 02:28 AM
LT1, LT3, LT5, and soon to be LT7 are all damn near perfect shows.

LT2, and LT6 were huge events.

LT4 was... interesting.

Either way, i like the shows theyve been releasing... and it seems as if this could go on for quite sometime.

-NiCK

:upyours

Now we need a 12/7/98 or 12/3/98 or pre-94 release

MattHAus
11-17-2006, 02:36 AM
I'd love a fall 93 show next, preferably one we don't already have a great soundboard of (11/9/93?)

greykitkat36
11-17-2006, 02:40 AM
How many live trax's do you think this band will put out?? 20 or so like Phish? Or more?

julio_havok
11-17-2006, 08:08 AM
me too....i assume it will be released mid-Dec, based on the preodrder deadline.

Since the pre-order ends on Dec. 8, it will probably be released on Dec. 12.

bbycrei
11-17-2006, 08:17 AM
I'm stoked to get it. This should have been the wide release show instead of Fenway.

simbro
11-17-2006, 09:33 AM
gotta preorder mine today. one of my all time favorite shows to listen to

Brer Funk
11-17-2006, 09:46 AM
How many live trax's do you think this band will put out?? 20 or so like Phish? Or more?

Probably as many as they can until they're not turning profits with them.

Taylor
11-17-2006, 09:48 AM
it's been a while since i've been this excited for a Live Trax :upyours

Zamboni Guy
11-17-2006, 09:57 AM
Is it just me who thinks the odd LT's are so much better than the even ones? LT1, 3, and 5 are my favorite releases from the band. And now from what I'm reading about the concert, LT7 will be joining that list (assuming the mix is decent).

burstandbloom
11-17-2006, 10:02 AM
I swear i thought tim was at this show too. I didnt catch a mention of him

Minarets
11-17-2006, 11:06 AM
i havent heard one thing from this show...i am excited to see everyone excited for it though....when does it come out?

my first show was 12-31-04

shadowraven
11-17-2006, 12:01 PM
so will this shut everyone up now? or is 6.8.97 the new 12.31.96?

:lol

Babbit
11-17-2006, 12:17 PM
12/7/98

Complete one of the best 2-night stands in history. DO IT!!! So, for me, 12/7/98 is the new 12/31/96...actually 12/7/98 has always been my first choice...

raven
11-17-2006, 12:26 PM
I swear i thought tim was at this show too. I didnt catch a mention of him
no he wasn't

raven
11-17-2006, 12:27 PM
so will this shut everyone up now? or is 6.8.97 the new 12.31.96?

:loli'll always be an advocate for 6.8.97 because it was my first show and it's probably the show i listen to the most. that run of songs from LIOG through #41 is incredible. i don't think there's much of a chance it will be released any time soon now that 12.31.96 is being released though.

raven
11-17-2006, 12:28 PM
i havent heard one thing from this show...i am excited to see everyone excited for it though....when does it come out?

my first show was 12-31-04Comes out 12.12.06. So you were one of the rare few who saw Get in Line.. and the last performance of it too. Do you remember the show at all?

Gary.
11-17-2006, 12:31 PM
for all of the flak that the fenway release gets, it does have its moments.

shadowraven
11-17-2006, 12:43 PM
i'll always be an advocate for 6.8.97 because it was my first show and it's probably the show i listen to the most. that run of songs from LIOG through #41 is incredible. i don't think there's much of a chance it will be released any time soon now that 12.31.96 is being released though.


well, there hasn't been a 1997 release, and that's the only year post-94 that hasn't, so it's possible.

greppson
11-17-2006, 01:23 PM
it is at dreaming tree, but i've uploaded it as well for anyone that wants it:

http://www.greppson.net/shared/dmb1996-12-31.shnf/

sarge
11-17-2006, 01:24 PM
it is at dreaming tree, but i've uploaded it as well for anyone that wants it:

http://www.greppson.net/shared/dmb1996-12-31.shnf/:rawk

nogerorob
11-17-2006, 01:25 PM
it is at dreaming tree, but i've uploaded it as well for anyone that wants it:

http://www.greppson.net/shared/dmb1996-12-31.shnf/

Thanks.

OceanSoGood
11-17-2006, 01:33 PM
i figure there are at least 10 shows out there still that this board would really appreciate, 12.31.96 being one of them

:upyours to buying it

DMB1541
11-17-2006, 01:51 PM
Just pre-ordered mine. I really like the shirt design.

The best part is we only have to wait like 3 weeks and then it ships.

dreamingtree
11-17-2006, 01:56 PM
Just pre-ordered as well. I can't wait until it gets here...

borat
11-17-2006, 02:07 PM
As an extremely hardcore fan of the Dave Matthews Band, I can't even
begin to express how thrilled I am with the choice of the latest Live
Trax installment. The 12/31/96 show is certainly one of the band's
finest moments, and it's wonderful that fans will now be able to get
their hands on this stand out performance. However, there's one thing that I don't get...

Here's how the setlist of the concert played out that evening:

Seek Up
Dancing Nancies >>
Warehouse
Say Goodbye
Satellite
Rhyme and Reason
Two Step
Crash Into Me
So Much to Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? >>
Too Much

---------SET BREAK-----------

Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves
#41 >>
Minarets
Typical Situation
Improv Jam >>
Carter & Future Man Drum Duet
Ants Marching

--------ENCORE---------

All Along the Watchtower


I'm wondering why this release is going to be a 3-Disc
set, rather than a 2-Disc set. According to the official DMBand.com
announcement, the tracklisting is split up among 3 discs. Based on
the tracklisting in the announcement, each disc will clock in at the
following time lengths:

DISC 1 - 51:59
DISC 2 - 1:04:29
DISC 3 - 36:25
Total concert length - 2:32:53

I used the dmbalmanac.com website to do the math and they should have
no problems making this release a 2-Disc set, and this way each set of
the show fits perfectly on its own disc. CDs can hold 80 minutes of
music...therefore, why not simply release the show in the same way
that it was played:

DISC 1 (first full set) - 77:54

Seek Up
Dancing Nancies >>
Warehouse
Say Goodbye
Satellite
Rhyme and Reason
Two Step
Crash Into Me
So Much to Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? >>
Too Much

DISC 2 (second full set) - 74:59

Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves
#41 >>
Minarets
Typical Situation
Improv Jam >>
Carter & Future Man Drum Duet
Ants Marching
All Along the Watchtower

Total disc length - 2:32:53


Now, my times don't account for the length of time between each
song...but even still, the "in between song pauses" are always
shortened for live releases, and there's still more than enough wiggle
room to get around that issue. Therefore, why are fans being asked to
pay for a 3-Disc live release when the concert can easily (and more
logically) fit on 2 Discs?

Jack
11-17-2006, 02:12 PM
i figure there are at least 10 shows out there still that this board would really appreciate, 12.31.96 being one of them

I think most of us could get behind these:

08-19-93
02-14-95
02-15-95
09-24-95
10-03-96
10-04-96
12-16-96
02-01-97
02-21-97
06-08-97
06-10-97
12-07-98
01-19-99
07-19-00
12-22-03

raven
11-17-2006, 02:12 PM
I wonder if they took the track names from the almanac..

