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DMBZeppelin
04-18-2013, 06:12 PM
http://warehouse.shop.musictoday.com/Dept.aspx?cp=6_61119

Overview from the store:

We have selected DMB's 2006 tour opening show in Maryland Heights, MO for our 25th Live Trax release. This show represents Rashawn's first show as a touring member and showcases the synergy between him and LeRoi. Highlights include an energetic Granny as a show opener and, in our opinion, one of the best live Grey Streets out there! This era catches the band honing in and experimenting with the "new songs" of Stand Up such as Louisiana Bayou and Hunger For the Great Light and newer pieces like Sister which came after the sessions for that album. Some rarer tunes, Raven and Don’t Burn the Pig, make this a show we think you'll love.

Please note - This item is available for pre-order. Live Trax 25 will be released on May 21, 2013. All items in your order will ship on or around May 17, 2013. Digital album will be available to download on May 21, 2013.


Setlist

Granny
Grey Street
One Sweet World
Raven
Crash Into Me
Hunger for the Great Light
Pantala Naga Pampa »
Rapunzel
Steady As We Go
Smooth Rider
JTR
Grace Is Gone
Jimi Thing
Proudest Monkey »
Satellite
Pig
Everyday
-----------------------------------
Sister
Loving Wings [tease]
Where Are You Going
Louisiana Bayou

ThememanXX
04-18-2013, 06:13 PM
Very hot and cold on this set. Could be better, could be worse.

Crumbo
04-18-2013, 06:14 PM
Butch! :rolleyes

sean52692
04-18-2013, 06:14 PM
Oh god, why?

This was the show that had the Granny released a couple weeks ago

snyddogg430
04-18-2013, 06:14 PM
What is there to experiment with on Hunger? How loud everyone is at the end?

AndyB
04-18-2013, 06:15 PM
Surprise! It's 5/30/06, as we all suspected (knew) it would be.

They could have done worse, but they could have done much, much better for 2006. I love how they're trying to talk up Bayou, Hunger, and (FFS, again??) Sister as highlights.

FiddySpence
04-18-2013, 06:15 PM
This is hilarious

AndyB
04-18-2013, 06:15 PM
Butch! :rolleyes

So much for the great Butch conspiracy.

FiddySpence
04-18-2013, 06:16 PM
Surprise! It's 5/30/06, as we all suspected (knew) it would be.

They could have done worse, but they could have done much, much better for 2006. I love how they're trying to talk up Bayou, Hunger, and (FFS, again??) Sister as highlights.

I forget, what hinted at this?

KerwinMcgee
04-18-2013, 06:16 PM
They pick this as the 06 show over Camden N2? Wtf

FiddySpence
04-18-2013, 06:17 PM
So much for the great Butch conspiracy.

About the only good to come from this

JWood
04-18-2013, 06:17 PM
I forget, what hinted at this?

The free track if you re-tweeted about the Summer Tour.

abw123
04-18-2013, 06:18 PM
What a turd. Noblesville N1 a few days later is a much better looking set. Why not a 2006 show that at least has the new tunes from that year? Plus opening night of any tour is a bad idea. See LT4 for proof

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:18 PM
I could care less about this release, but the only good thing about it is that this Butch ban is finally a non-issue. What a bad choice though....they should have just bundled this in the the Warehouse packages because I doubt it will sell well.

JWood
04-18-2013, 06:19 PM
Looking forward to JTR, Raven & Pig from this show. That's about it. If they were going to do a '06 show they could've at least picked one with the new tunes, perhaps one of the Charlottesville or Burgettstown shows.

DMBZeppelin
04-18-2013, 06:19 PM
I'd rather they pick Deer Creek with the Idea of You if they wanted early 06.

JWood
04-18-2013, 06:20 PM
First Sister at a full band show!!!

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:21 PM
I wonder if either this release or LT 10 will be considered the worst the worst LT.

Jack
04-18-2013, 06:21 PM
Yawn, next.

KerwinMcgee
04-18-2013, 06:22 PM
Camden N2 2006.. That run in the middle was sick ..

One Sweet World
What Would You Say
Can't Stop
Crush
If I Had It All
Raven
Say Goodbye
Dancing Nancies :segue
Warehouse
Typical Situation
Tripping Billies
JTR
Smooth Rider
What You Are
Everyday
Stay (Wasting Time)
Encore:
Two Step

abw123
04-18-2013, 06:22 PM
Godawful encore

Tambourine Man
04-18-2013, 06:22 PM
What a crappy encore

sean52692
04-18-2013, 06:22 PM
So it's an 06 show without IOY, Shotgun, Kill The King and Break Free?

Also might be one of the worst encores ever....when Bayou is the best of the 3

AndyB
04-18-2013, 06:23 PM
I wonder if either this release or LT 10 will be considered the worst the worst LT.

10 is bad, but this is worse. It's not even close.

