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Jack
03-18-2010, 02:28 PM
Warehouse Annual Membership Package Update

The Warehouse is preparing for the mailing of the annual membership package! We expect to begin mailing the package in the next few weeks to all members that joined or renewed in 2009. We hope that you’ll be pleased with the song choices on the Warehouse CDs. The 2010 package will be developed this year and will also include an original Warehouse 5 or 8 CD. The 2010 package will be mailed to all members that join/renew in 2010 in early 2011.

We will be offering the Warehouse 5, Volume 9 CD of live DMB songs to members that have been with the Warehouse for three years or less and the Warehouse 8, Volume 6 CD of live DMB songs to members that have been with the Warehouse for four years or longer! Included in the 2009 package will be an 8x10 black and white photograph from the 09 tour as well as a Big Whiskey magnet created by Athens, GA artist Dana Jo Cooley. The environmentally-friendly magnet design features Big Whiskey cover art, laser-cut Birch wood and local and recycled materials. The waste created by the magnet project will be used in an upcoming art exhibit, “Home: Growing up in Appalachia”; additional excess will be used to create educational materials for an Athens Montessori school.

Track Listing

1. Eh Hee 10.01.2007 / Hollywood Bowl / Hollywood, CA
2. You Might Die Trying 08.15.2006 / HiFi Buys Amphitheatre / Atlanta, GA
3. Gravedigger 08.20.2008 / Staples Center / Los Angeles, CA
4. Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd 09.13.2006 / Pepsi Center / Denver, CO
5. Say Goodbye 07.05.1997 / Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre / Irvine, CA
****
6. Stay (Wasting Time) 06.23.2004 / Germain Amphitheatre / Columbus, OH
7. Seven 09.06.2009 / Gorge Amphitheatre / George, WA
8. Time Bomb 09.06.2009 / Gorge Amphitheatre / George, WA

Jack
03-18-2010, 02:30 PM
only thing good about this is we are guaranteed 7/5/97 at some point.

ThememanXX
03-18-2010, 02:34 PM
terrible. just fucking terrible. Die Trying from 2006!? Stolen Away? Stay? Eh Hee? Gravedigger?? Two Big Whiskey songs from the Gorge, where Dave's voice wasn't half decent? Fuck.

sdaltons
03-18-2010, 02:35 PM
christ this is the worst one yet. the others look great compared to this.

.Gary.
03-18-2010, 02:36 PM
This is some kind of joke, right?

mja271
03-18-2010, 02:37 PM
I'm used to being underwhelmed by these tracklistings, but come on. That is comically bad

Derek
03-18-2010, 02:39 PM
Jeff is on that Die Trying though as the Flecktones guested that show. But yea...

drh424s
03-18-2010, 02:41 PM
wonder if this would even fetch me a used turd in a bag on ebay for this one

Hope i get it before everyone so i can boost my what ratio, that's about all it'll be good for

Penumbra
03-18-2010, 02:41 PM
Why can't they just admit that they made a bad album and move on with it? This is fucking bullshit.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 02:41 PM
stolen away is a decent song, but there's only one pre-08 eh hee that's good and that one isn't it. that '06 die trying is horrible, but i'm excited about that say goodbye. overall that looks a little better than the last disc.

soright05
03-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Joking right?

Jack
03-18-2010, 02:42 PM
Gravedigger from the night Roi died is an interesting choice.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 02:43 PM
i thought he died 8-19

BeQuietAndDrive
03-18-2010, 02:43 PM
:lol Awesome.

Jack
03-18-2010, 02:44 PM
i thought he died 8-19

yup, my bad. Still.

batleon
03-18-2010, 02:49 PM
Good God it's hideous.

Oh wait, there's a '97 track hiding in there. That's like the absolutely beautiful pair of blue eyes on the heavyset obnoxious needy complaining know-it-all girl I work with.

#41
03-18-2010, 02:49 PM
wow, what a turd.

NiCK Crush
03-18-2010, 02:51 PM
Damn... last year's was rough... but this?

Jack
03-18-2010, 02:51 PM
Good God it's hideous.

Oh wait, there's a '97 track hiding in there. That's like the absolutely beautiful pair of blue eyes on the heavyset obnoxious know-it-all girl I work with.

yup, and two tracks now released from that show guarantees it will be a DMBLive/Live Trax.

JWood
03-18-2010, 02:54 PM
damn, we're never getting a Good Good Time soundboard

batleon
03-18-2010, 02:55 PM
yup, and two tracks now released from that show guarantees it will be a DMBLive/Live Trax.

Which of course renders having those two tracks completely pointless. Bravo.

Trying to find something special about any of these other tracks. Only interesting thing is the YMDT has both Roi and Jeff on it. That's really it. I mean I hate to sound like a broken record here but what is the thought process behind picking these?

d.m.bfan222
03-18-2010, 02:56 PM
Wow, this is horrible. Worst ever (and that is saying a lot)

Pay4WhatUGet
03-18-2010, 02:57 PM
Unbelievably bad effort by the WH. Really awful looking disc.

JWood
03-18-2010, 02:57 PM
last disc had a track from 8.15.06 too

ThememanXX
03-18-2010, 03:03 PM
Which of course renders having those two tracks completely pointless. Bravo.

Trying to find something special about any of these other tracks. Only interesting thing is the YMDT has both Roi and Jeff on it. That's really it. I mean I hate to sound like a broken record here but what is the thought process behind picking these?

Dartboard? :boohoo

Poth Ead
03-18-2010, 03:07 PM
Jezzzz.... what a fuckin turd :downyours

Jack
03-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Dave must have told the warehouse to forget about all the good songs too.

batleon
03-18-2010, 03:09 PM
onlything good about this is we are basically guaranteed 7/5/97 at some point now.

Missed this post initially. If they're going to give us a '97 I can think of a bunch more that I'd rather have. I'm not so starved for a '97 that I'll take whatever they throw at us.

(I say that now anyway)

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 03:09 PM
Which of course renders having those two tracks completely pointless. Bravo.



not to mention, July '97 isn't what we really want.

still, as bad as this is i think it will get more plays than the last disc.

gweeps
03-18-2010, 03:20 PM
Damn.

TheNoise
03-18-2010, 03:26 PM
wow. that one really is the worst so far.

SeekUpAB
03-18-2010, 03:26 PM
Wow. I really wasn't expecting anything amazing, but I thought there'd be a few tracks I'd be at least mildly excited for. I can honestly say I don't care about a single one of these.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 03:27 PM
Oh my God. That's the worst one yet. I almost can't believe it. It's like they purposely picked the most offensive songs/performances.

priceofacoke910
03-18-2010, 03:29 PM
Hey, another 8.15.06 track! I was at that show, but I wouldn't have picked that track at all.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 03:29 PM
Oh good grief, I looked at the list again. What the hell? You know what, Warehouse? Don't even bother sending me this one. I don't want it in my home.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 03:30 PM
Hey, another 8.15.06 track! I was at that show, but I wouldn't have picked that track at all.

If the absolutely terrible Break Free is any indication, this is going to be a shit-tastic You Might Die Trying.

Jack
03-18-2010, 03:33 PM
Dream Girl. Old Dirt Hill and Smooth Rider (C'ville) are all locks for next year.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 03:34 PM
Dream Girl. Old Dirt Hill and Smooth Rider (C'ville) are all locks for next year.

They can't fit that Smooth Rider on just one disc. It's too long. They'll need a Blu Ray disc or something.

batleon
03-18-2010, 03:39 PM
Even the '97 track is kind of a yawn for me, but I'm not the biggest Say Goodbye fan.

Whatever I'm not getting outraged because I'm not in Warehouse anyway. I'm just confused by the thought process behind this.

DMBCLSTJ
03-18-2010, 03:40 PM
Ouch, good thing we get 50 live releases a year. This is pure garbage minus Say Goodbye and Seven

Jack
03-18-2010, 03:41 PM
Even the '97 track is kind of a yawn for me, but I'm not the biggest Say Goodbye fan.

we'll have to wait for Rob to chime in here...

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 03:42 PM
Ouch, good thing we get 50 live releases a year. This is pure garbage minus Say Goodbye and Seven

Unfortunately, their choosing of live releases has gone downhill like their choosing of Warehouse songs.

sneaksbeac
03-18-2010, 03:49 PM
I'm tired of having Gravedigger shoved down my throat....just bury it and let it die already

.Gary.
03-18-2010, 03:54 PM
I'm tired of having Gravedigger shoved down my throat....just bury it and let it die already

Lolz

pgr17
03-18-2010, 04:01 PM
oh, forgot about this.

wiebrod
03-18-2010, 04:13 PM
Kind of wish they wouldn't have announced this, I had almost fogotten about it.

drh424s
03-18-2010, 04:21 PM
good thing warehouse is so sucky i only get one of these every 2-3 years or so in the mail

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 04:26 PM
the overreactions to this is kind of funny.

Slowbutspeeding
03-18-2010, 04:31 PM
wow. that blows.

Crush87
03-18-2010, 04:32 PM
This isnt even fucking funny. Unbelievable. I'm not usually this jaded but fuck it, im glad I let my shit lapse.

Crush87
03-18-2010, 04:33 PM
the overreactions to this is kind of funny.

On a real life level, absolutely. Who cares. As a fan, it's a fucking disgrace.

pgr17
03-18-2010, 04:33 PM
one of these times they should let the fans vote the songs and they pick the dates.

Crush87
03-18-2010, 04:33 PM
I take it back. On second glance, this is funny.

Everyone thank Jake.

Mike VDH
03-18-2010, 04:34 PM
the overreactions to this is kind of funny.

Overreaction? Yeah, we get it. It's a "free" CD. But when you could do better saying:

Pick the 5th track from 17th show of 2001,

there's a problem.