Improv Jam >>
Carter & Future Man Drum Duet

raven
11-17-2006, 02:17 PM
I think most of us could get behind these:

08-19-93
02-14-95
02-15-95
09-24-95
10-03-96
10-04-96
12-16-96
02-01-97
02-21-97
06-08-97
06-10-97
12-07-98
01-19-99
07-19-00
12-22-03i agree with some of those.. i think my list would be

08-19-93
11-09-93
02-14-95
02-15-95
09-24-95
02-17-96
02-19-96
06-11-96
06-08-97
12-03-98
12-07-98
07-09-00
07-26-02
12-17-03

lude
11-17-2006, 02:18 PM
Honesly my first choice for a LT.
Below is a list of the songs I'll skip on the CD:

Crush87
11-17-2006, 02:18 PM
11/9/93 would be the most perfect '93 release :upyours :upyours

Terrible aud that doesnt circulate well. Historic day for the band, early performances of songs, distinct set, one of the more energetic shows i've ever heard

raven
11-17-2006, 02:20 PM
11/9/93 would be the most perfect '93 release :upyours :upyours

Terrible aud that doesnt circulate well. Historic day for the band, early performances of songs, distinct set, one of the more energetic shows i've ever heard:upyours:upyours definitely.. i wonder if that show was taped by the band

lude
11-17-2006, 02:23 PM
Just pre-ordered mine. I really like the shirt design.

The best part is we only have to wait like 3 weeks and then it ships.I'm still waiting for BOWA:boohoo

italy8384
11-17-2006, 02:33 PM
I doubt we will ever get a dave and friends livetrax, and now I'm slowly thinking the same about dave and tim. I mean if they could do a dave and tim set, why wouldn't they have released one by now?

jsandr
11-17-2006, 02:42 PM
wow, this should be outstanding. we'll have to see how the sound quality stacks up to LT3, but this most likely will be the best to date.

Wescoast
11-17-2006, 02:43 PM
As an extremely hardcore fan of the Dave Matthews Band, I can't even
begin to express how thrilled I am with the choice of the latest Live
Trax installment. The 12/31/96 show is certainly one of the band's
finest moments, and it's wonderful that fans will now be able to get
their hands on this stand out performance. However, there's one thing that I don't get...

Here's how the setlist of the concert played out that evening:

Seek Up
Dancing Nancies >>
Warehouse
Say Goodbye
Satellite
Rhyme and Reason
Two Step
Crash Into Me
So Much to Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? >>
Too Much

---------SET BREAK-----------

Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves
#41 >>
Minarets
Typical Situation
Improv Jam >>
Carter & Future Man Drum Duet
Ants Marching

--------ENCORE---------

All Along the Watchtower


I'm wondering why this release is going to be a 3-Disc
set, rather than a 2-Disc set. According to the official DMBand.com
announcement, the tracklisting is split up among 3 discs. Based on
the tracklisting in the announcement, each disc will clock in at the
following time lengths:

DISC 1 - 51:59
DISC 2 - 1:04:29
DISC 3 - 36:25
Total concert length - 2:32:53

I used the dmbalmanac.com website to do the math and they should have
no problems making this release a 2-Disc set, and this way each set of
the show fits perfectly on its own disc. CDs can hold 80 minutes of
music...therefore, why not simply release the show in the same way
that it was played:

DISC 1 (first full set) - 77:54

Seek Up
Dancing Nancies >>
Warehouse
Say Goodbye
Satellite
Rhyme and Reason
Two Step
Crash Into Me
So Much to Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? >>
Too Much

DISC 2 (second full set) - 74:59

Tripping Billies
Lie In Our Graves
#41 >>
Minarets
Typical Situation
Improv Jam >>
Carter & Future Man Drum Duet
Ants Marching
All Along the Watchtower

Total disc length - 2:32:53


Now, my times don't account for the length of time between each
song...but even still, the "in between song pauses" are always
shortened for live releases, and there's still more than enough wiggle
room to get around that issue. Therefore, why are fans being asked to
pay for a 3-Disc live release when the concert can easily (and more
logically) fit on 2 Discs?

interesting. if this is the case then i may just download it and burn it on 2 discs. id rather hear it as 2 complete sets than broken up. unless they are doing filler tracks.

borat
11-17-2006, 02:56 PM
another thing i don't understand with their tracklisting is why they seperated the discs the way they did. i'm not a fan of 3-disc releases, mainly because one disc always gets cheated. in this case, Disc 3 is hardly over 30 minutes. why not take #41 and Minarets from Disc 2 and put them on Disc 3? at least that would make the discs more even in length

Minarets
11-17-2006, 03:14 PM
Comes out 12.12.06. So you were one of the rare few who saw Get in Line.. and the last performance of it too. Do you remember the show at all?


i do remeber the show...it was my first concert, period. i was 14. it was pretty amazing. Get in line was good couldnt understand a thing he said. then when i got the cassette i still couldnt. i still have it on cassette, but not cd. i am actually looking for this show on cd. i remember Dave throwing out cigars at midnight. #36 was my favorite song of the night.

raven
11-17-2006, 03:46 PM
i do remeber the show...it was my first concert, period. i was 14. it was pretty amazing. Get in line was good couldnt understand a thing he said. then when i got the cassette i still couldnt. i still have it on cassette, but not cd. i am actually looking for this show on cd. i remember Dave throwing out cigars at midnight. #36 was my favorite song of the night.
Nice.. that's very cool.

Here's the shns: http://www.dreamingtree.org/details.php?id=306

I can jump on and help seed when I get home. If you can't do torrents let me know and I'll either upload the show for you or send it to you on disc.

Disco Stu
11-17-2006, 04:12 PM
Therefore, why are fans being asked to
pay for a 3-Disc live release when the concert can easily (and more
logically) fit on 2 Discs?

18.99 is the price of 2 disc concerts usually
the reason they do 3-Disc's is because some morons will think "3 discs!11! it must be like central pakr!"

Crush87
11-17-2006, 05:08 PM
i do remeber the show...it was my first concert, period. i was 14. it was pretty amazing. Get in line was good couldnt understand a thing he said. then when i got the cassette i still couldnt. i still have it on cassette, but not cd. i am actually looking for this show on cd. i remember Dave throwing out cigars at midnight. #36 was my favorite song of the night.

that's fucking awsome :upyours

CRUSHsoccer15
11-17-2006, 05:13 PM
This release is going to be awesome.

About damn time too.

Bartender
11-17-2006, 05:18 PM
Great news, and the shirt is very cool. Their best shirt yet. Only a few weeks away. I can't wait for Typical.

sarge
11-17-2006, 07:57 PM
I can't wait for Typical.:upyours

borat
11-17-2006, 07:59 PM
18.99 is the price of 2 disc concerts usually
the reason they do 3-Disc's is because some morons will think "3 discs!11! it must be like central pakr!"

well that really sucks. i'd much rather have two FULL discs instead of 3 partially filled discs. plus - each set would get its own disc...it just makes too much sense to release it as 2 discs. dammit!

i assume the AUD copies of this show are 3 discs, correct?

Brer Funk
11-17-2006, 08:08 PM
i assume the AUD copies of this show are 3 discs, correct?

Yeah

JimBeam41
11-17-2006, 09:20 PM
This will be the 1st time i bought a Live Trax since the 1st one. Cant wait to hear how it sounds after being fixed up.

Anybody think there gonna edit some of the Dave speak since they said before they wouldnt release this show cause Dave was a lil wacked out.

priceofacoke910
11-17-2006, 09:21 PM
Man, I really am fuckin' excited for this release!

I may go put money in the bank tomorrow and go ahead and pre-order.

priceofacoke910
11-17-2006, 09:22 PM
This will be the 1st time i bought a Live Trax since the 1st one. Cant wait to hear how it sounds after being fixed up.

Anybody think there gonna edit some of the Dave speak since they said before they wouldnt release this show cause Dave was a lil wacked out.

I hadn't heard that...when was that said?

snyddogg430
11-17-2006, 11:00 PM
First LT that I've been excited for since Vol. 1. I'm going to wait until Christmas to get it...should be a nice little treat.