JustinC
04-18-2013, 06:23 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxmddiTohg1r3ovdbo1_500.gif

AndyB
04-18-2013, 06:24 PM
They pick this as the 06 show over Camden N2? Wtf

Camden N2 2006.. That run in the middle was sick ..

One Sweet World
What Would You Say
Can't Stop
Crush
If I Had It All
Raven
Say Goodbye
Dancing Nancies :segue
Warehouse
Typical Situation
Tripping Billies
JTR
Smooth Rider
What You Are
Everyday
Stay (Wasting Time)
Encore:
Two Step

Look, it's not Camden N2, so I don't see what the point of this is. We all know there are at least 30 better choices from 2006.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:24 PM
I hope they make nothing off of this release and see how well they did with LT 23 & 24.

FiddySpence
04-18-2013, 06:26 PM
Look, it's not Camden N2, so I don't see what the point of this is. We all know there are at least 30 better choices from 2006.

Well that's being far too kind to that tour

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:27 PM
Here's the show notes:

This is the third year in a row DMB has started their summer tour in St. Louis.
First time Granny has opened a show since 7.20.04.
First time Raven has been played since 10.24.02. First time full band since 7.29.02.
First time Grace Is Gone has been played since 9.5.04.
First time Proudest Monkey has been played since 4.1.03 and first time full band since 9.8.02.
First time Everyday has closed the set since 8.31.04.

Thrawn
04-18-2013, 06:28 PM
I dunno. It's really unlike anything they've released lately, I'm happy to give it a listen. Shrug.

But then, I'm a huge Butch fan, and it's been a long damn time.

sean52692
04-18-2013, 06:31 PM
I am excited for JTR, Grace, Pig, Rapunzel and Grey Street, I suppose.

Rowsdower
04-18-2013, 06:32 PM
Too bad it's not Hershey from '06.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:37 PM
This is why auds are the better choice. We have almost every DMB show at our disposal, so there isn't any complaining as to which show you want to listen to. Love that we have a choice :)

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:38 PM
Too bad it's not Hershey from '06.

They're saving Hershey for their 2005 release.

JustinC
04-18-2013, 06:39 PM
They're saving Hershey for their 2005 release.

BigVodka would be ecstatic for that.

DMB1541
04-18-2013, 06:41 PM
Happy for another JTR

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 06:43 PM
What does Ants have to say about this release???

Thrawn
04-18-2013, 06:45 PM
I am excited for JTR, Grace, Pig, Rapunzel and Grey Street, I suppose.

Raven?

sean52692
04-18-2013, 06:46 PM
Raven?

Ah, yes of course.

BrokenThings
04-18-2013, 06:48 PM
Yawn, next.

yup pretty much

BrokenThings
04-18-2013, 06:49 PM
Only thing savings this is it being a Butch era show, and lets pray to god he is mixed well.

gweeps
04-18-2013, 06:50 PM
Too bad that Granny wasn't just a friendly one-off.

torres
04-18-2013, 06:55 PM
This pick :lol

mjf
04-18-2013, 06:57 PM
Cool for fans of this era but I won't even illegally download this.

Welsh
04-18-2013, 06:58 PM
Camden N2 2006.. That run in the middle was sick ..

One Sweet World
What Would You Say
Can't Stop
Crush
If I Had It All
Raven
Say Goodbye
Dancing Nancies :segue
Warehouse
Typical Situation
Tripping Billies
JTR
Smooth Rider
What You Are
Everyday
Stay (Wasting Time)
Encore:
Two Step

That and Hershey were amazing shows.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:00 PM
I mean, seriously, take us hardcore douche bag fans out of the equation, and seriously think about if even moderate casual fans would enjoy this release enough to purchase it. Maybe they were thinking that people would enjoy a release featuring Butch again, but there are many unique shows which showcase Butch and also offer unique performances and songs.

I really think that they cater to their own tastes sometimes, as opposed to what the customer may like. Before anyone jumps down my throat about sounding entitled, I stronly believe that it's us, the hardcore and serious fans, who purchase these releases.

sean52692
04-18-2013, 07:00 PM
That and Hershey were amazing shows.

Deer Creek N1 too.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:00 PM
That and Hershey were amazing shows.

SPAC 2006 as well

Jack
04-18-2013, 07:03 PM
Too bad that Granny wasn't just a friendly one-off.

Yea, how come they couldn't give us any of those Christmas Trax shows first? This just blows.

Since we already have the Granny, what on this makes it worth having since we already have Fenway '06? JTR? Greatest missing verse Grey St ever? C'mon man. Don't make us wait this long for garbage.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:05 PM
Yea, how come they couldn't give us any of those Christmas Trax shows first? This just blows.

Since we already have the Granny, what on this makes it worth having since we already have Fenway '06? JTR? Greatest missing verse Grey St ever? C'mon man. Don't make us wait this long for garbage.

Can we, for once, collectively bitch at DMB management for this one? They are a bunch of jackasses working there and don't know shit about making unique releases and compilation discs. Or, should we just let our wallets speak?