(Big Eyed Fish, 6/3/01)

SonofSuns34
03-18-2010, 04:34 PM
really, stolen away.... really?

Was this years theme "Let's come up with the worst disc possible" cus they came pretty damn close with all 8 of those picks...

p.s. Lets reward long time members with such rare, sought after tracks like Stay, Seven, and Time Bomb

seekup19
03-18-2010, 04:38 PM
wow, this is so horribly bad i can't even believe it. aren't some of these repeats anyway (i.e. the song has already been on a warehouse disc)? what on earth are they thinking?

gaaah, it's not even worth listening to!

how do they pick this stuff? do they even listen to this band or just throw darts?

Crush87
03-18-2010, 04:38 PM
Did anyone see my genius picks in the previous thread?

It's unfathomable that this band shares a management with Phish, who continually showcases creativity and actual thought.

Crush87
03-18-2010, 04:41 PM
Guys, seriously though, this must be a really eventful "Stay." So excited.

dmbfan41
03-18-2010, 04:45 PM
Who makes these compilations? :screwy

This one is just terrible. And why not just give everyone 8 tracks. Is it really that big of a deal?

All they have to do is go on a message board and see what the fans want to hear.

onesweetwhirled
03-18-2010, 04:49 PM
What a kick in the balls.

SonofSuns34
03-18-2010, 04:50 PM
Who makes these compilations? :screwy

This one is just terrible. And why not just give everyone 8 tracks. Is it really that big of a deal?

All they have to do is go on a message board and see what the fans want to hear.

I dunno. but I would like to beat them like a red headed step child and throw them in the basement...

raven
03-18-2010, 04:53 PM
yikes.. ugh :\

italy8384
03-18-2010, 04:55 PM
Is it so hard to put up a poll on their website? Each member gets one vote and you pick 8 songs. How hard is it!?!?!?! This list is a joke, if the fans voted and this is what they picked I would suck it up and be fine with it. But for some random guy to pick such a boring list with no fan input is unacceptable.

kitkat
03-18-2010, 04:56 PM
and these have the potential to be so good....

i'm eager to hear the say goodbye...but nothing else is a highlight.

SonofSuns34
03-18-2010, 05:01 PM
the thread title is spot on

Mike VDH
03-18-2010, 05:02 PM
Is it so hard to put up a poll on their website? Each member gets one vote and you pick 8 songs. How hard is it!?!?!?! This list is a joke, if the fans voted and this is what they picked I would suck it up and be fine with it. But for some random guy to pick such a boring list with no fan input is unacceptable.

If the fans voted for this, we may need to have a mass intervention.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 05:04 PM
Overreaction? Yeah, we get it. It's a "free" CD. But when you could do better saying:

Pick the 5th track from 17th show of 2001,

there's a problem.




(Big Eyed Fish, 6/3/01)

this post doesn't make any sense.

like batleon i'm not in the warehouse, so i don't care much about this one way or the other. but the "i don't even want this in my home!" type of comments are comical. we have so much live material from these guys and so much more that's going to be released. it's one disc of sub par material, just go listen to the newest dmblive and move on with your day.

DMBpride
03-18-2010, 05:09 PM
maybe "meh" tracklist, but rockin' artwork :D

Crush87
03-18-2010, 05:16 PM
And they chose Say Goodbye purely because theyre considering it for a release. That should be the last reason you include a random track on a compilation disc. Wow.

sdaltons
03-18-2010, 05:20 PM
maybe "meh" tracklist, but rockin' artwork :D
i see no artwork??

Mike VDH
03-18-2010, 05:25 PM
i see no artwork??

I think it may be forthcoming and he may have something to do with it...

this post doesn't make any sense.

Well, if you were strictly talking about the overreactions like your example, I'm with you. But I think people are allowed to be angered at the choices for this disc which is supposedly sent to 'the hardcores' of the band.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 05:30 PM
And they chose Say Goodbye purely because theyre considering it for a release. That should be the last reason you include a random track on a compilation disc. Wow.

do you know this for sure?

Crush87
03-18-2010, 05:32 PM
do you know this for sure?

Well they used Typical for the Haiti disc did they not?

This has been done time and time again. Its astounding how little effort gets put into this.

ThememanXX
03-18-2010, 05:37 PM
in case anyone was wondering....Eh Hee has Danny Barnes, this Die Trying absolutely blows and there's some awesome stuff before Gravedigger where Dave talks about Roi.

Oh, and here are the individual AUD tracks if you'd rather just light the actual WH package on fire when you get it.....

1. Eh Hee 10.01.2007 / Hollywood Bowl / Hollywood, CA
http://www.mediafire.com/?wy0zlznzjam

2. You Might Die Trying 08.15.2006 / HiFi Buys Amphitheatre / Atlanta, GA
http://www.mediafire.com/?zbywmtn3ton

3. Gravedigger 08.20.2008 / Staples Center / Los Angeles, CA
http://www.mediafire.com/?zqwtoc434oh

4. Stolen Away on 55th and 3rd 09.13.2006 / Pepsi Center / Denver, CO
http://www.mediafire.com/?3ximydo4nyo

5. Say Goodbye 07.05.1997 / Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre / Irvine, CA
http://www.mediafire.com/?fmmnf3imyqz

6. Stay (Wasting Time) 06.23.2004 / Germain Amphitheatre / Columbus, OH
http://www.mediafire.com/?kzkrtk4hzmh

7. Seven 09.06.2009 / Gorge Amphitheatre / George, WA
http://www.mediafire.com/?yw3nygzmem0

8. Time Bomb 09.06.2009 / Gorge Amphitheatre / George, WA
http://www.mediafire.com/?iqo1nzewhdy

ThememanXX
03-18-2010, 05:39 PM
maybe "meh" tracklist, but rockin' artwork :D

:upyours

Mike VDH
03-18-2010, 05:42 PM
do you know this for sure?

Little Thing 10.24.96 - Warehouse 8, Volume 3 and then DMBLive
Say Goodbye 6.26.00 - So Much To Save Compilation and Live Trax
Minarets 8.29.00 - Warehouse 5, Volume 3 and then Live Trax
So Damn Lucky 6.28.08 - Live Trax 2008 Compilation and then Live Trax (different circumstances, I know)
#41 12.8.98 Warehouse 5, Volume 1 and Live Trax

Plus a few other tracks that appeared on promos and then shows.

It's not a guarantee that the '97 show is released, but they do have a history of recently decent songs from decent shows and then releasing those shows.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 05:43 PM
Well they used Typical for the Haiti disc did they not?

This has been done time and time again. Its astounding how little effort gets put into this.

i know it's happened before. but, i don't think they're picking these songs based on the shows they're thinking about releasing. i think they release shows based on songs they've picked before since they're familiar with the show at that point. i just think it's the opposite of what you think they're doing.

Poth Ead
03-18-2010, 05:44 PM
stolen away :wtf who the fuck actually enjoys this song? the bottom of the barrel (catelogue) for sure

ThememanXX
03-18-2010, 05:44 PM
i know it's happened before. but, i don't think they're picking these songs based on the shows they're thinking about releasing. i think they release shows based on songs they've picked before since they're familiar with the show at that point. i just think it's the opposite of what you think they're doing.

I agree

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 05:45 PM
It's not a guarantee that the '97 show is released, but they do have a history of recently decent songs from decent shows and then releasing those shows.

i know, but i don't think they're currently thinking about releasing 7-5-97 and that's why they're using these songs. i think they'll release 7-5-97 in the future because they've released these songs. it's still lazy, but at least it's not as shitty.

Mike VDH
03-18-2010, 05:46 PM
i know it's happened before. but, i don't think they're picking these songs based on the shows they're thinking about releasing. i think they release shows based on songs they've picked before since they're familiar with the show at that point. i just think it's the opposite of what you think they're doing.

If they do it either way, it still sucks. They shouldn't be releasing individual songs for shows they may release. And they shouldn't be releasing shows because the already mixed a song or two from that show and it'd be easier since the show is already narrowed down.

With these WH discs, I think it'd be important to release good songs from not so great shows (see the Seek Up from '01 on WH5v2). Or use the discs as a way to release other material like sound checks and whatnot, as per the ideas in the other thread.

EDIT: It isn't as shitty, yes, but still very lazy as you said.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 06:00 PM
I am sure this has been said several times, but this might be the worst WH disc yet...or in the running anyway.

Actually, it might be marginally better than the one loaded with 05 performances.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 06:02 PM
ah well, only another year and a half until I get my 2009 WH disc. Maybe that will be better.

firedwarftj
03-18-2010, 06:09 PM
pathetic choice by the WH ... did Antz make these choices are something

vtpettit
03-18-2010, 06:54 PM
Wow... I'll only be ripping Say Goodbye into iTunes. Thanks WH!

Dirtydeeds
03-18-2010, 06:54 PM
So glad my warehouse membership ran out. waste of $$.

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 07:20 PM
There's a lot that bugs me about this. Not in a throwing my computer across the room kind of way, but still. The fan club disc SHOULD be a show of appreciation to the fans who care enough about the band to spend extra money to belong. There are lots of bands I like that I'm not spending extra cash on for fan club benefits. But this disc is not only epically bad in terms of WHAT COULD BE, but the thing that pisses me off most is that it seems more like a promo disc than a fan club disc. We just got versions of the BW songs, you have an album out, we get it. And guess what? 99.9% of us have it. The other ones are songs that have been beaten to death both in concert and on releases. And I like Eh Hee, SG and (yes) Stay on principle.

They're not going to release an '04 songs disc, I get that. But if that would be a 10 and this disc is a 1, can't we at least meet in the middle somewhere?