JWood
11-17-2006, 11:20 PM
I pre-ordered last night, really looking forward to this!

borat
11-18-2006, 02:38 AM
wow - i'm a bit surprised that nobody appears to be very bothered about the 3-disc thing. ah well.

slugmother
11-18-2006, 03:36 AM
wow - i'm a bit surprised that nobody appears to be very bothered about the 3-disc thing. ah well.

well, it is annoying, but since i listen to music on the computer or on the ipod 99% of the time it doesn't really make a difference.

borat
11-18-2006, 05:15 AM
well, it is annoying, but since i listen to music on the computer or on the ipod 99% of the time it doesn't really make a difference.

that's true. it'll just be weird to have that "end of disc fade out" happen in the middle of the set if you're listening to the mp3s.

still - this Live Trax is a good thing...i should be celebrating

ethaxton
11-18-2006, 07:20 AM
i hope the next one is an 04 show. especially one with GGT on the set. loved to here a released mix of those songs.

Yeah, I am hoping it's an '04 or June 97.

Pre-ordered three copies of this last night :banana

captainbluntmofo
11-18-2006, 07:38 AM
yes

ThememanXX
11-18-2006, 07:54 AM
Hershey 04 would be cool:

Warehouse
One Sweet World
Song That Jane Likes https://whsec1.davematthewsband.com/images/setlists/arrowintosong.gif
Sugar Will
The Stone
The Space Between
Lie In Our Graves
Hello Again
Rhyme & Reason https://whsec1.davematthewsband.com/images/setlists/arrowintosong.gif
Good Good Time
Grey Street
What Would You Say
Interlude https://whsec1.davematthewsband.com/images/setlists/arrowintosong.gif
Crazy Easy
When The World Ends
Jimi Thing
Where Are You Going
Joy Ride
Pantala Naga Pampa https://whsec1.davematthewsband.com/images/setlists/arrowintosong.gif
Rapunzel
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Ants Marching

Mersh
11-18-2006, 07:54 AM
wow - i'm a bit surprised that nobody appears to be very bothered about the 3-disc thing. ah well.

We are getting a pro-mixed DSBD release of one of their very best shows. The 3 disc thing is a very minor and insignificant detail.

bsan83
11-18-2006, 08:11 AM
wow - i'm a bit surprised that nobody appears to be very bothered about the 3-disc thing. ah well.

Because we're not that curmudgeony.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 08:12 AM
Because we're not that curmudgeony.

this is the type of release about which I don't think I can entertain any complaints.

zhess88
11-18-2006, 12:29 PM
Ah! Very cool.

ethaxton
11-18-2006, 01:19 PM
Because we're not that curmudgeony.

That's got to be word of the day right there.

dmb2much40
11-18-2006, 01:49 PM
I think most of us could get behind these:


09-24-95
02-01-97
02-21-97
01-19-99


we really do need another d&t, hopefully '97 or '99.

Poth Ead
11-18-2006, 02:08 PM
I can't wait for Typical.


:upyours :upyours :upyours

iudmbfan40
11-18-2006, 02:08 PM
i can't wait for this to come out.

borat
11-18-2006, 02:45 PM
this is the type of release about which I don't think I can entertain any complaints.

yeah, i know. but for me, it take the release down a notch from "perfect" to "really good." that kind of stuff really bothers me.

Gary.
11-18-2006, 02:59 PM
i dont see why 3 discs should piss you off so much.

Popeye2003
11-18-2006, 03:11 PM
I'm so buying this shit.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 03:17 PM
yeah, i know. but for me, it take the release down a notch from "perfect" to "really good." that kind of stuff really bothers me.

yeah, but you clearly have a mental issue.

Popeye2003
11-18-2006, 03:18 PM
yeah, i know. but for me, it take the release down a notch from "perfect" to "really good." that kind of stuff really bothers me.
:nutkick

:D

bsan83
11-18-2006, 03:48 PM
It may be a new board, but s2mike continues to bring the suck.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 03:49 PM
there is totally a raven on the cover!

bsan83
11-18-2006, 03:50 PM
there is totally a raven on the cover!

The Cult of the Raven has taken over the Live Trax series.

Disco Stu
11-18-2006, 03:54 PM
that's weird

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:09 PM
I know Coffin joined when Left of Cool was made I believe, was McCandless a regular before that? I never thought to ask. I should know this...

celluloid hero
11-18-2006, 04:15 PM
yeah, i know. but for me, it take the release down a notch from "perfect" to "really good." that kind of stuff really bothers me.

Dude you have the exact time of songs at 77:54. There will be a minute + of space between tracks and before Seek Up. That's 79, plus any Davespeak, of which there was some, and introductions of guests and you're pushing close to 80 mins. Companies never want to push it that close, because it gets inconsistant exactly how many seconds short or over every disc goes. Poor attempt at trolling.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 04:35 PM
Dude you have the exact time of songs at 77:54. There will be a minute + of space between tracks and before Seek Up. That's 79, plus any Davespeak, of which there was some, and introductions of guests and you're pushing close to 80 mins. Companies never want to push it that close, because it gets inconsistant exactly how many seconds short or over every disc goes. Poor attempt at trolling.

I don't think they will leave 1 minute + between tracks (edit: unless you mean total), but I agree that this is silly. In all fairness though he isn't trolling, he is just nuts.

celluloid hero
11-18-2006, 04:38 PM
I don't think they will leave 1 minute + between tracks (edit: unless you mean total), but I agree that this is silly. In all fairness though he isn't trolling, he is just nuts.

I did mean total.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 04:39 PM
I did mean total.

alright, he is still just insane about this crap though. Ask him about digipacks

borat
11-18-2006, 04:40 PM
Dude you have the exact time of songs at 77:54. There will be a minute + of space between tracks and before Seek Up. That's 79, plus any Davespeak, of which there was some, and introductions of guests and you're pushing close to 80 mins. Companies never want to push it that close, because it gets inconsistant exactly how many seconds short or over every disc goes. Poor attempt at trolling.

they don't leave all of the "in between song pauses" in on any live release. they edit the space out so that there are only a few seconds of crowd noise between songs. so, with 78 minutes of actual song time, an extra 2 minutes is more than what they'd need to keep "in between song pause" time to a minimum, as well as keep in some Davespeak

i know i'm crazy - but it just sucks to have a disc with only 30 minutes of music on it.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 04:42 PM
It would be nice if they added filler like they used to do on LivePhish releases, but I really don't care. This is a great release.

borat
11-18-2006, 04:43 PM
filler? oh god no. why would you want songs that weren't from the concert you're buying? i honestly can't believe that LivePhish does that.

celluloid hero
11-18-2006, 04:45 PM
they don't leave all of the "in between song pauses" in on any live release. they edit the space out so that there are only a few seconds of crowd noise between songs. so, with 78 minutes of actual song time, an extra 2 minutes is more than what they'd need to keep "in between song pause" time to a minimum, as well as keep in some Davespeak

i know i'm crazy - but it just sucks to have a disc with only 30 minutes of music on it.

5 seconds between tracks at least to make it feel like a real concert, 10 before the show starts, and at least 30 seconds for guest intros and you're pushing over 79:30. No way they put out a disc like that. Central Park disc 1 is under 40. The fact that it reduces the release from awesome to pretty good is retarded.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 04:45 PM
filler? oh god no. why would you want songs that weren't from the concert you're buying? i honestly can't believe that LivePhish does that.

because they often put together a nice run of songs or a special/notable performance...now you're just being an idiot.