Thrawn
04-18-2013, 07:11 PM
Oh come on. They've released 25 full shows, not to mention the numerous store live releases. I actually approve of the desire to every once in a while pick a totally bizarre one.

Thrawn
04-18-2013, 07:13 PM
I think if I really work at it the numbers of particular tracks and particular shows that I seriously want released are each less than 10. That's pretty amazing. Not every particular show has to be wall to wall fantastic.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:17 PM
I think if I really work at it the numbers of particular tracks and particular shows that I seriously want released are each less than 10. That's pretty amazing. Not every particular show has to be wall to wall fantastic.

I never claimed it had to be. I mean, at least put a 2006 song on a 2006 release :lol. June 2006 was an excellent month and there were so many choices.

sean52692
04-18-2013, 07:20 PM
Can we, for once, collectively bitch at DMB management for this one? They are a bunch of jackasses working there and don't know shit about making unique releases and compilation discs. Or, should we just let our wallets speak?

Eh, give em a break. The last 10 or so releases have been pretty good.

Thrawn
04-18-2013, 07:20 PM
We have the 2006 songs already, too. Would it really make that much difference?

ggies
04-18-2013, 07:23 PM
Stupid. This is why I stopped being a collector of DMB things. This is just more shit they are going to release. Sad that they would push anything with SU songs in it after the 2005 weekend at red rocks shows.

sean52692
04-18-2013, 07:25 PM
We have the 2006 songs already, too. Would it really make that much difference?

True. Don't think we have an 06 Shotgun and there's some really interesting ones, along with IOY.

Mitch
04-18-2013, 07:28 PM
Definitely not an inspired choice. I had hoped it being #25 would have brought us a "special" show, like LT20 did. Oh well.

ggies
04-18-2013, 07:35 PM
I wish we could download individual tracks. I would definitely just get JTR.

The Godfather
04-18-2013, 07:35 PM
Interesting release that's for sure.

Huge butch fan, and hope he is also mixed well in this release.

The Godfather
04-18-2013, 07:38 PM
Only thing savings this is it being a Butch era show, and lets pray to god he is mixed well.

:upyours

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:38 PM
We have the 2006 songs already, too. Would it really make that much difference?

2006 Shotgun and the good IOYs.

AndyB
04-18-2013, 07:38 PM
Well that's being far too kind to that tour

Oh, I'm not saying it's a great tour, but I'd be surprised/disappointed if this was a top 30 show from that tour.

JustinC
04-18-2013, 07:38 PM
Can we, for once, collectively bitch at DMB management for this one? They are a bunch of jackasses working there and don't know shit about making unique releases and compilation discs. Or, should we just let our wallets speak?

It's too bad that they don't have their own Kevin Shapiro

The Godfather
04-18-2013, 07:39 PM
PLEASE NO SHOTGUN. Only if you actually take a Remington 870 to it. Then, and only then, will I support it.

Huff
04-18-2013, 07:40 PM
6/2/06 was such a fantastic show, and was just two shows after this with a debut of one of the 06 songs (arguably the best version of IOY). I'm baffled why they go with this show, which features NONE of the new songs from 06.

Odd pick.

AndyB
04-18-2013, 07:40 PM
Oh come on. They've released 25 full shows, not to mention the numerous store live releases. I actually approve of the desire to every once in a while pick a totally bizarre one.

I think if I really work at it the numbers of particular tracks and particular shows that I seriously want released are each less than 10. That's pretty amazing. Not every particular show has to be wall to wall fantastic.

Conversely, out of like 1200 shows, they've only released 25 of them in this series. Can we not waste time with ones that aren't wall to wall fantastic? Not like we've exhausted all of those.

Not wanting every single release to be thoughtfully chosen is too low a standard, IMO.

AndyB
04-18-2013, 07:41 PM
6/2/06 was such a fantastic show, and was just two shows after this with a debut of one of the 06 songs (arguably the best version of IOY). I'm baffled why they go with this show, which features NONE of the new songs from 06.

Odd pick.

Well, Sister was a new song from 06. And we really needed another version.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:43 PM
Conversely, out of like 1200 shows, they've only released 25 of them in this series. Can we not waste time with ones that aren't wall to wall fantastic? Not like we've exhausted all of those.

Not wanting every single release to be thoughtfully chosen is too low a standard, IMO.

That's actually a pretty good point.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:43 PM
Eh, give em a break. The last 10 or so releases have been pretty good.

Ok fine :lol

sean52692
04-18-2013, 07:44 PM
It's hilarious that they actually mentioned Sister in their synopsis

Huff
04-18-2013, 07:44 PM
Or that N2 Cville in 06. 9/23/06. Yes, the encore was screwed up and Smooth Rider may very well just have ended a few seconds ago, but for those two negatives, there are a great many positives from that show. They crushed Shotgun. Seek Up, IIHIA with Lawlor, Loving Wings & American Baby Intro were all awesome.

Once again...several better shows than the one selected from 06. I agree with Andy...why pick a lackluster one for this series when there are plenty that are almost top-to-bottom outstanding (even in the same tour)?