Smittay
03-18-2010, 07:29 PM
listen, stop whining.

ALL of these are EXCELLENT versions of these songs...
and the two new songs ARE the best versions of the 09 songs

many of these feature Roi is at his peak.
dont let song names fool your imagination.
open your mind. think bigger. yeah, thats right ...

just listen for the magic.
die trying, stolen, goodbye and stay are off the chart roi

theres a reason they went back to 97, 04 & 06... roi was alive
they are magic.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 07:34 PM
Best tunes, best versions to feature Roi, smits?

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 07:34 PM
your sig is very helpful in giving the context of your posts.

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 07:44 PM
do you know this for sure?

Actually, yes, they are.

And this is a fairly poor release. Even pointing some interesting things to look forward to such as the 8/15/06 performance of YMDT with both Coffin and Roi, this disc is just so disappointing. I enjoy the discs that really span the years. Not a disc that has one '97 performance on it because it's a show that's already sitting on the shelf, polished and ready for release. This is just a lazy bunch of picks and truly makes me wonder if every WH5 selection is done by someone different. I can't imagine the same person picking the performances for WH8 Vol. 3, being the same person picking this selection.

Sad. They have the god damn vault. They have the shows. They've got multiple fan communities they could sift through to find out what performances some fans would actually enjoy. I just don't get it.

sdaltons
03-18-2010, 07:49 PM
For the record, eh hee is the second song released from 10.1.07, so it's not just the '97 show

Mersh
03-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Ah WH8v3, that was a good disc. This one is just full of tunes I don;t care about regardless of the versions and who is palying on them...YMDT, Stolen Away, Eh Hee, Time Bomb, Gravedigger, and Stay (to some extent). This one and the last one are pretty disappointing.

Tomacco
03-18-2010, 07:50 PM
For the record, eh hee is the second song released from 10.1.07, so it's not just the '97 show

Stolen Away is also the second song from 9/13/06.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 07:50 PM
Actually, yes, they are.


well unless you have some inside information i've already said why i don't think that's necessarily the case.

sdaltons
03-18-2010, 07:53 PM
Stolen Away is also the second song from 9/13/06.
:upyours

Jack
03-18-2010, 08:00 PM
i know it's happened before. but, i don't think they're picking these songs based on the shows they're thinking about releasing. i think they release shows based on songs they've picked before since they're familiar with the show at that point. i just think it's the opposite of what you think they're doing.

I think they have a list of shows they want to release or are looking at for release and release tracks from them. I think tracks from 7/5/97 were released because they plan on releasing it, not because they just happened to think Say Bye or typical from that show were hot versions.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:02 PM
I think they have a list of shows they want to release or are looking at for release and release tracks from them. I think tracks from 7/5/97 were released because they plan on releasing it, not because they just happened to think Say Bye or typical from that show were hot versions.

i'm not saying that's not possible, but these definitive statements of "they are looking to release this show" when it seems to me that no one knows for sure what there plans are or how they pick these things irks me a little.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 08:04 PM
they are releasing it...7.5.97 that is.

Jack
03-18-2010, 08:05 PM
they are releasing it...7.5.97 that is.

.

see post two of thread for official confirmation :lol

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:07 PM
i feel like a wet blanket saying this - which i honestly try to avoid - but if that's the first 97 show we get that's kind of bullshit.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 08:08 PM
Wouldn't have been my pick...or top 5 even, but it is what it is. I'll take a 97 over another 09.

batleon
03-18-2010, 08:10 PM
i feel like a wet blanket saying this - which i honestly try to avoid - but if that's the first 97 show we get that's kind of bullshit.

If they're going to give us a '97 I can think of a bunch more that I'd rather have. I'm not so starved for a '97 that I'll take whatever they throw at us.

(I say that now anyway)

.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:13 PM
i feel like we have to be super specific with our vocal requests or they'll just fuck it up. it's not enough to say "we need a 97 show" when what we really mean is "we need a june '97 show stacked with the flecktones"

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 08:20 PM
Well there have been two vocal stances on '97 releases. Those who want a Flecktones guest show from early to mid June, and those who wanted a later June show. I guess with a July release, both parties can't complain too much. I agree that any '97 is much more enticing and interesting than yet another '08, '09 release.

The Godfather
03-18-2010, 08:26 PM
an interesting release I would have to say...

Mersh
03-18-2010, 08:28 PM
Well there have been two vocal stances on '97 releases. Those who want a Flecktones guest show from early to mid June, and those who wanted a later June show. I guess with a July release, both parties can't complain too much. I agree that any '97 is much more enticing and interesting than yet another '08, '09 release.

Every 97 show I'd pick wouls be from June whether early or late. I am not going to bitch about getting a 97, but 7.5 isn't on my want list at all.

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 08:29 PM
To a larger extent, I wonder what the aim of the band/management is these days? Even with the down couple years, they are still one of the biggest acts around. Think Pearl Jam, U2 and "classic" acts big. A fair amount of the people who listen to music (and many of those who don't) at least know who they are.

Other bands have done everything from releasing every show from the tour (PJ) to instant live recordings at concerts. The total output of DMB is rather impressive, they're coming up on what, 50 releases? Plus a boatload of warehouse and bonus discs.

I don't have a problem with the bonuses being things I don't necessarily want, but when they are this far out in left field, it almost seems like they've gone out of the way to create it.

I think this is where DMBLive is failing as a product. They could just load that bitch up with shows. Make it an event, 1 per month, 3 per quarter, something cool to look forward to. But instead, it seems like they are still baiting us, yanking the lure away just as we go for it. Here's our offering...oh, sorry it wasn't for you? Well, you know the next one might be...stay tuned...

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 08:31 PM
To a larger extent, I wonder what the aim of the band/management is these days? Even with the down couple years, they are still one of the biggest acts around. Think Pearl Jam, U2 and "classic" acts big. A fair amount of the people who listen to music (and many of those who don't) at least know who they are.

Other bands have done everything from releasing every show from the tour (PJ) to instant live recordings at concerts. The total output of DMB is rather impressive, they're coming up on what, 50 releases? Plus a boatload of warehouse and bonus discs.

I don't have a problem with the bonuses being things I don't necessarily want, but when they are this far out in left field, it almost seems like they've gone out of the way to create it.

I think this is where DMBLive is failing as a product. They could just load that bitch up with shows. Make it an event, 1 per month, 3 per quarter, something cool to look forward to. But instead, it seems like they are still baiting us, yanking the lure away just as we go for it. Here's our offering...oh, sorry it wasn't for you? Well, you know the next one might be...stay tuned...


While I think they should....maybe not so much FOCUS on it, but at least pay more attention to that series, I do have to disagree about it failing. We've gotten some great shows and windows into the early days of the band, and D&T. If we don't get anything from that series in the next few months, then my opinion may change, but right now I think they've done a fairly decent job.

Jack
03-18-2010, 08:34 PM
Along with 97, we need a lot more 96 and 98. 95 has gotten a lot of releases, but these three need their due. There are a lot of great 96's that have horrid auds.

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 08:35 PM
I do have to disagree about it failing.

Sorry. Didn't mean failing. Meant not living up to its potential.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:37 PM
dmblive is in now way failing, but like a lot of other things management takes on it's half assed which is a shame.

that said, i might be in the minority, but i have no interest in the band releasing every show from their current tour.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:39 PM
Along with 97, we need a lot more 96 and 98. 95 has gotten a lot of releases, but these three need their due. There are a lot of great 96's that have horrid auds.

maybe i haven't listened to enough non-flecktones '97 but if it's just a random july show it's not going to stand out much from a '96 show.

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 08:41 PM
Along with 97, we need a lot more 96 and 98. 95 has gotten a lot of releases, but these three need their due. There are a lot of great 96's that have horrid auds.

'97
'93
'96
'98
'99
'02
'00
'95
'92

In that order, I'd like to see releases shuffle out. Even though '98 isn't as legendary as some people think it was, there are still some strong performances with some not-so-great recordings that deserve a release.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:44 PM
take out '99 and put in '04 and you'd have something there.

Crush87
03-18-2010, 08:46 PM
i know it's happened before. but, i don't think they're picking these songs based on the shows they're thinking about releasing. i think they release shows based on songs they've picked before since they're familiar with the show at that point. i just think it's the opposite of what you think they're doing.

Thats exactly what I'm saying. it's pure laziness. Why release individual songs from a show you plan on releasing later?

Mersh
03-18-2010, 08:47 PM
I'll take a 99 like 5.11 over an 04. There are 04 shows I'd like, but I'd take a 99 like that first.

Crush87
03-18-2010, 08:48 PM
Sick of talking about this shit. What a waste.

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 08:48 PM
I'll take a 99 like 5.11 over an 04. There are 04 shows I;d like, but I;d take a 99 like that first.

yep

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 08:48 PM
Along with 97, we need a lot more 96 and 98. 95 has gotten a lot of releases, but these three need their due. There are a lot of great 96's that have horrid auds.

I think that goes back to who makes the decisions.

There are a lot of things we don't know about the behind the scenes stuff. And most of that, even though we want to know, we honestly shouldn't be privy to. No problem there.

But, when some of the decisions lately have been so curious, it does beg the question, "who is pulling the merchandising strings?" I think the band does have some say, especially when it comes to emotional decisions. They easily could have elected to leave the 8-19 Bartender out.

Is anyone keeping tabs on the boards for favorites? Do they care if anything from '96/'97/'98 gets released? Who knows? I could be completely wrong, but it seems like this list was made by someone who said, here are some of their most popular songs and a couple from the new album that should help drive sales. This looks good.

If the band doesn't want to release some stuff like KTK, CE or GGT because they don't feel comfortable about the songs, okay. But if the specifically targeted fan club disc doesn't reflect the fan club, what's the use?