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:47 PM
filler? oh god no. why would you want songs that weren't from the concert you're buying? i honestly can't believe that LivePhish does that.

there are tons of great performances out there from shows that don't necessarily deserve releases. Fillers are wonderful.

borat
11-18-2006, 04:47 PM
fine - i'll stop. i can see that i'm clearly the outcast on this argument.

i'm extremely, extremely anal about CD packaging...what can i say? i already emailed RedLight about it

i would never buy a live release with filler...never

Mersh
11-18-2006, 04:48 PM
i already emailed RedLight about it



christ

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:49 PM
fine - i'll stop. i can see that i'm clearly the outcast on this argument.

i'm extremely, extremely anal about CD packaging...what can i say? i already emailed RedLight about it

i would never buy a live release with filler...never

The only e-mails they should get should be praising the release. That way they know Live Trax should be reserved for archival releases. Not e-mails that make them question why they should or should not make the right choices concerning the hardcore fanbase

bsan83
11-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Please, for the sake of the rest of us, never email Red Light again.

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:50 PM
Now, can someone please answer my question about McCandless, instead of all this bullshit

borat
11-18-2006, 04:50 PM
The only e-mails they should get should be praising the release. That way they know Live Trax should be reserved for archival releases. Not e-mails that make them question why they should or should not make the right choices concerning the hardcore fanbase

well, i definitely told them how excited i was about the release and what a great choice it was. i just broke it down for them, did the math, and asked them why they went with 3 discs instead of 2

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:51 PM
well, i definitely told them how excited i was about the release and what a great choice it was. i just broke it down for them, did the math, and asked them why they went with 3 discs instead of 2

You need to learn to pick your battles

Mersh
11-18-2006, 04:51 PM
They should have put it on 1 DVD

borat
11-18-2006, 04:52 PM
5 seconds between tracks at least to make it feel like a real concert, 10 before the show starts, and at least 30 seconds for guest intros and you're pushing over 79:30. No way they put out a disc like that. Central Park disc 1 is under 40.

hmm...good call. ok, i'm going to accept the fact that it wasn't possible to get the entire first set on its own disc, and that'll allow me to enjoy the show as a 3-disc release. sweet...i'm excited now.

bsan83
11-18-2006, 04:52 PM
I'm absolutely indignant that it's not being released on vinyl. I think I'm going to write Red Light a manifesto about it.

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Manifesto :lol

BeQuietAndDrive
11-18-2006, 04:53 PM
Now, can someone please answer my question about McCandless, instead of all this bullshit

I think he was kind of a perma-guest, like Rashawn or Butch.

Crush87
11-18-2006, 04:55 PM
I think he was kind of a perma-guest, like Rashawn or Butch.

Thanks. So I'm guessing it was Bela, Wooten Brothers, and their old keyboardist, and from time to time McCandless would guest until Coffin joined?

bsan83
11-18-2006, 04:56 PM
I really enjoy McCandless' tone, a lot more than Coffin.

borat
11-18-2006, 04:58 PM
ah, they started Disc 2 with Two Step because that's where you get the introduction of Bela Fleck...that makes sense.

still, i wonder why they didn't put #41 and Minarets on Disc 3. interesting.

bigtrain21
11-18-2006, 05:22 PM
I am really looking forward to this release... This is going to be sweet!

:upyours

Wescoast
11-18-2006, 05:28 PM
filler? oh god no. why would you want songs that weren't from the concert you're buying? i honestly can't believe that LivePhish does that.

:lol what?

kylebond13
11-18-2006, 05:41 PM
can someone up Typical? always have wanted to hear it. thanks!

Crush87
11-18-2006, 05:44 PM
I've had this show for probably about 6 years now, and I've avoided listening to it ever since LT was announced so it'd be fresh for me if it ever got released, so getting this will definately be all the more sweeter.

alexbunke
11-18-2006, 05:51 PM
I've had this show for probably about 6 years now, and I've avoided listening to it ever since LT was announced so it'd be fresh for me if it ever got released, so getting this will definately be all the more sweeter.It will be so fresh for me, as I have never listened to the show.

Wescoast
11-18-2006, 05:52 PM
ya ive only heard the crash

Crush87
11-18-2006, 05:55 PM
It will be so fresh for me, as I have never listened to the show.

:eek


Youre in for a fucking treat, bunke.

Crush87
11-18-2006, 05:56 PM
So the almanac doesnt have this mentioned, but I believe this was the last two set show? I also remember reading at some point that the Watchtower was the first with an intro from Stefan

bsan83
11-18-2006, 05:59 PM
So the almanac doesnt havent this mentioned, but I believe this was the last two set show? I also remember reading at some point that the Watchtower was the first with an intro from Stefan

They mention in the email that this show debuted "a new arrangement for Watchtower."

Crush87
11-18-2006, 06:00 PM
They mention in the email that this show debuted "a new arrangement for Watchtower."

Oh, well there you go. Thanks

Mersh
11-18-2006, 06:35 PM
I am surprised to see that quite a few people have never heard this show.

FERRALL
11-18-2006, 06:36 PM
definately asking for this for christmas

DMB1541
11-18-2006, 06:42 PM
They mention in the email that this show debuted "a new arrangement for Watchtower."

Besides the bass intro, correct me if I'm wrong here, the other different part was the jam in the middle, it used to be like Red Rocks, but then Dave started playing the chords he does now, changing the structure of the middle-end.

I hope that makes sense...

bsan83
11-18-2006, 06:48 PM
I am surprised to see that quite a few people have never heard this show.

A lot of people are in for a great treat then. :upyours

Mersh
11-18-2006, 07:00 PM
A lot of people are in for a great treat then. :upyours

Indeed, still surprised me though as this show is talked about quite a bit.

borat
11-18-2006, 08:11 PM
i've never heard it either

slugmother
11-18-2006, 08:35 PM
i've never heard it either

...so you've been bitching about how 3 instead of 2 discs takes it from a perfect to a pretty good release, and you've never even HEARD the damn thing?

Crush87
11-18-2006, 08:36 PM
As Mersh said, I'm definately surprised that people havent heard this one. A must have when you start trading.

JWood
11-18-2006, 08:46 PM
I can't believe people are already talking about #8, let's be happy they're doing one we really want, worry about the other ones later.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 09:13 PM
I can't believe people are already talking about #8, let's be happy they're doing one we really want, worry about the other ones later.

I don't think anyone was bitching man, just talking.

Smokey the Bear
11-18-2006, 09:24 PM
I purposely haven't listened to this show in about a year on the offchance they released it

alexbunke
11-18-2006, 09:26 PM
I should ask for this for Christmas, but I won't because I can just d/l it a half a month before Santa comes!

spruce
11-18-2006, 09:28 PM
I purposely haven't listened to this show in about a year on the offchance they released it

haha, another person that does that..nice

JWood
11-18-2006, 09:38 PM
I don't think anyone was bitching man, just talking.

Actually, if you read my post correctly, I said I can't believe people are talking about #8, therefore rendering your post unnecessary.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 10:03 PM
Actually, if you read my post correctly, I said I can't believe people are talking about #8, therefore rendering your post unnecessary.