Mitch
04-18-2013, 07:45 PM
Only thing savings this is it being a Butch era show, and lets pray to god he is mixed well.

Maybe he'll be non-existent in the mix and the Butch conspiracies can live on!

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:46 PM
It's hilarious that they actually mentioned Sister in their synopsis

and "Hunger taking a new direction". I bet Gweeps got wood reading that one.

ThememanXX
04-18-2013, 07:46 PM
It's hilarious that they actually mentioned Sister in their synopsis

It honestly looks like something one of us would sarcastically type up.

ggies
04-18-2013, 07:50 PM
It's funny, they release this type of show when just last month there was that article where the band was talking about how the fans will groan when they play the radio songs and how it's kinda nice they get more involved in the catalog. Well, this show doesn't match up with that statement. None of those fans would want to listen to those horrible songs. The band doesn't even play them anymore.

The Godfather
04-18-2013, 07:50 PM
Maybe he'll be non-existent in the mix and the Butch conspiracies can live on!

I hope not.

mario
04-18-2013, 07:53 PM
This means Butch is touring with DMB this summer.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:54 PM
Maybe he'll be non-existent in the mix and the Butch conspiracies can live on!

Can you imagine :lol

sean52692
04-18-2013, 07:54 PM
and "Hunger taking a new direction". I bet Gweeps got wood reading that one.

For sure. :lol

It honestly looks like something one of us would sarcastically type up.

Ha, it certainly does.

this isn't the first time I feel like I've been trolled by DMB management.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 07:55 PM
This means Butch is touring with DMB this summer.

:lol :upyours

CRUSHsoccer15
04-18-2013, 08:01 PM
Terrible. 6/2/2006 would have worked.

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 08:03 PM
Terrible. 6/2/2006 would have worked.

or Randall's 06 (BFFT) guest spots

DMBZeppelin
04-18-2013, 08:05 PM
Terrible. 6/2/2006 would have worked.
IMO everything on the current release you'd want is in this set:

Dave Matthews Band
June 2, 2006
Verizon Wireless Music Center, Noblesville, IN

The Stone
The Best of What's Around
Raven
Crush
Pig
The Idea of You [Debut]
Bartender
When the World Ends
JTR
Hunger for the Great Light
What Would You Say
Lie in Our Graves
Too Much
Pantala Naga Pampa »
Rapunzel
--------------------------
Sister
#40 [tease]
Ants Marching

DMBTex10101
04-18-2013, 08:06 PM
So they are reprinting this poster for the preorder? Would this be the first time they've reprinted one?

batleon
04-18-2013, 08:06 PM
Ugh, underwhelming for sure.

JustinC
04-18-2013, 08:13 PM
It's funny, they release this type of show when just last month there was that article where the band was talking about how the fans will groan when they play the radio songs and how it's kinda nice they get more involved in the catalog. Well, this show doesn't match up with that statement. None of those fans would want to listen to those horrible songs. The band doesn't even play them anymore.

Well the band saying something in an interview with a magazine and someone in management deciding on this show are two vastly different things.

Mitch
04-18-2013, 08:27 PM
It's hilarious that they actually mentioned Sister in their synopsis

It honestly looks like something one of us would sarcastically type up.

:lol exactly

SonofSuns34
04-18-2013, 08:28 PM
They pick this as the 06 show over Camden N2? Wtf

:upyours:upyours:upyours:upyours:upyours:upyours :lol

MaLaKaS
04-18-2013, 08:33 PM
To be fair, I'll download this show over the weekend and listen to it. That way, I'll give it an honest and fair chance.

gweeps
04-18-2013, 08:47 PM
Oh come on. They've released 25 full shows, not to mention the numerous store live releases. I actually approve of the desire to every once in a while pick a totally bizarre one.Yup. Here's the breakdown of DMB live releases since 1997.

1997: 1
1998
1999: 1
2000
2001: 1
2002: 1
2003: 1
2004: 3 (5 shows)
2005: 4 (5 shows)
2006: 3 (4 shows)
2007: 4 (5 shows)
2008: 6
2009: 8 (9 if you count the Across the Pond DVD)
2010: 7
2011: 7 (8 shows)
2012: 3
2013: 1 (so far)

Jack
04-18-2013, 08:54 PM
What is this list gweeps? It doesn't seem to jive with reality? Because they've clearly released shows from 98 & 00.

gweeps
04-18-2013, 08:56 PM
What is this list gweeps? It doesn't seem to jive with reality?I only counted full band live releases. In-store, dmblive, live trax... and not that partial comp Live at Lakeside from 2011. Tack on the Dave solo live albums and the D&Ts and you add another 11 releases.

Thrawn is correct. A dud now and then is acceptable.

Tomacco
04-18-2013, 08:58 PM
There are definitely a few tracks I will appreciate getting (Raven and JTR mainly, but GiG and Jimi are fine too). But there's a lot of crap on this set, without question. HFTGL, SAWG, Smooth Rider, Everyday, Satellite, WAYG, Bayou, Crash, Sister and OSW will all bring absolutely nothing new to the table. 6/2 just three days later would definitely have been better.