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:49 PM
Thats exactly what I'm saying. it's pure laziness. Why release individual songs from a show you plan on releasing later?

that's not what i said they were doing at all. i think it's the other way around, but i don't think anyone knows for sure so it's pointless to argue about it.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:50 PM
I'll take a 99 like 5.11 over an 04. There are 04 shows I;d like, but I;d take a 99 like that first.

there are a few great shows from 1999 but it seems like most are really short and slow. there are many more worthy shows from 2004 than 1999 imo.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 08:52 PM
there are a few great shows from 1999 but it seems like most are really short and slow. there are many more worthy shows from 2004 than 1999 imo.

Since we already have 2 04 shows I'd personally like a 99 before we get another 04. I'd like another 04 eventually though.

Mersh
03-18-2010, 08:54 PM
that's not what i said they were doing at all. i think it's the other way around, but i don't think anyone knows for sure so it's pointless to argue about it.

except they are releasing 7.5.97

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:55 PM
Since we already have 2 04 shows I'd personally like a 99 before we get another 04. I'd like another 04 eventually though.

:upyours

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 08:55 PM
except they are releasing 7.5.97

:lol god dammit.

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 08:57 PM
there are a few great shows from 1999 but it seems like most are really short and slow. there are many more worthy shows from 2004 than 1999 imo.

2004 shows were much slower in pace and tempo than '99 with the exception of the last 6 shows of the summer tour and Listener Supported.

StayOrLeaveIU
03-18-2010, 08:59 PM
Sick of talking about this shit. What a waste.

Absolutely a waste. As everyone's already pointed out, this selection is awful. So glad that I paid warehouse to get lawn seats to DC N2 and this epic bonus disc, when I got pit on ticketmaster when they went on sale.

I have plenty of better tracks from the die hard tapers that work their asses of to get the rest of us a recording of what makes us love this band. Thank God for you tapers, because we're obviously not going to get the tracks we want through a live warehouse release if they think this is good, or even acceptable.

And to truly beat the dead horse- Stolen away? Really? Has anyone in the world ever gone to a show thinking, "If I don't hear Stolen Away, I'm gonna lose my fuckin mind!" No. No one ever has.

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 09:00 PM
dmblive is in now way failing, but like a lot of other things management takes on it's half assed which is a shame.

that said, i might be in the minority, but i have no interest in the band releasing every show from their current tour.

Half assed is a good way to put it.

And I don't think they need to go to retail with every show like PJ did. But I guess the point is the business model. Either you hold back material and create the need to buy everything, or you release everything and get what you can. Is throwing up the MP3/FLAC option on a website really that difficult? You've got 16-20-some thousand people per shed show. With proper advertising a fair amount will buy, certainly enough to cover costs. Plus if it was a good show, you'll get a lot of extra non-attendee purchases.

I'm not saying they should do this, but it's an interesting thought depending on how you want to look at it.

FiddySpence
03-18-2010, 09:03 PM
2004 shows were much slower in pace and tempo than '99 with the exception of the last 6 shows of the summer tour and Listener Supported.

i don't remember it being like that, but i don't listen to AUD's nearly as much as i did when that tour was going on. i went to 6-11-99 and it was kind of shitty, and a lot of sets seem similar to that :dunno

DMBCLSTJ
03-18-2010, 09:08 PM
except they are releasing 7.5.97

So it looks like the closed 7 shows in a row (7/3/97 - 7/11/97) with Leave Me Praying and Ants. Our heads would have exploded if this happened now :lol

italy8384
03-18-2010, 09:18 PM
Stolen Away is a filler song, like a midseason episode of LOST. It has no place being on any sort of best of album, which i consider these warehouse CDS to be. I would of rather them re-release the first warehouse disc.

Matias
03-18-2010, 09:20 PM
My thoughts on this:

EH Hee
-Total WTF. How they can release this and snub the 8.26 version with the Roots is shameful. Sure, you have Danny B. but this isn't his shine song with DMB.

YMDT
-Again, wtf? A generic random version from 06 with guests that have shown much better later on. No love for latter-tour versions with Timmy which pretty much make all prior versions unlistenable? If you’re going with a 2006, at least give some love to John D’Earth on 9.22.

Gravedigger
-Despite this being a ho hum song for most, this is a special track due to it being played on the day of Roi’s death and it’s a very powerful performance. However, whether this should’ve been released is debatable because it's SUCH a DOWNER. Listening to Dave’s talk in the intro makes me want to stick my head in my arm and sob my eyes out. Why would I want to revisit the pain?

SA553
-Another WTF. Totally random generic version that is in no way special. Also a total dis to the stellar performances by Rashawn and Tim on this song early in the 2008 tour.

Say Goodbye
-Raised my eyebrow for being a 97 live track. There is no such thing as a live Say Goodbye that shouldn’t be released, so I’ll take it even though there are probably better candidates for this song.

Stay
-This is hands down the worst Warehouse package release pick EVER. There are already 13 releases of this highly unvarying song. The only way this pick could have been worse was to have gone with a version from 2001.

Seven and Time bomb
-More terrible picks. Random versions from random new album songs that hardly vary. How can you decide to release a song from Big Whiskey and neglect the most interesting played live: LITHOG?

All in all, this is undoubtedly the worst warehouse package release of all time. It shows just how out of touch the management is not only with what live music fanclub members would enjoy but also with the CRITERIA live releases NEED TO BE based on when you have such a large breadth of your live repertoire already released.

The fanclub must seriously be on a mission to have its members NOT renew their membership.

I can't believe I'm finding myself hoping that they consult with AM.org on the next one.

**DISCLAIMER**: I love this band and can to a certain extent enjoy pretty much any performance they do of nearly any song. My gripes are in no way with the band or these songs, just shockingly poor selection of this release. I don't mean to tear down the fanclub in any way nor am I not appreciative of it. These are just my honest thoughts on this release that I am sharing to show some insight, not to hate on the warehouse or be bitter about my favorite songs not getting any love.

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 09:36 PM
I'm starting to sound like a broken record...in fact, call me WH8V9. It comes down to who is picking the songs. But here is a less harsh view of it. Most artists don't listen to themselves, correct? And it has been said Dave is of this mindset. Could it be management/whoever is spewing out this drivel is in the same boat? They could be at so many shows and have heard so many versions that it just doesn't register anymore.

But why the hell don't they enlist the guys from the almanac to help? It's an extremely caring and devoted "organization" to the band. I think the work they have put in at least deserves some consideration on one or a couple releases.

SoftMacho
03-18-2010, 09:38 PM
I can't believe I'm finding myself hoping that they consult with AM.org on the next one.
:lol

Fan#41
03-18-2010, 09:47 PM
YMDT
-Again, wtf? A generic random version from 06 with guests that have shown much better later on. No love for latter-tour versions with Timmy which pretty much make all prior versions unlistenable? If you’re going with a 2006, at least give some love to John D’Earth on 9.22.

While I agree there have been much better performances of the song, I do like the importance of this performance. When I interviewed the Flecktones I asked Jeff about this specific performance:


Q: Last summer you performed with the Dave Matthews Band a few times, even jumping on to perform some of their new and unreleased material during your guest performance with the band in Atlanta in mid-August. How was it being back on stage with DMB and how much preparation did you have before performing on those new and unreleased songs?

Jeff: Preparation? Haha…zero. Leroi coming into the dressing room 5 minutes before they were gonna play and saying “wanna play?” and me saying “of course”…haha. That’s about how that went down. He would sing or play me parts before they came up and I would get about every other note of the phrase. I caught some of them pretty quickly but it’s a listening lesson for sure. One I think people don’t get enough of…playing on the fly like that, which has its own set of challenges and rewards.

http://www.weeklydavespeak.com/files/u24/05.jpg

I love the energy of the band and the guys in particular. They are really great people and I think that is what sets them apart in the music world. Not that there aren’t great people out there, but I feel they are very genuine and they care about making music that is a genuine piece of themselves. That quality is too rare in the music world in my opinion.

It's just neat that there was a performance Roi asked Jeff to be a part of and it would ultimately show Jeff's enthusiasm playing with this band, not knowing a single note but learning the structure from Roi and just playing with the band. And of course...then we move to 2 years later in July of 2008 and he(Jeff) had to take on that role by himself, well...alongside Rashawn of course but you catch my drift.

I don't mean to make it sound like this is an amazing performance or even a saving grace of this pathetic WH release, but at the very least...it's an interesting pick when you look at historically.

mja271
03-18-2010, 09:54 PM
I use the WH for tix and really do just look at the bonus disc as an added plus. But this is just so bafflingly bad. Who the fuck thought this looked like a good tracklist? I really want to know.

SoftMacho
03-18-2010, 09:54 PM
die trying and seven are the only positives of this release.

but i don't see how this selection is surprising

dmb1981
03-18-2010, 10:00 PM
My thoughts on this:

EH Hee
-Total WTF. How they can release this and snub the 8.26 version with the Roots is shameful. Sure, you have Danny B. but this isn't his shine song with DMB.

YMDT
-Again, wtf? A generic random version from 06 with guests that have shown much better later on. No love for latter-tour versions with Timmy which pretty much make all prior versions unlistenable? If you’re going with a 2006, at least give some love to John D’Earth on 9.22.

Gravedigger
-Despite this being a ho hum song for most, this is a special track due to it being played on the day of Roi’s death and it’s a very powerful performance. However, whether this should’ve been released is debatable because it's SUCH a DOWNER. Listening to Dave’s talk in the intro makes me want to stick my head in my arm and sob my eyes out. Why would I want to revisit the pain?