Oh, I didn't mean that you were saying people were bitching. I was just saying that people were just talking...speculating...that sort of thing as opposed to bitching. Like at least people aren't bitching...take it easy man.

borat
11-18-2006, 10:32 PM
...so you've been bitching about how 3 instead of 2 discs takes it from a perfect to a pretty good release, and you've never even HEARD the damn thing?

nope.

why does it matter - it could be the worst show ever and i'd still be pissed that it's 3 discs. everyone says this show is great, and i have no reason to think it's not. still...even if it's the most perfect thing the band has ever performed, the 3-disc thing still keeps it from perfection in my book

DMBCLSTJ
11-18-2006, 10:34 PM
nope.

why does it matter - it could be the worst show ever and i'd still be pissed that it's 3 discs. everyone says this show is great, and i have no reason to think it's not. still...even if it's the most perfect thing the band has ever performed, the 3-disc thing still keeps it from perfection in my book

Ha Ha, your joke, stop

bigtrain21
11-18-2006, 10:37 PM
nope.

why does it matter - it could be the worst show ever and i'd still be pissed that it's 3 discs. everyone says this show is great, and i have no reason to think it's not. still...even if it's the most perfect thing the band has ever performed, the 3-disc thing still keeps it from perfection in my book

Don't worry, one day they will have technology where you can take a 3 disc show and make it a 2 disc show using your computer.

alexbunke
11-18-2006, 10:42 PM
Don't worry, one day they will have technology where you can take a 3 disc show and make it a 2 disc show using your computer.WOW I can't wait for THAT day.

Mersh
11-18-2006, 11:06 PM
nope.

why does it matter - it could be the worst show ever and i'd still be pissed that it's 3 discs. everyone says this show is great, and i have no reason to think it's not. still...even if it's the most perfect thing the band has ever performed, the 3-disc thing still keeps it from perfection in my book

how long will this last over here?

nolan8or
11-18-2006, 11:25 PM
just preordered it....can't wait for it to get here

wildcats
11-18-2006, 11:42 PM
holy shit yes

groove merchant
11-18-2006, 11:48 PM
whats this 3 disk thing about?

JWood
11-19-2006, 12:42 AM
Oh, I didn't mean that you were saying people were bitching. I was just saying that people were just talking...speculating...that sort of thing as opposed to bitching. Like at least people aren't bitching...take it easy man.

Gotcha, well I'm all for the Live Trax Vol. 8 talk after we get this one and have listened to it, but as of right now, I'm just ecstatic that DMB picked this one, we get it in less than a month (as opposed to pre-ordering 3 months in advance for previous ones).

But if we're gonna start talking about 8 now, i'm down for a 2004 show with Crazy-Easy and Good Good Time, I'd totally go for the 7.10.04, especially after that cock tease of Rhyme & Reason being on the Warehouse disc. I'd love to get an SBD of that Improv Jam without those douchebags singing "Hani Hani" in the background, or "Honey Honey".

celluloid hero
11-19-2006, 01:03 AM
nope.

why does it matter - it could be the worst show ever and i'd still be pissed that it's 3 discs. everyone says this show is great, and i have no reason to think it's not. still...even if it's the most perfect thing the band has ever performed, the 3-disc thing still keeps it from perfection in my book

you already admitted you were being crazy after you were shown facts. Youre sticking with the schtick anyway?

greykitkat36
11-19-2006, 01:04 AM
Gotcha, well I'm all for the Live Trax Vol. 8 talk after we get this one and have listened to it, but as of right now, I'm just ecstatic that DMB picked this one, we get it in less than a month (as opposed to pre-ordering 3 months in advance for previous ones).

But if we're gonna start talking about 8 now, i'm down for a 2004 show with Crazy-Easy and Good Good Time, I'd totally go for the 7.10.04, especially after that cock tease of Rhyme & Reason being on the Warehouse disc. I'd love to get an SBD of that Improv Jam without those douchebags singing "Hani Hani" in the background, or "Honey Honey".

Not a bad choice at all..I like 07.10.04...Although I think I'll rest my case and say that 12/3/98 should be #8.

DMB1541
11-19-2006, 01:32 AM
If we are talking about Vol. 8 having Crazy-Easy and GGT, I would be thrilled with 7.31.2004. That show from start to finish was spectacular. ASTB opener, and Warehouse encore closer. There are many others that need to be released before it, but if we are wanting something for those 2 songs alone, this one needs some consideration.

JWood
11-19-2006, 01:42 AM
If we are talking about Vol. 8 having Crazy-Easy and GGT, I would be thrilled with 7.31.2004. That show from start to finish was spectacular. ASTB opener, and Warehouse encore closer. There are many others that need to be released before it, but if we are wanting something for those 2 songs alone, this one needs some consideration.

See for me, I don't really like Crazy-Easy or Good Good Time for that.

The only shows that I could see for both a good Crazy-Easy & Good Good Time would be:

6.18.04
6.27.04
7.2.04
7.10.04
7.13.04

DMB1541
11-19-2006, 02:02 AM
See for me, I don't really like Crazy-Easy or Good Good Time for that.

The only shows that I could see for both a good Crazy-Easy & Good Good Time would be:

6.18.04
6.27.04
7.2.04
7.10.04
7.13.04

Now, are you talking about the best versions of those particular songs? Cause what I was thinking was a show that happened to have those 2 songs, maybe not their particular best versions, but a really good show that could be listened to as a whole, that happens to have decent versions of those songs we are missing SDBs of.

jaking1185
11-19-2006, 04:00 AM
I'd like to see SBD's of Crazy Easy and GGT as well. I am not really sure about the performance of Crazy Easy on 07-10-04, but the GGT from that date is my favorite.

MJA3488
11-19-2006, 04:07 AM
ive been listening to this show for years....really cant wait to get my hands on a sbd copy

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 09:26 AM
If we are talking about Vol. 8 having Crazy-Easy and GGT, I would be thrilled with 7.31.2004. That show from start to finish was spectacular. ASTB opener, and Warehouse encore closer. There are many others that need to be released before it, but if we are wanting something for those 2 songs alone, this one needs some consideration.

The whole WPB '04 weekend was spectacular from start to finish, but 7.31.04 is lacking Sugar Will and I'd prefer a release that encompassed all the '04 tunes. Having said that, I would have no problem with them releasing it since I was there.

priceofacoke910
11-19-2006, 10:57 AM
The whole WPB '04 weekend was spectacular from start to finish, but 7.31.04 is lacking Sugar Will and I'd prefer a release that encompassed all the '04 tunes. Having said that, I would have no problem with them releasing it since I was there.
Then I would say 7.27.04 to encompass all of them. That show has very top notch versions and one heck of a setlist. The encore is GGT, DDTW, and Too Much reprise.

BTW, I pre-ordered LT7....so excited for this one.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 12:09 PM
Then I would say 7.27.04 to encompass all of them. That show has very top notch versions and one heck of a setlist. The encore is GGT, DDTW, and Too Much reprise.

BTW, I pre-ordered LT7....so excited for this one.

7.2.2004 would be a good one as well

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056133&tid=80&where=2004

bsan83
11-19-2006, 12:23 PM
7.2.2004 would be a good one as well

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056133&tid=80&where=2004

7.7 >>>>>>>> 7.2

DMBCLSTJ
11-19-2006, 01:07 PM
The whole WPB '04 weekend was spectacular from start to finish, but 7.31.04 is lacking Sugar Will and I'd prefer a release that encompassed all the '04 tunes. Having said that, I would have no problem with them releasing it since I was there.

Since we already have a few versions of Sugar Wil, I'd be cool with them releasing the 7.31.04 show. It really was sick from begining to end. That encore was pretty different


Anyone Seen the Bridge? »
Too Much
Satellite
What Would You Say
Seek Up
Fool to Think
Joyride
Crazy-Easy
When the World Ends
Bartender
Rhyme & Reason »
Good Good Time
Ants Marching
Cry Freedom
Hello Again
Everyday
___________________
Little Thing
One Sweet World
Warehouse

Naediel
11-19-2006, 01:28 PM
nope.

why does it matter - it could be the worst show ever and i'd still be pissed that it's 3 discs. everyone says this show is great, and i have no reason to think it's not. still...even if it's the most perfect thing the band has ever performed, the 3-disc thing still keeps it from perfection in my book

What the hell are you talking about? You know... CD's have time limitations.