JustinC
04-18-2013, 09:07 PM
Thrawn is correct. A dud now and then is acceptable.

No it's not. AndyB has it 100 percent correct

Can we not waste time with ones that aren't wall to wall fantastic? Not like we've exhausted all of those.

Not wanting every single release to be thoughtfully chosen is too low a standard, IMO.

Jack
04-18-2013, 09:16 PM
If you're not totally miffed by this, you have issues.

FiddySpence
04-18-2013, 09:18 PM
If you're not totally miffed by this, you have issues.

i certainly think it's a shitty show and have no interest in it, but i'm not like mad about it or anything.

i think if you're actively upset over something not meeting your standards that you can freely ignore or not spend a dime on means you have issues.

Thrawn
04-18-2013, 09:23 PM
Conversely, out of like 1200 shows, they've only released 25 of them in this series. Can we not waste time with ones that aren't wall to wall fantastic? Not like we've exhausted all of those.

Not wanting every single release to be thoughtfully chosen is too low a standard, IMO.

This is a fair point, but I don't think it's fair to say this wasn't thoughtfully chosen. It's a tour debut and the first show with Rashawn, that's (albeit mildly) historical. They didn't pick this out of a hat.

I think LT4 was very thoughtfully chosen, even though it's potentially the worst performance and certainly one I almost never listen to.

Poth Ead
04-18-2013, 09:26 PM
this is such a strange choice

Jack
04-18-2013, 09:44 PM
i certainly think it's a shitty show and have no interest in it, but i'm not like mad about it or anything.

i think if you're actively upset over something not meeting your standards that you can freely ignore or not spend a dime on means you have issues.

We all spend way to much time on this band, being annoyed by this release (aka miffed) is to be expected. No one is 'actively upset' about this release. It's just shitty.

Tambourine Man
04-18-2013, 09:45 PM
I remember Raven sounding pretty cool, but this is coming off the 2005 tour so everything sounded cool

brian3641
04-18-2013, 09:58 PM
I'm not mad or upset but this pick does make me go:

http://replygif.net/i/968

FiddySpence
04-18-2013, 10:07 PM
We all spend way to much time on this band, being annoyed by this release (aka miffed) is to be expected. No one is 'actively upset' about this release. It's just shitty.

#teamStefan is clearly "actively upset"

Vincent
04-18-2013, 10:14 PM
Scratch the encore and it's acceptable.

dmb1981
04-18-2013, 10:14 PM
this is such a strange choice

.

Nova Scotia
04-18-2013, 10:17 PM
So done with this band. Ripping up my tickets as soon as they arrive.

sean52692
04-18-2013, 10:18 PM
Scratch the encore and it's acceptable.

Yeah, it'd be barely passable.

So done with this band. Ripping up my tickets as soon as they arrive.

:upyours

bsan83
04-18-2013, 10:42 PM
On the one hand, I get the significance of releasing Rashawn's first full show. On the other hand, there's better from '06, and Rashawn was just so squealy at first...

'06 is such a weird tour. It started off with them really trying to find some magic that, at the time, just wasn't there.

Crush87
04-19-2013, 12:14 AM
Management just does not get it. I understand people being a bit more forgiving being that the last few choices have been good ones, but there's no excuse/room for duds like this. Plenty out there, what's the point in wasting time and money? I guess the answer is that they don't see it as a waste...but it's hard to believe Tucker doesn't understand why this show would excite virtually no one.

#25 was a good opportunity to make it a milestone release of sorts. Should have been a show from Trax IMO. That said, I know lots of people are looking for post '00 so they can leave the real early stuff to DMBLive, but again, plenty still to choose from.

Not angry. Just another in a long line of head scratchers.

brian3641
04-19-2013, 12:41 AM
Management just does not get it. I understand people being a bit more forgiving being that the last few choices have been good ones, but there's no excuse/room for duds like this. Plenty out there, what's the point in wasting time and money? I guess the answer is that they don't see it as a waste...but it's hard to believe Tucker doesn't understand why this show would excite virtually no one.

#25 was a good opportunity to make it a milestone release of sorts. Should have been a show from Trax IMO. That said, I know lots of people are looking for post '00 so they can leave the real early stuff to DMBLive, but again, plenty still to choose from.

Not angry. Just another in a long line of head scratchers.

:upyours Well said.

sdaltons
04-19-2013, 12:49 AM
i was at this show and i wouldn't have even wanted it to be released. the show was fine i guess...up until the encore.

in other news, this will be the 3rd show they've released that i saw, in addition to a few random songs here and there, so cool i guess.

AndyB
04-19-2013, 01:14 AM
This is a fair point, but I don't think it's fair to say this wasn't thoughtfully chosen. It's a tour debut and the first show with Rashawn, that's (albeit mildly) historical. They didn't pick this out of a hat.