SA553
-Another WTF. Totally random generic version that is in no way special. Also a total dis to the stellar performances by Rashawn and Tim on this song early in the 2008 tour.

Say Goodbye
-Raised my eyebrow for being a 97 live track. There is no such thing as a live Say Goodbye that shouldn’t be released, so I’ll take it even though there are probably better candidates for this song.

Stay
-This is hands down the worst Warehouse package release pick EVER. There are already 13 releases of this highly unvarying song. The only way this pick could have been worse was to have gone with a version from 2001.

Seven and Time bomb
-More terrible picks. Random versions from random new album songs that hardly vary. How can you decide to release a song from Big Whiskey and neglect the most interesting played live: LITHOG?

All in all, this is undoubtedly the worst warehouse package release of all time. It shows just how out of touch the management is not only with what live music fanclub members would enjoy but also with the CRITERIA live releases NEED TO BE based on when you have such a large breadth of your live repertoire already released.

The fanclub must seriously be on a mission to have its members NOT renew their membership.

I can't believe I'm finding myself hoping that they consult with AM.org on the next one.

**DISCLAIMER**: I love this band and can to a certain extent enjoy pretty much any performance they do of nearly any song. My gripes are in no way with the band or these songs, just shockingly poor selection of this release. I don't mean to tear down the fanclub in any way nor am I not appreciative of it. These are just my honest thoughts on this release that I am sharing to show some insight, not to hate on the warehouse or be bitter about my favorite songs not getting any love.

well said. i agree w everything you said. odd choice after odd choice re: dmb camp.

mja271
03-18-2010, 10:07 PM
die trying and seven are the only positives of this release.

but i don't see how this selection is surprising

at this point i'm used to crappy selections, but these choices just seem so bizzarely random to me in terms of songs and performances. whatever though, luckily we have a million live releases from them. just another missed opportunity to get some cool shit, which is dissapointing.

Dartagnan
03-18-2010, 10:08 PM
I agree with the concept of great Roi moments on a disc. In fact, I would welcome it. But go ahead and say that. If they said here are 8 moments that we feel really show what Roi was about musically and what he meant to the band, I would love that. Even if they may not be the moments I think of, I would appreciate it because the moments were chosen by those closest to Roi.

But to say that there are a couple outstanding moments among the dung, that just doesn't cut it anymore.

batleon
03-18-2010, 10:38 PM
I don't mean to make it sound like this is an amazing performance or even a saving grace of this pathetic WH release, but at the very least...it's an interesting pick when you look at historically.

I agree. At least this pick is somewhat interesting, and given that the Say Goodbye will be on a future release, this YMDT is really the only one I'm even slightly interested in.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 11:19 PM
Gravedigger
-Despite this being a ho hum song for most, this is a special track due to it being played on the day of Roi’s death and it’s a very powerful performance. However, whether this should’ve been released is debatable because it's SUCH a DOWNER. Listening to Dave’s talk in the intro makes me want to stick my head in my arm and sob my eyes out. Why would I want to revisit the pain?
.

It's been mentioned, but this Gravedigger is from the day AFTER LeRoi died.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 11:21 PM
I agree. At least this pick is somewhat interesting, and given that the Say Goodbye will be on a future release, this YMDT is really the only one I'm even slightly interested in.

I remember people harping about the Break Free from the last disc because Jeff "tears it up" and it was "amazing". When I finally heard it, I was stunned by how bad it was. It was sloppy, Dave sounded like shit, and Jeff didn't do anything worthwhile at all. That's why I don't have much hope for this You Might Die Trying. Hell, if they wanted a better performance to showcase Jeff, they could have just picked any from late '08 or '09.

gweeps
03-18-2010, 11:32 PM
I can take or leave Stay and Time Bomb. Stolen Away is almost a jam song it's so meandering. But Roi is nice. Wish the Seven was one from this year. The res are fine. Nice to see another 1997 cut released. What is that? 5 from 1997 now?

Overall the disc is vanilla and not even French vanilla either.

Rowsdower
03-18-2010, 11:40 PM
Eh Hee, Stolen Away, and You Might Die Trying are all songs that became much better (or less awful) from 2008-on, so picking these performances (guests or no guests) seems like a mistake. These performances will not showcase these songs in any meaningful way. Seven and Time Bomb from the 3rd night of the Gorge are risky since his voice was starting to go (not to mention I'm sick of these songs already). Gravedigger and Stay aren't interesting at all. And if the show that Say Goodbye is from is released, it's completely pointless on this disc.

There literally isn't one thing on this disc that looks interesting to me. The last Warehouse disc was pretty bad, but at least I could say "I wonder how that Loving Wings is" or "that's not a bad Too Much". This has nothing going for it at all.

Matias
03-19-2010, 12:30 AM
I don't mean to make it sound like this is an amazing performance or even a saving grace of this pathetic WH release, but at the very least...it's an interesting pick when you look at historically.

Very good point. Worth noting indeed!

Matias
03-19-2010, 12:34 AM
It's been mentioned, but this Gravedigger is from the day AFTER LeRoi died.

Yea, my bad. "Practically" the day he died. :)

brian3641
03-19-2010, 12:41 AM
I don't have anything to add to this discussion that hasn't already been said. I agree that the selections are totally piss poor, but I wanted to post to say that I love how people are writing friggin essays about why it's so bad. :lmao

captainbigeyedpig
03-19-2010, 03:05 AM
I think the most disappointing thing is the fact that because this is a disc made for paying fans, it could and should be much better. Fans could vote for it. Or they could create polls on all the major boards. It's not like this is some bonus disc for an official release. This is one of the "freebies" to "hardcore" fans. If there was ever a disc to appease them, it should be this.

For me, Stay is the biggest sucker punch. While I can appreciate Stay, it's a bummer knowing that, of all the tracks to take from the Columbus shows in '04, they felt Stay deserved it's place. Not that fun Good Good Time in the rain, with some great rain-type lyrics.

captainbigeyedpig
03-19-2010, 03:12 AM
Or as somebody mentioned, that amazing Eh Hee with the Roots.

Or a one of those jammed out Dive In's.

Or one of those really beautiful LITHOG's.

Or even a Jimi with the Prince lyrics, or Watchtower with Stairway. I mean, we're essentially paying near $35 for this disc and some toys. Why not cut the toy and use the money to help pay royalties.

I've gotta be honest, though. This disc is a perfect example of one of the little things about this band that has allowed my interest over the last few years to slowly ebb away.

.Gary.
03-19-2010, 07:30 AM
I mean, we're essentially paying near $35 for this disc and some toys. Why not cut the toy and use the money to help pay royalties.

I've gotta be honest, though. This disc is a perfect example of one of the little things about this band that has allowed my interest over the last few years to slowly ebb away.

1.) If you're staying with the WH solely for the package, then you are in an abusive relationship and must cut ties. Most people have stuck it out with the WH simply based on seniority seating and ticketing.

2.) I agree completely. Band management is certainly not in tune with the fanbase on a lot of things.

sdaltons
03-19-2010, 07:38 AM
if they were going to do two big whiskey songs, why couldn't they at least have chosen squirm, the only song they haven't officially released on cd yet (so i'm not counting the brixton audio rip, thanks), as one of them.

other than that, i'm not all that surprised by this. it seems like each year the picks have gotten a little stranger. can't wait to see what next year's package brings.

bsan83
03-19-2010, 07:58 AM
Even if we were going to go with these songs, it should have been a Die Trying with Tim, Stolen Away from late '08 with Rashawn taking some really pretty fugelhorn solos, Seven from Europe '10, etc.

Fan#41
03-19-2010, 08:37 AM
I remember people harping about the Break Free from the last disc because Jeff "tears it up" and it was "amazing". When I finally heard it, I was stunned by how bad it was. It was sloppy, Dave sounded like shit, and Jeff didn't do anything worthwhile at all. That's why I don't have much hope for this You Might Die Trying. Hell, if they wanted a better performance to showcase Jeff, they could have just picked any from late '08 or '09.

We already have great performances of YMDT with Jeff like the italy release. Again I agree this is just taking up a spot on the disc, but I think the intention of that specific performance on there is just an interesting look back not cuz they thought it was the best performance. I think this release is absurd but that track does make sense.

captainbigeyedpig
03-19-2010, 12:31 PM
1.) If you're staying with the WH solely for the package, then you are in an abusive relationship and must cut ties. Most people have stuck it out with the WH simply based on seniority seating and ticketing.

2.) I agree completely. Band management is certainly not in tune with the fanbase on a lot of things.

No, I'm in the Warehouse for the seats, like most others. Or as I call them, Concert PSL's, essentially the right to purchase seats. But yeah, I've been pretty lucky along those lines, so I don't think I'll bow out.

The point was, with the amount of money they get from us, I'm sure it's more than enough money to pay whatever royalty fee would come with the Zeppelin and Prince parts added in.

I get that most assume it isn't the band not willing to pay, but Prince and the guys left from Zeppelin not willing to give license in the first place. But as far as I know, there hasn't been any confirmation of this. Now I know this is such a small thing, in relevance to the big machine that DMB is. But it's just one more little thing to "get over". At some point they begin to add up.

Which leads me to the second point. All these little things to get over eventually add up. It isn't like I"m going to bail on the band. In my opinion, there is still no better way to spend your money, dollar for dollar, than a Dave Matthews Band concert.

But all the little things that once made me excited about the band, enough to talk about them with friends, or try and get others into them, are disappearing.

On top of that, if the band seriously can't do some of the small things, like include parts of Stairway to Heaven and Sexy Motherfucker on their live releases, then say it. If they can't, for some reason, release a DMB version of Good Good Time (I don't know why, maybe it has to do with DM&F people, who knows?), then tell us. Otherwise it just comes off as them being lazy, and not really caring at all about the fans. Which is just sad.