JWood
11-19-2006, 01:36 PM
Now, are you talking about the best versions of those particular songs? Cause what I was thinking was a show that happened to have those 2 songs, maybe not their particular best versions, but a really good show that could be listened to as a whole, that happens to have decent versions of those songs we are missing SDBs of.
Yeah, I'm referring to finding a show with great versions of both Crazy-Easy and Good Good Time. For that, I'm really a fan of 6.18.04 and 7.2.04. I was at 6.18.04, and I think it has a stronger Crazy-Easy, but I really like the one from 7.2.05, as well as the Good Good Time. But I would have to go for 7.2.04:

Pig http://road.davematthewsband.com/img/arrowintosong.gif
The Stone
Don't Drink the Water http://road.davematthewsband.com/img/arrowintosong.gif
Sugar Will
Help Myself
Recently
The Song That Jane Likes
Hello Again
[Unknown Song] (tease) http://road.davematthewsband.com/img/arrowintosong.gif
Rhyme & Reason http://road.davematthewsband.com/img/arrowintosong.gif
Good Good Time
Grey Street
Crazy-Easy
What Would You Say
Cry Freedom
Joy Ride
When the World Ends
Ants Marching
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The Best of What's Around http://road.davematthewsband.com/img/arrowintosong.gif
Tripping Billies

Poth Ead
11-19-2006, 02:09 PM
when they release an '04 show, I'd rather it be Riverbend. Even though the AUD is fantastic quality, the overall performance was awesome and deserves a release... and I personally love the Jane >> Sugar Will performance...and this version of Typical is pretty stellar....

Riverbend Music Center
Cincinnati, OH
8.5.04

The Best of What's Around
Satellite
When the World Ends
The Song That Jane Likes >>
Sugar Will
I’ll Back You Up
So Much To Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? >>
Too Much
Typical Situation
Hello Again
Crazy Easy
Lie In Our Graves
Lover Lay Down
Warehouse
Joy Ride
The Stone
----------
Crash Into Me
Stay

pgr17
11-19-2006, 02:14 PM
if we're talking '04 shows to be considered for a Live Trax (which i really hope doesn't happen since our tapes from the recent tours have been so good) i'd say that 7/6/04 warrants some consideration:

One Sweet World
The Best Of What's Around
The Stone
The Song That Jane Likes
Sugar Will
Crush
Rhyme & Reason
Good Good Time
Warehouse
I Did It
Hello Again
Where Are You Going
Help Myself
Fool To Think
Jimi Thing
Crazy-Easy
Tripping Billies
-----
Joyride
What Would You Say

Crush87
11-19-2006, 02:19 PM
I'm glad people want to see some '04's out, but I really don't care how subpar GGP is - we have plenty of time for another '04 to be released. June '97, then either a '93 or '94 considering those years have been untouched

Disco Stu
11-19-2006, 02:22 PM
I purposely haven't listened to this show in about a year on the offchance they released it

I've never listened to this show

pgr17
11-19-2006, 02:32 PM
June '97, then either a '93 or '94 considering those years have been untouched

i'm right there with you... :upyours i just hope the next release is a '97 (6/22 would be great) with BOWA on it (actually interested to see how they would label Leave Me Praying since it is labeled as "new song" on dmband.com).

JWood
11-19-2006, 02:42 PM
if we're talking '04 shows to be considered for a Live Trax (which i really hope doesn't happen since our tapes from the recent tours have been so good) i'd say that 7/6/04 warrants some consideration:

One Sweet World
The Best Of What's Around
The Stone
The Song That Jane Likes
Sugar Will
Crush
Rhyme & Reason
Good Good Time
Warehouse
I Did It
Hello Again
Where Are You Going
Help Myself
Fool To Think
Jimi Thing
Crazy-Easy
Tripping Billies
-----
Joyride
What Would You Say
I would agree with this pick as well.

Rowsdower
11-19-2006, 02:48 PM
7.7 >>>>>>>> 7.2

I was at both and I would have to say 7-2 was better.

DMB1541
11-19-2006, 02:54 PM
Two 1997 shows that I never hear anyone talk about are 7.2.97 and 7.10.97. These were two of the first shows I ever heard and after listening to others from 97, these are still my 2 favorites. And if not the whole show, I would love to get either WWYS from 7.2 or Typical from 7.10 on a warehouse disc. Both of those two tracks are rediculous.

Carter41
11-19-2006, 02:57 PM
when they release an '04 show, I'd rather it be Riverbend. Even though the AUD is fantastic quality, the overall performance was awesome and deserves a release... and I personally love the Jane >> Sugar Will performance...and this version of Typical is pretty stellar....

Riverbend Music Center
Cincinnati, OH
8.5.04

The Best of What's Around
Satellite
When the World Ends
The Song That Jane Likes >>
Sugar Will
I’ll Back You Up
So Much To Say >>
Anyone Seen the Bridge? >>
Too Much
Typical Situation
Hello Again
Crazy Easy
Lie In Our Graves
Lover Lay Down
Warehouse
Joy Ride
The Stone
----------
Crash Into Me
Stay

I agree. The encore was a little weak, but overall, the set was ridiculously good. The only problem in my mind is that it lacks GGT. With that said, I really wouldn't mind a 7/10/04 release:

Dave Matthews Band
July 10, 2004
Hershey Park Stadium, Hershey, PA

Warehouse
One Sweet World
The Song That Jane Likes
Sugar Will
The Stone
The Space Between
Lie In Our Graves
Hello Again
Rhyme and Reason >
Good Good Time
Grey Street
What Would You Say
Interlude
Crazy-Easy
When the World Ends
Jimi Thing
Where Are You Going
Joy Ride
Pantala Naga Pampa >
Rapunzel
____________________
(Grace is Gone) Prelude >
Ants Marching

Poth Ead
11-19-2006, 03:01 PM
I agree. The encore was a little weak, but overall, the set was ridiculously good. The only problem in my mind is that it lacks GGT

yea... no GGT but I think we'll get GGT through a WH8 or a Bonus CD. and yea, weak encore. but a REALLY great performance overall. Sugar Will, Joy Ride and Crazy-Easy were all spot-on that night...

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:03 PM
7.7 >>>>>>>> 7.2

agree to disagree?

Carter41
11-19-2006, 03:05 PM
yea... no GGT but I think we'll get GGT through a WH8 or a Bonus CD. and yea, weak encore. but a REALLY great performance overall. Sugar Will, Joy Ride and Crazy-Easy were all spot-on that night...

:upyours I couldn't agree more. One of the best shows I've ever attended. The Stone closer was awesome too. Really surprised me. I wish they would do it a few times each tour.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:07 PM
I'm glad people want to see some '04's out, but I really don't care how subpar GGP is - we have plenty of time for another '04 to be released. June '97, then either a '93 or '94 considering those years have been untouched

'93 and '94 untouched? There are a TON of soundboards from those years. Doesn't make a lot of sense to release one right now. Not to mention I think they didn't start archiving shows until '94. There was a warehouse email about LT4 that said something along the lines of that anyways.

bigtrain21
11-19-2006, 03:09 PM
Two 1997 shows that I never hear anyone talk about are 7.2.97 and 7.10.97. These were two of the first shows I ever heard and after listening to others from 97, these are still my 2 favorites. And if not the whole show, I would love to get either WWYS from 7.2 or Typical from 7.10 on a warehouse disc. Both of those two tracks are rediculous.