I think LT4 was very thoughtfully chosen, even though it's potentially the worst performance and certainly one I almost never listen to.

OK, maybe "thoughtfully chosen" wasn't exactly the right choice of words, but I wanted to say something to the effect of, each show is specifically picked because of its exceptional setlist and performance. I feel like this one was just seemingly grabbed out of a hat.

The fact that it's a tour debut doesn't really matter, especially when most of the songs associated with that tour didn't debut until later. It'd be one thing if it was 6/19/00 or 6/17/04 where it was actually the first live versions of a bunch of songs, but this show doesn't have any real significance that way.

You're right that it's (technically) Rashawn's first show as a full touring member, but given that he had played with the band like a dozen times before this, sometimes on half the show or more, it kind of loses that specialness too.

There's really nothing to get excited about here. It's a waste of a release. If they were popping out 10-20 shows a year it wouldn't be a big deal, but these are still coming out relatively slowly.

Tomacco
04-19-2013, 01:20 AM
Honestly, 5/20/08 kind of woulda made more sense. First show with Tim, really the first show of the new era of DMB.

Plus, I stand by Cornbread, YMDT, and a few others as being standout new performances even now.
For me that was definitely a defining show to be at. YMDT and Conrbread were definitely standout new songs to feel a part of in terms of growth that night. Plus, the full band emergences of SDL and Gravedigger... and Thank You. Overall there was a whole lot of new and awesome stuff in that show, with Tim's re-emergence with the band.

greykitkat36
04-19-2013, 01:20 AM
I don't get why they put out releases like this. Why not shows with rarities that we have no SBDs of? Why not shows with guests?

Tomacco
04-19-2013, 01:28 AM
Worst case scenario, DMB fans give some extra attention to a severely overlooked period of DMB. Obviously 2008+ was a more important and more appealing period of the band, but in retrospect, there was definitely a reason I stuck with DMB during 2005-2007. And from what I remember, 5/30/06 was a show I was definitely interested in downloading at the time. So I dunno why I'd turn my nose up at it now. If anything, this is my chance to reconnect with that period of the band more than ever.

Tomacco
04-19-2013, 01:33 AM
I remember Raven sounding pretty cool, but this is coming off the 2005 tour so everything sounded cool

Listening to the recording now, the song sounds fantastic here.

AndyB
04-19-2013, 01:55 AM
And from what I remember, 5/30/06 was a show I was definitely interested in downloading at the time. So I dunno why I'd turn my nose up at it now.

Perspectives change over time and with more information. I was certainly more excited/optimistic about the 2006 tour on 5/30/06 than I am now. I mean, the fact that the show has "only" 4 Stand Up songs was a dream back then, even if they were 4 of the worst ones.

But with a 20+ year career to choose from, it's just not a period I feel like I need to revisit in 2013.

Tomacco
04-19-2013, 02:07 AM
But with a 20+ year career to choose from, it's just not a period I feel like I need to revisit in 2013.

True but it couldn't hurt. That's more my point. I'm personally, for whatever reason, still totally cool with exploring the darker periods of DMB including shows from 2001, 2005, 2006 and 2007.

JustinC
04-19-2013, 02:22 AM
gif pretty much sums up my feelings on this, not mad, just

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QctjFHfQyJM/UJZy1x_etrI/AAAAAAAABdg/4nKV_2ofY_Y/s1600/wtfjaguars.gif

JustinC
04-19-2013, 02:30 AM
You're right that it's (technically) Rashawn's first show as a full touring member, but given that he had played with the band like a dozen times before this, sometimes on half the show or more, it kind of loses that specialness too.


Besides if they wanna get technical with the whole Rashawn's first show as a touring member thing, it was Jazz Fest '06.

GreyStHokie
04-19-2013, 07:39 AM
I only counted full band live releases. In-store, dmblive, live trax... and not that partial comp Live at Lakeside from 2011. Tack on the Dave solo live albums and the D&Ts and you add another 11 releases.

Thrawn is correct. A dud now and then is acceptable.

but 8.27.00 and 8.29.00 don't count for your list, among others?

Habbs
04-19-2013, 07:46 AM
but 8.27.00 and 8.29.00 don't count for your list, among others?

He obviously forgot two of the best releases, Live in Chicago 12.19.98 and 12.8.98

ThememanXX
04-19-2013, 08:09 AM
but 8.27.00 and 8.29.00 don't count for your list, among others?

I think he means actual release date. As in, the band didn't release a live show on CD in the calendar year 2000.

ggies
04-19-2013, 08:21 AM
#teamStefan is clearly "actively upset"

nah. Not anymore, not since I stopped collecting everything years ago. I just won't buy it. Luckily we have enough shows to choose from official or AUD that it doesn't bother me. It's just sad now. It seems they are too inside the bubble to understand what a good release is. I'll just be waiting to see what the next one is.

mario
04-19-2013, 08:24 AM
there was definitely a reason I stuck with DMB during 2005-2007.