I mean, somebody mentioned earlier in the threat that we need to be more specific with what we want. I don't see it. I don't know how it gets any more specific than knowing we all crave songs like Good Good Time and Crazy Easy from the '04 tour, or a '97 release. Or a nice Kill the King from '06. Or the most unique Eh Hee (with Roots members). Or songs with Danny Barnes where he actually takes the song to another level, such as Bartender, Stone, or Alligator Pie. Or Bartender from 4-7-02, etc. These threads aren't hidden. They can usually be found on all the message boards within the first two pages, regardless of the time of year. What more does it take to get the message across?

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 01:02 PM
We already have great performances of YMDT with Jeff like the italy release. Again I agree this is just taking up a spot on the disc, but I think the intention of that specific performance on there is just an interesting look back not cuz they thought it was the best performance. I think this release is absurd but that track does make sense.

agreed. we have like 5 official YMDT's from '08 on.

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 01:02 PM
Or as somebody mentioned, that amazing Eh Hee with the Roots.

Or a one of those jammed out Dive In's.

Or one of those really beautiful LITHOG's.

Or even a Jimi with the Prince lyrics, or Watchtower with Stairway. I mean, we're essentially paying near $35 for this disc and some toys. Why not cut the toy and use the money to help pay royalties.

I've gotta be honest, though. This disc is a perfect example of one of the little things about this band that has allowed my interest over the last few years to slowly ebb away.

dude, no one is in the warehouse for the disc.

dmb6743
03-19-2010, 01:24 PM
I'm not a Warehouse member, but if I were, I'd be a little upset as many people here are. Pretty awful looking disc.

JWood
03-19-2010, 01:44 PM
Even if we were going to go with these songs, it should have been a Die Trying with Tim, Seven from Europe '10, etc.
:upyours I don't listen to Die Trying pre-2008, LT13 is still my favorite.

And Seven from 2010 would have been perfect!


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SonofSuns34
03-19-2010, 01:56 PM
can we just lock this thread, I'm tired of throwing up in my mouth when I see it

sdaltons
03-19-2010, 02:04 PM
can we just lock this thread, I'm tired of throwing up in my mouth when I see it
locking wouldn't make it go away

batleon
03-19-2010, 02:18 PM
And Seven from 2010 would have been perfect!

A 2010 version of a song on the 2009 Warehouse disc would have been epic :lol

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 02:20 PM
i don't know how to vote in the poll. saying it's acceptable would be saying the disc looks decent, which it doesn't. saying it's unacceptable is implying i actually give a shit.

Jack
03-19-2010, 02:33 PM
i don't know how to vote in the poll. saying it's acceptable would be saying the disc looks decent, which it doesn't. saying it's unacceptable is implying i actually give a shit.

:lol

dude, you've posted in this thread more than TWICE as much as anyone else. You don't need to worry about implying that you give a shit.

Welsh
03-19-2010, 03:08 PM
Pathetic. Oh well, now there's no reason to rejoin the Warehouse. I've given up 10 year seniority already. What a waste.

Oh yeah, just secured Sect 102, Row C, Seats 1 and 2 for Camden N2. Another reason not to reup.

kylebond13
03-19-2010, 03:09 PM
A 2010 version of a song on the 2009 Warehouse disc would have been epic :lol

lol

batleon
03-19-2010, 03:11 PM
Well I'm glad we're having fun with this at least.

sdaltons
03-19-2010, 03:27 PM
:lol

dude, you've posted in this thread more than TWICE as much as anyone else. You don't need to worry about implying that you give a shit.
:upyours:upyours:upyours

Fiorentino
03-19-2010, 03:27 PM
While I agree there have been much better performances of the song, I do like the importance of this performance. When I interviewed the Flecktones I asked Jeff about this specific performance:



It's just neat that there was a performance Roi asked Jeff to be a part of and it would ultimately show Jeff's enthusiasm playing with this band, not knowing a single note but learning the structure from Roi and just playing with the band. And of course...then we move to 2 years later in July of 2008 and he(Jeff) had to take on that role by himself, well...alongside Rashawn of course but you catch my drift.

I don't mean to make it sound like this is an amazing performance or even a saving grace of this pathetic WH release, but at the very least...it's an interesting pick when you look at historically.

That was a really great read. A few days ago I read a few posts on here discussing the differences between Roi and Jeff's style/contribution to the band. After reading the thread I dug up various performances pre-'08 that Jeff guested on. It really was interesting to compare how their individual musical style contributed to the overall sound of the band. It really made me appreciate the band's decision to fill the void left after Roi's passing with a new element rather than trying to replace him. It is really, really cool to read Jeff discuss his opinion of the band and his relationship with Roi on the stage in your interview. One of the most amazing displays of musical talent and ability I have ever witnessed was Jeff's performance on 07/01/08. Jeff's comments in that interview definitely reflect his ability to perform comfortably on unfamiliar material without much practice. Reading that brings back the memory of going into Jeff's first show without expectations... only to be left utterly shocked by him after the Stone opener.

Pretty much the only redeeming quality of this disc is going to have this track for historical reasons like you said. The band has put out some bad compilations from time to time, but this is definitely the first one that I can honestly say I am only interested in hearing a single track from.. Say Goodbye.

Aside from including both versions of Gravedigger featuring Willie Nelson from Fenway '09, this disc is just about as bad as could be.

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 04:03 PM
.

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 04:05 PM
:lol

dude, you've posted in this thread more than TWICE as much as anyone else. You don't need to worry about implying that you give a shit.

dude, most of my posts have nothing to do with the disc itself and were discussing tours we want shows from, how they pick songs/shows, etc.

Jack
03-19-2010, 04:10 PM
what was wrong with the first post explaining that?

Crush87
03-19-2010, 04:19 PM
dude, most of my posts have nothing to do with the disc itself and were discussing tours we want shows from, how they pick songs/shows, etc.

You go off topic? Never noticed.

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 04:22 PM
You go off topic? Never noticed.

:lol

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 04:23 PM
what was wrong with the first post explaining that?

nothing, but my internet fucked up right when i hit "submit" so i typed it out again thinking it didn't go through. then i decided i liked my second attempt better.

Jack
03-19-2010, 04:27 PM
nothing, but my internet fucked up right when i hit "submit" so i typed it out again thinking it didn't go through. then i decided i liked my second attempt better.

I believe you to be too emotionally attached to this disc to even think rationally at this point.

batleon
03-19-2010, 04:30 PM
Seriously Spence, I think you need to distance yourself from this for a bit.

FiddySpence
03-19-2010, 04:35 PM
I believe you to be too emotionally attached to this disc to even think rationally at this point.

i'm currently drafting a strongly worded letter to Dave Matthews himself.

JWood
03-19-2010, 04:40 PM
A 2010 version of a song on the 2009 Warehouse disc would have been epic :lol

:lol

captainbigeyedpig
03-20-2010, 12:32 AM
dude, no one is in the warehouse for the disc.

Correct. But anyone in it is still paying $35 a year. We get PSL's, a disc, and some dumb gadget or toy.

Either way, regardless of WHY somebody is in it is not the point.

FiddySpence
03-20-2010, 12:35 AM
Either way, regardless of WHY somebody is in it is not the point.

then why bring it up?

you're paying 35 bucks to get first crack at seats and some extra shit mailed to you every year. if you don't feel like you're getting your moneys worth then stop paying for it.

FiddySpence
03-20-2010, 12:36 AM
Acceptable
dissident, Pete, Ruvo


bros.

The Godfather
03-20-2010, 08:36 AM
Whoa. I should comment more on this thread. I've been away from this place for awhile.

DMB1541
03-20-2010, 08:53 AM
I think the disc selection sucks when compared to what could have been picked, but I'm fine with it. I've learned not to put too much stock in these discs.

Mersh
03-20-2010, 08:55 AM
Obviously the ticketing is why people stick with the WH, but it is ok to say this selection of tunes sucks, right? It isn't the end of my world and I have plenty of other DMB tracks to listen to, but this disc is lame. Just don't know why some of these tracks get picked sometimes other than because they want to get the disc out.

JamSession v2.0
03-20-2010, 11:16 AM
(Pretty sweet that materials used are going to be reused at a Montessori school here in Athens...)

... but the song selection could be better.

1t. Dan
03-20-2010, 11:42 AM
holy shit this is terrible

dmb2much40
03-20-2010, 01:50 PM
say goodbye is good, everything else blows.

its like they tried to make it bad. i'm fairly confident they could call up any warehouse member and ask for a track list, which would be better than this.

sdaltons
03-20-2010, 02:26 PM
say goodbye is good, everything else blows.

its like they tried to make it bad. i'm fairly confident they could call up any warehouse member and ask for a track list, which would be better than this.
that's because you'd all AT LEAST say good good time, right?


RIGHT?

EMJohn
03-20-2010, 03:37 PM
The cynic in me suspects that they've decided to intentionally keep these discs mediocre, so as to not outshine the for-purchase releases with a "freebie"

The change in direction has been far too sharp.

It's sad how clear the band/management has made it that they don't give a crap about keeping the fans happy. As long as the money's flowing, they're going to keep seeing what they can get away with.

FiddySpence
03-20-2010, 03:59 PM
yeah we think these songs suck, but maybe they don't. this isn't an objective thing.

Fan#41
03-20-2010, 05:24 PM
But they're not the ones these are directed towards. These performances are supposed to be for our enjoyment and right now I'm fairly certain out of all the WH5/8 releases, there'd probably be 2, MAYBE 3 that the majority still listen to every now and then.