Would you mind upping the typical from 7.10 if you get a chance?

bsan83
11-19-2006, 03:12 PM
if we're talking '04 shows to be considered for a Live Trax (which i really hope doesn't happen since our tapes from the recent tours have been so good) i'd say that 7/6/04 warrants some consideration:

One Sweet World
The Best Of What's Around
The Stone
The Song That Jane Likes
Sugar Will
Crush
Rhyme & Reason
Good Good Time
Warehouse
I Did It
Hello Again
Where Are You Going
Help Myself
Fool To Think
Jimi Thing
Crazy-Easy
Tripping Billies
-----
Joyride
What Would You Say

Ehh.... the first half of that show is sweet, but the second half is pretty crappy. The next night was far better.

Crush87
11-19-2006, 03:14 PM
'93 and '94 untouched? There are a TON of soundboards from those years. Doesn't make a lot of sense to release one right now. Not to mention I think they didn't start archiving shows until '94. There was a warehouse email about LT4 that said something along the lines of that anyways.

Don't be an idiot.

pgr17
11-19-2006, 03:15 PM
are you talking on paper or in person... i was at both nights and enjoyed n1 a lot more than n2.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:16 PM
Don't be an idiot.

A '93 or '94 release would be the worst selling LT to date.

Crush87
11-19-2006, 03:16 PM
A '93 or '94 release would be the worst selling LT to date.

:lol as if that should be the main motivation, if even true..

FiddySpence
11-19-2006, 03:17 PM
this will be the best show the band put out.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:18 PM
:lol as if that should be the main motivation, if even true..

We are talking about DMB...why wouldn't that be the main motivation?

pgr17
11-19-2006, 03:18 PM
A '93 or '94 release would be the worst selling LT to date.

why do you that would be the case?

Mersh
11-19-2006, 03:19 PM
A '93 or '94 release would be the worst selling LT to date.

Maybe, maybe not...I think the audience these things are targetted to will most likely buy all of them/nearly all of them regardless.

Crush87
11-19-2006, 03:19 PM
The whole 'we already have plenty of '93 '94 soundboards' argument donest hold water. There are plenty of shows that are in circulation as boards that deserve releases and there are plenty of shows out there that sound like crap and arent well circulated that need to see the light of day

A show like 11/9/93 deserves to be released just as much as 12/31/96.

And to answer your other comment, theyve been arciving shows since the beggining. Theyre not all multitrack, however.

Crush87
11-19-2006, 03:20 PM
We are talking about DMB...why wouldn't that be the main motivation?

Yea, that makes it right too :rolleyes

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:23 PM
what makes you say that?

There is a bunch of soundboards already out from those years, Dave's voice during that time is...well I won't go there, and business/promotional reasons that wouldn't appeal to a mass audience. I realize business shouldn't be a part of a good release, but in reality it is. I like some of the shows from that time but honestly I only listen to them if they happen to pop up on a playlist.

bsan83
11-19-2006, 03:25 PM
are you talking on paper or in person... i was at both nights and enjoyed n1 a lot more than n2.

Both. I thought N1 hit a big lull toward the end and the encore was meh, and N2 was one of my favorite shows I've been to.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:25 PM
The whoe 'we already have plenty of '93 '94 soundboards' argument donest hold water. There are plenty of shows that are in circulation as boards that deserve releases and there are plenty of shows out there that sound like crap and arent well circulated that need to see the light of day

11/9/93 deserves to be released just as much as 12/31/96.

And to answer your other comment, theyve been arciving shows since the beggining. Theyre not all multitrack, however.


Sorry, I don't see your point about the boards thing. If I have a soundboard copy of a show, I have minimal interest in even downloading a released version much less buying it.

Mersh
11-19-2006, 03:27 PM
Sorry, I don't see your point about the boards thing. If I have a soundboard copy of a show, I have minimal interest in even downloading a released version much less buying it.

We are thinking of shows that either do not circulate or if they do have very poor quality tapes available.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:27 PM
Maybe, maybe not...I think the audience these things are targetted to will most likely buy all of them/nearly all of them regardless.

Well, you could be right in that aspect. However, reading old LT announcement threads I tend to disagree.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:28 PM
We are thinking of shows that either do not circulate or if they do have very poor quality tapes available.

Yeah, and I never said they shouldn't be released. I just said right now...as in there are many other shows that deserve to be released before a '93 or '94 show.

Mersh
11-19-2006, 03:29 PM
Well, you could be right in that aspect. However, reading old LT announcement threads I tend to disagree.

Eh, I think a lot of people say one thing on the boards and do another. I bet a lot of people who said they wouldn't buy past LT releases and BOWA actually did.

Mersh
11-19-2006, 03:30 PM
Yeah, and I never said they shouldn't be released. I just said right now...as in there are many other shows that deserve to be released before a '93 or '94 show.

I think the argument could be made that there are a number of shows from any year that deserve a release. I don't know how one year deserves it more than another...outside personal preference that is.

pgr17
11-19-2006, 03:30 PM
Both. I thought N1 hit a big lull toward the end and the encore was meh, and N2 was one of my favorite shows I've been to.

see... here is where seats play a big part i think. i enjoyed both shows, but N1 a lot more than N2. N1 i was 7th row center, and N2, way back in the shed.

either way, i'm hoping for a return to Great Woods this year for DMB... always great shows there.

Crush87
11-19-2006, 03:32 PM
I think the argument could be made that there are a number of shows from any year that deserve a release. I don't know how one year deserves it more than another...outside personal preference that is.

As far as LT's go, I really think anything post 2000 should be kept to a minimum. Maybe that's just me. The idea of having this series for the purpose of archival releases is what really appeals to me. Of course, that hasnt been totally the case thus far.

ethaxton
11-19-2006, 03:32 PM
Eh, I think a lot of people say one thing on the boards and do another. I bet a lot of people who said they wouldn't buy past LT releases and BOWA actually did.

Are you speaking from personal experience?

Mersh
11-19-2006, 03:33 PM
Are you speaking from personal experience?

Nah, I didn't get either...didn't buy either anyway.

fxblitz
11-19-2006, 03:58 PM
Maybe, maybe not...I think the audience these things are targetted to will most likely buy all of them/nearly all of them regardless.

It would be interesting to see the sales numbers on these so far. They must be pretty successful so far.

DMB1541
11-19-2006, 07:58 PM
Would you mind upping the typical from 7.10 if you get a chance?

I don't have my cd changer with all my shows up at school, when I get home for Thanksgiving on wednesday I can do it. If you want to wait, just send me a PM.

LIOGwhat
11-19-2006, 08:07 PM
on the topic of releasing a 2004 show, i'd give the nod to 7/10.
--a nice warehouse opener
--the space between pops up in there (just something different, regardless of whether or not you like the tune)
--what is regarded by many as the best good good time
--the unreal musical interlude into a solid crazy easy
--still to this day the best Jimi thing scat/rap i have ever heard
--and that unique prelude into ants for the a sweet encore to a long set

JMU1330
11-19-2006, 08:07 PM
Awesome. 10 years later reopening and pouring salt in the wound that my moron high school friends backed out of going to the show at the last minute so we could go to downtown Norfolk for New Year's. :downyours

LIOGwhat
11-19-2006, 08:08 PM
PS- i am really really excited for the NYE 96 show. for all the talk about it, i have never picked up a copy of this show!