Yes, and that reason was there was some interesting new stuff like IOY, Shotgun, Kill the King, etc. And this release bafflingly has none of that on it.

AndyB
04-19-2013, 08:56 AM
Besides if they wanna get technical with the whole Rashawn's first show as a touring member thing, it was Jazz Fest '06.

First full show. Jazz Fest was like 10 songs.

Nova Scotia
04-19-2013, 09:01 AM
Yes, and that reason was there was some interesting new stuff like IOY, Shotgun, Kill the King, etc. And this release bafflingly has none of that on it.

at least the 6/6/6 show would make sense. they stand to lose money here.

we all know there's fans that will like anything and everything the band does, just as there are some who still hate glenn ballard. but i can't see a demand for this release at all.

i don't purchase that many live releases, but i can't imagine that this will turn any sort of profit.

JimBeam41
04-19-2013, 09:04 AM
:lol

This release is a joke

Whoever has the sig that says, "Let the Almanac pick the LT releases" is 100% correct

Nova Scotia
04-19-2013, 09:09 AM
i'd like to see the numbers for most profitable releases. which year would pull in the $$$?

wasn't there a survey a few years ago? or was that only for "hits" album?

SonofSuns34
04-19-2013, 09:54 AM
how they pick Live Trax now

http://www.fusioninvesting.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/monkey-throwing-darts.jpg

TheNoise
04-19-2013, 10:12 AM
looking forward to not buying this after buying both the D&T LTs last time. hope the number of purchases dropping to shit shows them that we don't want 2006 shit.

JustinC
04-19-2013, 10:23 AM
looking forward to not buying this after buying both the D&T LTs last time. hope the number of purchases dropping to shit shows them that we don't want 2006 shit.

No. We would or at least I think we would take an '06 show, just not this one.

SonofSuns34
04-19-2013, 10:41 AM
No. We would or at least I think we would take an '06 show, just not this one.

6.28.2006 or GTFO

Jack
04-19-2013, 11:57 AM
#teamStefan is clearly "actively upset"

Like, 'locked in the closet petting the ring' upset?

Jack
04-19-2013, 12:00 PM
I mean, no educated fan of the band would pick this release. Ever. After this show happened no one gave a rats ass about it as soon as the next show was played. Even assholes who were there wouldn't choose it.

And even if they think this is the greatest Grey St ever, here's an idea: PUT IT ON THE WH10v1 INSTEAD OF THE VERSION OF TRIPPING BILLIES YOU'VE ALREADY FUCKING RELEASED.

TheNoise
04-19-2013, 12:07 PM
let the hate flow through you

Jack
04-19-2013, 12:11 PM
let the hate flow through you

They knew americans were on edge already after the marathon bombings and they released this anyway. New low Coran, new low.

Mitch
04-19-2013, 12:12 PM
Grab your torches, let's go lynch those motherfuckers!

JustinC
04-19-2013, 12:12 PM
They knew americans were on edge already after the marathon bombings and they released this anyway. New low Coran, new low.

http://www.c-ville.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Capshaw_Ashley-Twiggs1-500x335.jpg

TDunk
04-19-2013, 12:16 PM
Terrible choice

Mitch
04-19-2013, 12:20 PM
#teamStefan is clearly "actively upset"

Like, 'locked in the closet petting the ring' upset?

:lol


So, umm, how long till LT26?

abw123
04-19-2013, 12:22 PM
Does this version of Grace have the hoedown or Black Water? If not, I'm even more disappointed.

Rowsdower
04-19-2013, 12:23 PM
Does this version of Grace have the hoedown or Black Water? If not, I'm even more disappointed.

No and no.

Crush87
04-19-2013, 01:04 PM
And even if they think this is the greatest Grey St ever, here's an idea: PUT IT ON THE WH10v1 INSTEAD OF THE VERSION OF TRIPPING BILLIES YOU'VE ALREADY FUCKING RELEASED.
Yup. A complete waste of the tools they have in place. WH discs are the perfect place for tracks buried in shows that don't warrant release and LiveTrax's are the worst place for full show releases with one or two highlights.

DMBTex10101
04-19-2013, 01:10 PM
Weird to think that prior to this show, Proudest Monkey had been absent for almost 4 years.

It'll be nice to have a more recent JTR . . . that's about it.

What's so great about this Grey Street?

Rowsdower
04-19-2013, 01:16 PM
I vaguely remember this Proudest Monkey sounding really rough - I don't think they intended to play it (it wasn't on the setlist) and hadn't played it in a while. Sounded kind of rusty.

ggies
04-19-2013, 01:18 PM
PUT IT ON THE WH10v1 INSTEAD OF THE VERSION OF TRIPPING BILLIES YOU'VE ALREADY FUCKING RELEASED.