FiddySpence
03-20-2010, 05:37 PM
But they're not the ones these are directed towards. These performances are supposed to be for our enjoyment and right now I'm fairly certain out of all the WH5/8 releases, there'd probably be 2, MAYBE 3 that the majority still listen to every now and then.

well the only way to really please a lot of us is to either let the fans pick, or to at least set up something where we can give suggestions. but for better or worse, they don't do that. given that they don't really know what we want, i don't expect them to hit a home run with these every time. as far as they know, stay was a huge hit so why not give the fans another version of that.

i only brought up the objectivity thing because of people saying they're making these shitty on purpose. that's just a stupid thing to say.

Brer Funk
03-20-2010, 05:40 PM
People look forward to this disc as a chance to get a refreshing break from the current setlist drudgery and dig deep into the catalogue. But instead we get the same stale songs thrown at us. I have zero excitement for this showing up in my mailbox.

Tomacco
03-20-2010, 05:50 PM
I don't really care about this. To be honest, we have so much live DMB releases that there are really only a handful of performances I badly want released at this point and I wasn't expected to have such good luck that they'd put those on here.

A disc like the following would have me equally unexcited:

Best of What's Around (1995)
Proudest Monkey (2009)
Crash Into Me (1997)
Fool to Think (2001)
Two Step (1996)
Lying in the Hands of God (2010)
Typical Situation (2003)
Tripping Billies (1995)

This could be a scary sign of DMB burnout, I dunno. The only disc that would make me excited would need some combo of Good Good Time, Eh Hee (Alpine, Roots), JTR (2006), If I Had It All (WPB 2007), Water/Wine (7/29/08), Sleep to Dream Her (I kinda want one already, since it's so overdue), Stay or Leave (2009), Grace is Gone > Black Water (11/14/07), Recently (4/14/09), Raven (4/14/09), Kit Kat Jam, Sugar Will (8/30/08) or some cool unique performances with guests.

Fan#41
03-20-2010, 05:55 PM
well the only way to really please a lot of us is to either let the fans pick, or to at least set up something where we can give suggestions. but for better or worse, they don't do that. given that they don't really know what we want, i don't expect them to hit a home run with these every time. as far as they know, stay was a huge hit so why not give the fans another version of that.

i only brought up the objectivity thing because of people saying they're making these shitty on purpose. that's just a stupid thing to say.

Yeah I don't think they're making poor choices on purpose. That really doesn't make much sense. But the redlight management do have people who consistently read these boards. You'd just figure after a while it would make sense to find out from them what the general desire is for certain single-song selections for these WH discs. I don't think they need the fans to pick, or make a poll as they did with the WH5 vol. II. It could take all but 20 min of reading any one of the DMB boards to figure out what we're really craving ya know.

While I do like the element of surprise and maybe them digging up some jewel we didn't know about or overlooked, I think they're starting to get a bit carried away with that idea. They should just give in, for once, and pick the performances we talk about on a daily basis on any number of DMB sites or blogs, whatever. Ya know. I just don't think it'd be that hard for them to do.

Tomacco
03-20-2010, 06:01 PM
I kind of respect these choices for the oddness of the song selections. For me, Say Goodbye is the most boring part of this list because I have more than enough versions of the song already (and we've seen it before on the first WH disc).

FiddySpence
03-20-2010, 07:05 PM
While I do like the element of surprise and maybe them digging up some jewel we didn't know about or overlooked, I think they're starting to get a bit carried away with that idea. They should just give in, for once, and pick the performances we talk about on a daily basis on any number of DMB sites or blogs, whatever. Ya know. I just don't think it'd be that hard for them to do.

definitely. there are instances every now and then where they show they do listen to us. 12-31-96 is a good example.

FiddySpence
03-20-2010, 07:07 PM
I don't really care about this. To be honest, we have so much live DMB releases that there are really only a handful of performances I badly want released at this point and I wasn't expected to have such good luck that they'd put those on here.
.

hit the nail on the head. it's just not wort it to get worked up over one disc of bad material when we have over a hundred cd's worth of live music from them.

Mersh
03-20-2010, 08:00 PM
I think "worked up" has to be considered within its context. I'd bet that someone making even the most hyperbolic statement about this disc is still going on about their life as usual.

Anyway, it would be nice to see these discs feature stand out tracks from shows that really don't need a full release otherwise. Obviously it is tracks out of a hat though. I am not planning an attack on the WH because of it though.

dissident is like the bizzaro NiCK in this thread.

Jack
03-20-2010, 08:02 PM
dissident is like the bizzaro NiCK in this thread.

hopefully you're not implying he gives a shit about this release?

Poth Ead
03-20-2010, 08:03 PM
I'm pretty happy to get (hopefully) a nice mix of Time Bomb. I'm sure I'll listen to Seven and Say Bye - but it's a pretty shitty selection over all.

I really enjoy Eh Hee so I was happy when I first glanced at the track list, but then released they didn't select the performance with The Roots. Danny Barnes? Corn Bread, yes. Eh Hee? No banjo needed

JWood
03-20-2010, 10:56 PM
it's pretty surprising how bad the last two Warehouse discs are now, especially with how well Live Trax 2008 was.

captainbigeyedpig
03-21-2010, 02:45 AM
then why bring it up?

you're paying 35 bucks to get first crack at seats and some extra shit mailed to you every year. if you don't feel like you're getting your moneys worth then stop paying for it.

I brought it up because my point was that $35.00 per year, considering what we get, is more than enough to cover any royalty fee (per person) for using the Prince and Zeppelin stuff. That's all.

If you're going to take issue with my posts, please attempt to read them fully.

27Ravens
03-21-2010, 03:31 AM
terrible. just fucking terrible. Die Trying from 2006!? Stolen Away? Stay? Eh Hee? Gravedigger?? Two Big Whiskey songs from the Gorge, where Dave's voice wasn't half decent? Fuck.
Seven from the Gorge last year was a nightmare

TwoStepN34
03-21-2010, 12:54 PM
Seven from the Gorge last year was a nightmareWhat was so horrible about them? I remember loving it every single night.

Tomacco
03-21-2010, 12:55 PM
What was so horrible about them? I remember loving it every single night.

Yeah I don't remember anything being wrong with any of the Sevens.

NiCK Crush
03-21-2010, 01:03 PM
dissident is like the bizzaro NiCK in this thread.

I wouldn't give him that much credit.

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 02:13 PM
well musictoday has nothing to do with the warehouse picks, so you don't have any obligation to defend this.

DMBCLSTJ
03-21-2010, 02:16 PM
well musictoday has nothing to do with the warehouse picks, so you don't have any obligation to defend this.

:lol zing

drh424s
03-21-2010, 02:18 PM
who in the hell seriously thinks this is acceptable? i'm confused

sdaltons
03-21-2010, 02:32 PM
who in the hell seriously thinks this is acceptable? i'm confused
these people do:

dissident (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=1156), DMB1541 (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=4192), JimyThang (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=4206), last72stop (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=9098), Pete (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=2514), Ruvo (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=4784), sneaksbeac (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=8409), Tomacco (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=2322), wantwingy (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=83)

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 02:34 PM
:upyours

ethaxton
03-21-2010, 02:35 PM
Jesus, I was pretty drunk when i got this email about the picks and just got around to look at it again. Had thought it was just a bad dream

drh424s
03-21-2010, 02:55 PM
these people do:

dissident (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=1156), DMB1541 (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=4192), JimyThang (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=4206), last72stop (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=9098), Pete (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=2514), Ruvo (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=4784), sneaksbeac (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=8409), Tomacco (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=2322), wantwingy (http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/member.php?u=83)


good god, you've got to be kidding me

Tomacco
03-21-2010, 03:18 PM
good god, you've got to be kidding me

Meh. This poll just strikes me as a typical DMB fanatic overreaction. I posted Acceptable because the thought of me standing up and declaring "this tracklisting is UNACCEPTABLE!" seemed silly, and made me think that if I was actually bothered by this I'd need to reevaluate my priorities in life. Come on guys, it's a bonus CD. Who among you is still in the WH for any of the pithy crappy merchandise they give out?

This CD might be a wasted opportunity, but there's plenty more where that came from. You'll forget about it next week when the next Live Trax or DMBLive is announced.

sdaltons
03-21-2010, 03:20 PM
if wantwingy had cast his vote before me, i probably would have rethought mine

drh424s
03-21-2010, 03:26 PM
Meh. This poll just strikes me as a typical DMB fanatic overreaction. I posted Acceptable because the thought of me standing up and declaring "this tracklisting is UNACCEPTABLE!" seemed silly, and made me think that if I was actually bothered by this I'd need to reevaluate my priorities in life. Come on guys, it's a bonus CD. Who among you is still in the WH for any of the pithy crappy merchandise they give out?

This CD might be a wasted opportunity, but there's plenty more where that came from. You'll forget about it next week when the next Live Trax or DMBLive is announced.

just because we may not care about the membership packages doesn't make it good, acceptable business practice just to select whatever random things and throw them on a cd

Tomacco
03-21-2010, 03:33 PM
just because we may not care about the membership packages doesn't make it good, acceptable business practice just to select whatever random things and throw them on a cd

It's not acceptable business practice to pick 8 DMB songs from different years and put them on a membership disc which has always featured 5-8 DMB songs from different years? Nothing wrong there as far as I can tell. You, and everyone else, just don't like the choices. Nobody ever likes all the choices though. To me this is ridiculous because we are talking about totally subjective things. This won't be a favorite disc for me either, but I accept the fact that DMB has made a few bad songs, and their performances have ranged in my liking over the years, and a compilation of different songs from different years won't always have my favorite stuff.