CRUSHsoccer15
11-19-2006, 08:30 PM
this release should be awesome

batleon
11-19-2006, 11:27 PM
I'm away on business and pretty much internet-less for a week, and I come back to find out this :upyours :upyours

Fantastic. Giving us shows like this is the reason Live Trax should exist.

burstandbloom
11-20-2006, 07:42 AM
I think with the discussion about 93-94, we give the band a lot more credit on being on top of the taping community then they probably actually are. The chances of us getting a gem that was previously a crappy tape are almost slim to none from that time. Sorry.

I think a 97 show is going to be the next thing the community really pulls for. After that, Id just be happy with solid shows.

batleon
11-20-2006, 01:15 PM
because they often put together a nice run of songs or a special/notable performance...now you're just being an idiot.

New board, but Mersh still pwns

I am surprised to see that quite a few people have never heard this show.

This is exactly what's wrong with the fanbase today.

DJ Naga Pampa
11-20-2006, 01:41 PM
question, are the other live traxs in stores like fenway and/or is this going to be released in stores?

JWood
11-20-2006, 01:47 PM
I'm assuming that this will be like Volumes 1-5, I don't think they will be in-store releases anymore.

bbycrei
11-20-2006, 03:37 PM
Thanks. So I'm guessing it was Bela, Wooten Brothers, and their old keyboardist, and from time to time McCandless would guest until Coffin joined?

Nope this was by the time Howard Leavy left. They were a threesome that usually had Paul and Sam Bush guest on shows.

Tomacco
11-20-2006, 04:02 PM
More or less off-topic, but does anyone know how BOWA has been doing sales-wise?

ggies
11-20-2006, 04:06 PM
As far as LT's go, I really think anything post 2000 should be kept to a minimum. Maybe that's just me. The idea of having this series for the purpose of archival releases is what really appeals to me. Of course, that hasnt been totally the case thus far.

I agree.

JWood
11-20-2006, 04:33 PM
More or less off-topic, but does anyone know how BOWA has been doing sales-wise?
No clue, I would love to see how their Live Trax series have done.

raven
11-20-2006, 05:05 PM
fine - i'll stop. i can see that i'm clearly the outcast on this argument.

i'm extremely, extremely anal about CD packaging...what can i say? i already emailed RedLight about it

i would never buy a live release with filler...never
that's ridiculous

Smokey the Bear
11-20-2006, 05:25 PM
fine - i'll stop. i can see that i'm clearly the outcast on this argument.

i'm extremely, extremely anal about CD packaging...what can i say? i already emailed RedLight about it

i would never buy a live release with filler...never

:lol :lol :lol You're an absolute fucking idiot.

Red Light: "Wait wait wait guys, this guy doesn't like the way we package these cds....halt production on Live Trax 7, we need to change things for him"

And yeah, I know what you mean...theres nothing I hate more than some bonus songs. I would be so pissed if I got a cd where they used 30 minutes of blank space to give us some special bonus songs. That means I would have to push the Stop button on the cd player once the last song of the concert was over so it doesn't seem like the concert continues. While they're at it, they should really stop giving us Warehouse 8 cds and other bonus discs...they come in cardboard packaging and they're all filler.

dmb2much40
11-20-2006, 10:06 PM
this is the best show they've ever played. how anyone can not like this release is unfathomable.

and on a side note, it's really sad that there are people who are big enough fans to be posting on a messageboard and haven't heard this show.

BeQuietAndDrive
11-20-2006, 10:27 PM
this is the best show they've ever played. how anyone can not like this release is unfathomable.

and on a side note, it's really sad that there are people who are big enough fans to be posting on a messageboard and haven't heard this show.

I kinda wish I haven't.

Lights_1
11-20-2006, 10:54 PM
this is the best show they've ever played. how anyone can not like this release is unfathomable.

and on a side note, it's really sad that there are people who are big enough fans to be posting on a messageboard and haven't heard this show.

Well there has never really been a great audio source of this show. I think that might be part of the reason some people haven't heard it. I know I have only listened to parts of it once or twice because of the recording and I don't think I have ever listened to the remastered/EQ'd copy from 02. I guess I am just very picky like that but I do know I am going to enjoy the hell out of this release.

dmb2much40
11-20-2006, 10:56 PM
I kinda wish I haven't.

why's that?

borat
11-21-2006, 02:29 AM
:lol :lol :lol You're an absolute fucking idiot.

Red Light: "Wait wait wait guys, this guy doesn't like the way we package these cds....halt production on Live Trax 7, we need to change things for him"

And yeah, I know what you mean...theres nothing I hate more than some bonus songs. I would be so pissed if I got a cd where they used 30 minutes of blank space to give us some special bonus songs. That means I would have to push the Stop button on the cd player once the last song of the concert was over so it doesn't seem like the concert continues. While they're at it, they should really stop giving us Warehouse 8 cds and other bonus discs...they come in cardboard packaging and they're all filler.

:rolleyes it's a matter of preference

and i know Red Light wasn't going to do anything...i just wanted an answer

borat
11-21-2006, 02:29 AM
and on a side note, it's really sad that there are people who are big enough fans to be posting on a messageboard and haven't heard this show.

some of us don't listen to AUD recordings or download/trade shows

DMBTex10101
11-21-2006, 03:20 AM
Thanks. So I'm guessing it was Bela, Wooten Brothers, and their old keyboardist, and from time to time McCandless would guest until Coffin joined?

Just to clarify. When Howard Levy (keyboards/harmonica) left at the end of '92, Bela, Vic, & Futureman toured as a trio for the following 4 years. Paul McCandless joined them from time to time, but he wasn't a permanent guest. He had (has?) a band of his own, so he would join whenever he could. Sam Bush also joined them quite frequently, but neither were permanent guests, or full members of the band.

Jeff finally joined them in '97 first as a guest, then as an actual member, and now Paul still guests on rare occasions, but it is always a good time when he does.

As far as this release is concerned. It will make one hell of a Christmas gift for me to give myself!

batleon
11-21-2006, 09:25 AM
I love Jeff Coffin, but some of my favorite Flecktones shows feature Paul as a guest. Anyone who's curious about Paul's work with the 'Tones should do themselves a favor and check out these two shows

http://www.archive.org/details/bfft1997-04-22.SMS2000.flacf
http://www.archive.org/details/bfft1997-04-24.cmc6.mk4.flacf

raven
11-21-2006, 10:14 AM
Well there has never really been a great audio source of this show. I think that might be part of the reason some people haven't heard it. I know I have only listened to parts of it once or twice because of the recording and I don't think I have ever listened to the remastered/EQ'd copy from 02. I guess I am just very picky like that but I do know I am going to enjoy the hell out of this release.I was talking about this recently on ufck. Back in 97 and 98 before cds were prevalent and most people still traded tapes, the quality of the recording wasn't always taken into account.. the quality of the performance sometimes outweighed lack of quality. I think this is definitely a show where that should be the case.. everyone should hear this show despite the quality of the recording. The recording really isn't that bad either.. it's a little bit distant and muffled but really not that bad at all. Of course this won't be an issue in a few weeks anyway.

Crush87
11-21-2006, 10:36 AM
Just to clarify. When Howard Levy (keyboards/harmonica) left at the end of '92, Bela, Vic, & Futureman toured as a trio for the following 4 years. Paul McCandless joined them from time to time, but he wasn't a permanent guest. He had (has?) a band of his own, so he would join whenever he could. Sam Bush also joined them quite frequently, but neither were permanent guests, or full members of the band.

Jeff finally joined them in '97 first as a guest, then as an actual member, and now Paul still guests on rare occasions, but it is always a good time when he does.

As far as this release is concerned. It will make one hell of a Christmas gift for me to give myself!

Thanks for clearing that up :upyours