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 03:37 PM
just because we may not care about the membership packages doesn't make it good, acceptable business practice just to select whatever random things and throw them on a cd

acceptable business practice? you have got to be kidding me. just because you think these songs suck doesn't mean there aren't people out there who are going to like this disc. they don't owe you anything more than a disc with some live tracks on it. if the songs aren't up to your personal standards, tough shit.

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 03:37 PM
this might be the only time i can think of that tomacco and i see completely eye to eye.

ThememanXX
03-21-2010, 03:44 PM
the tracklist blows, let's just move on

Nova Scotia
03-21-2010, 03:56 PM
acceptable business practice? you have got to be kidding me. just because you think these songs suck doesn't mean there aren't people out there who are going to like this disc. they don't owe you anything more than a disc with some live tracks on it. if the songs aren't up to your personal standards, tough shit.
i can agree with this. i guess people are a little tired of the WH not going a bit above/beyond for the fans. i would "assume" they have the means and resources available to allow fans to DL their own 8 tracks from an extensive database of shows.

i just put the discs on my ipod on shuffle and run anyway.

drh424s
03-21-2010, 04:43 PM
acceptable business practice? you have got to be kidding me. just because you think these songs suck doesn't mean there aren't people out there who are going to like this disc. they don't owe you anything more than a disc with some live tracks on it. if the songs aren't up to your personal standards, tough shit.


i think it's pretty apparent most people don't like it. How many years in a row have they done this?? Two years in a row with crap songs (that a majority don't like) . . other versions back with botched/messed up songs . . again, if it's just "a disc with some live tracks", it must be ok for them to send it to the members who pay for it (who cares if the songs are good or even played correctly), right?

good god I hope you don't run a business some day

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 04:57 PM
i think it's pretty apparent most people don't like it. How many years in a row have they done this?? Two years in a row with crap songs (that a majority don't like) . . other versions back with botched/messed up songs . . again, if it's just "a disc with some live tracks", it must be ok for them to send it to the members who pay for it (who cares if the songs are good or even played correctly), right?

good god I hope you don't run a business some day

the sense of entitlement is perhaps the worst thing about this fan base.

Fan#41
03-21-2010, 07:28 PM
i think it's pretty apparent most people don't like it. How many years in a row have they done this?? Two years in a row with crap songs (that a majority don't like) . . other versions back with botched/messed up songs . . again, if it's just "a disc with some live tracks", it must be ok for them to send it to the members who pay for it (who cares if the songs are good or even played correctly), right?

good god I hope you don't run a business some day

The problem with the last disc wasn't so much the song selections rather it was the selected performances. There are at least a dozen versions of Rapunzel I would have chosen for the last WH disc before the one they chose(C'ville '06).

What I think is a better grasp at your argument would be the idea of more interesting merch thrown into these packages. It would be neat if they threw in 100 or 200 signed/autographed posters, DVD's, CD's, etc... into random packages. I mean, your $30 a year gets you first crack at tickets which is the highest and most obvious alluring factor, but you're not guaranteed great seats, or even guaranteed seats at all, even if you're a '98 member as many have been declined over the years. So maybe something else thrown at the fans would bode well for their intentions.

In my opinion, the toy trinkets they dish out every year almost have a mocking feel when you look at it in the sense that you're a loyal fan for so many years. {hey, you've bought DVD's, CD's, tickets, etc... for over 10 years....here's a deck of cards and some coasters.} I don't want to say it's insulting because at least they're doing something for the fans, and they don't really owe us anything but if they already have a system operating of making it seem like they are rewarding fans...then I think they should try a little bit harder. Again, they don't have to do anything but these kiddie stocking stuffers seem like the bare minimum as to what they could do, imo.

NiCK Crush
03-21-2010, 07:43 PM
well musictoday has nothing to do with the warehouse picks, so you don't have any obligation to defend this.

:lol zing

Yea, I wish this was just a Live EP for sale.

MaLaKaS
03-21-2010, 08:10 PM
They honestly should just stop the discs next year and try a different gift to give us for the package. After the past two years, there is just no point anymore with this cd. It's an outdated idea that was great before Live Trax began, but it doesn't serve a great purpose anymore. Any ideas on what else they can do instead?

Tomacco
03-21-2010, 08:11 PM
They honestly should just stop the discs next year and try a different gift to give us for the package. After the past two years, there is just no point anymore with this cd. It's an outdated idea that was great before Live Trax began, but it doesn't serve a great purpose anymore. Any ideas on what else they can do instead?

I'd prefer if they made it 10 tracks and just a digital download. Don't need these CDs.

stirstick
03-21-2010, 08:22 PM
it's acceptable because they can do whatever they want, but it's unacceptable because this is the one place that they really should be throwing the hardcore fans a bone, and it wouldn't really be that hard

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 08:23 PM
They honestly should just stop the discs next year and try a different gift to give us for the package. After the past two years, there is just no point anymore with this cd. It's an outdated idea that was great before Live Trax began, but it doesn't serve a great purpose anymore. Any ideas on what else they can do instead?

eh, i'd still like to see them give out random tracks every year. we don't always get bonus discs with releases when we expect them. i'm surprised they still send actual cd's though, you'd think they switch to digital downloads.

MaLaKaS
03-21-2010, 08:25 PM
eh, i'd still like to see them give out random tracks every year. we don't always get bonus discs with releases when we expect them. i'm surprised they still send actual cd's though, you'd think they switch to digital downloads.

Yea I understand. Maybe next year will bring better.

Fan#41
03-21-2010, 08:30 PM
They honestly should just stop the discs next year and try a different gift to give us for the package. After the past two years, there is just no point anymore with this cd. It's an outdated idea that was great before Live Trax began, but it doesn't serve a great purpose anymore. Any ideas on what else they can do instead?

How is it outdated? Live Trax, DMBLive, in-store releases are all full shows. With the WH discs we have the chance of securing some single-song performances from over the years. While I agree the last two have failed, the idea of this compilation is definitely not outdated.

MaLaKaS
03-21-2010, 08:44 PM
How is it outdated? Live Trax, DMBLive, in-store releases are all full shows. With the WH discs we have the chance of securing some single-song performances from over the years. While I agree the last two have failed, the idea of this compilation is definitely not outdated.

I totally agree with you, if they do that, but over the past two years they haven't. If they are gonna just throw random tracks on a cd which don't highlight anything unique or exceptionally well, then I can get those same songs on their other full show releases. That's where I got the term "outdated" from. You know what I mean? However, if they actually do what you just said above, then it is still relevant to me. I hope this clears things up more.

NiCK Crush
03-21-2010, 08:46 PM
I look forward to the Warehouse discs every year. They definitely need to keep including them in the packages. The last few years, the discs haven't been all that great but there is always next year.

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 08:53 PM
I totally agree with you, if they do that, but over the past two years they haven't. If they are gonna just throw random tracks on a cd which don't highlight anything unique or exceptionally well, then I can get those same songs on their other full show releases. That's where I got the term "outdated" from. You know what I mean? However, if they actually do what you just said above, then it is still relevant to me. I hope this clears things up more.

you've managed to confuse me even more.

MaLaKaS
03-21-2010, 08:56 PM
you've managed to confuse me even more.

:lol my bad, which part?

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 09:05 PM
:lol my bad, which part?

"If they are gonna just throw random tracks on a cd which don't highlight anything unique or exceptionally well, then I can get those same songs on their other full show releases. That's where I got the term "outdated" from. You know what I mean?"

i think you're just using outdated wrong.

MaLaKaS
03-21-2010, 09:08 PM
"If they are gonna just throw random tracks on a cd which don't highlight anything unique or exceptionally well, then I can get those same songs on their other full show releases. That's where I got the term "outdated" from. You know what I mean?"

i think you're just using outdated wrong.

Yea, I should have probably replaced "outdated" with "useless" instead. Good call

drh424s
03-21-2010, 09:35 PM
the sense of entitlement is perhaps the worst thing about this fan base.

:lol:lol:lol oh jesus christ

batleon
03-21-2010, 09:40 PM
Thread title :lol

sdaltons
03-21-2010, 09:42 PM
No kidding. Spence go outside. The weather sucks but there are stll decent things to do in stl. You need a break from here for awhile.

ThememanXX
03-21-2010, 09:44 PM
antsmarching.org is the worst thing about this fan base.

fixed

brian3641
03-21-2010, 09:46 PM
Title change FTW! :lmao

FiddySpence
03-21-2010, 10:24 PM
No kidding. Spence go outside. The weather sucks but there are stll decent things to do in stl. You need a break from here for awhile.

i only post because i know it upsets you the most.

well you and that jdub dude.

italy8384
03-21-2010, 11:09 PM
They should just put 5 random shows up and each member can digitally download one of them. Don't bother wasting money making CDs and on postage, everything is digital these days. Nobody cares about the picture either. Do you think more members would rather that instead? It would also cut down on complaints about members receiving packages months later than others.

Crush87
03-21-2010, 11:24 PM
They should just put 5 random shows up and each member can digitally download one of them. Don't bother wasting money making CDs and on postage, everything is digital these days. Nobody cares about the picture either. Do you think more members would rather that instead? It would also cut down on complaints about members receiving packages months later than others.

That's essentially DMBLive. What should happen, a novel idea, they should carefully select 5 unique songs/performances that the oft overlooked "hardcore" fanbase would be interested in. I cannot fathom what use they believe a disc like this holds.

NiCK Crush
03-22-2010, 12:10 AM
I cannot fathom what use they believe a disc like this holds.

I'm sure a lot of people will like this just fine, which is unfortunate.

sdaltons
03-22-2010, 07:33 AM
i only post because i know it upsets you the most.

well you and that jdub dude.
doesn't upset me at all. i just like to read what other people have to say sometimes, and not always have every single conversation dominated by you.