Why are you yelling? Thought you were not angry and invested in this? Don't fucking make fun of me if you post stuff like this. That's reserved for Fifty Cents.

always40
04-19-2013, 01:20 PM
i'm torn cause this is exactly the kind of release i wouldn't buy...but i was at this show...bottom tier show for me for sure
i stopped collecting aud's of shows i've been to, but it's not often that a show i've been to is released

a good friend of mine stopped going to dmb shows after this one actually, lol
he's just a casual fan, but he said he'd had enough after this one

Rowsdower
04-19-2013, 01:23 PM
I'm pretty excited about a Butch-era show being released, but this particular show doesn't represent the 2006 tour well at all. Hershey, SPAC, Camden, Alpine...there were many other better choices out there.

Maybe the next one we'll finally get another '02 show.

Jack
04-19-2013, 01:24 PM
Why are you yelling? Thought you were not angry and invested in this? Don't fucking make fun of me if you post stuff like this. That's reserved for Fifty Cents.

because the dmb camp deserves to be yelled at.

Jack
04-19-2013, 01:25 PM
i'm torn cause this is exactly the kind of release i wouldn't buy...but i was at this show...bottom tier show for me for sure
i stopped collecting aud's of shows i've been to, but it's not often that a show i've been to is released

a good friend of mine stopped going to dmb shows after this one actually, lol
he's just a casual fan, but he said he'd had enough after this one


Please don't buy this. And if you have to because you were there wait until after it is released. Selling one of these on pre-order is too much.

Jack
04-19-2013, 01:28 PM
...

pop quiz hotshot: a street thug puts a gun in your face and takes your wallet & cellphone. He then asks for either your wedding ring or your aggie ring. Which one do you give him?

ggies
04-19-2013, 01:30 PM
pop quiz hotshot: a street thug puts a gun in your face and takes your wallet & cellphone. He then asks for either your wedding ring or your aggie ring. Which one do you give him?

Dude, just stop. I'm not going to talk about that anymore.

SonofSuns34
04-19-2013, 01:30 PM
Weird to think that prior to this show, Proudest Monkey had been absent for almost 4 years.

It'll be nice to have a more recent JTR . . . that's about it.

What's so great about this Grey Street?

Teh energiez

TheNoise
04-19-2013, 01:47 PM
let's start a Don't Buy campaign

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 01:48 PM
Worst case scenario, DMB fans give some extra attention to a severely overlooked period of DMB. Obviously 2008+ was a more important and more appealing period of the band, but in retrospect, there was definitely a reason I stuck with DMB during 2005-2007. And from what I remember, 5/30/06 was a show I was definitely interested in downloading at the time. So I dunno why I'd turn my nose up at it now. If anything, this is my chance to reconnect with that period of the band more than ever.

why would you want to reconnect with that period of the band though?

Dude, just stop. I'm not going to talk about that anymore.

oh i think you will.

.Gary.
04-19-2013, 01:49 PM
This is so stupid.

Mitch
04-19-2013, 02:34 PM
a good friend of mine stopped going to dmb shows after this one actually, lol
he's just a casual fan, but he said he'd had enough after this one

:lol this would be great for one of those "customer testimonials" they have on product pages

sean52692
04-19-2013, 02:45 PM
This show isn't even on DMBstream

torres
04-19-2013, 02:55 PM
Thought for sure we would get a heavy AFTW winter show from last year. Man, this pick :lol

Top 3 worst LT's?

dmbphan41
04-19-2013, 03:01 PM
if you're gonna release another St Louis show you could have picked 9/18/00,9/19/00,or 8/27/02

JustinC
04-19-2013, 03:02 PM
Top 3 worst LT's?

definitely

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 03:04 PM
if you're gonna release another St Louis show you could have picked 9/18/00,9/19/00,or 8/27/02

yep. or even the '09 show.

abw123
04-19-2013, 03:05 PM
I'm totally cool with another 2006 release. Just not this one.

torres
04-19-2013, 03:09 PM
Is this Raven worth a damn, or is Ross squealing all over it?

Mersh
04-19-2013, 03:41 PM
Yikes, bad release.

JustinC
04-19-2013, 03:42 PM
Is this Raven worth a damn, or is Ross squealing all over it?

IMO the Atlantic City Raven is better than this one. On the AC Raven the ending jam is just Jeff. Which I think that ending jam is better without Rashawn.

On this one what LeRoi and Rashawn do is something that when Jeff and Rashawn do it now people complain, but because it was LeRoi it gets a pass. Although in this instance what LeRoi and Rashawn do isn't anything great, it's almost below average for what they are capable of.

Although that's just my opinion, i'm sure some people will disagree with me.

Jack
04-19-2013, 03:42 PM
Yikes, bad release.

This is DMB's response to Spence.

ggies
04-19-2013, 03:43 PM
FB comments from the Official DMB post about the pre-order:

"their best year ever!"

"huge obama supporter...he will not see me or my money at any of his concerts....."

"I whish I were there:("

:lol

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 03:44 PM
This is DMB's response to Spence.

i don't get this one

Monk
04-19-2013, 03:48 PM
What a shitty pick.

Crush87
04-19-2013, 03:53 PM
Somewhat ironic that a band against releasing all of their shows puts so little effort into picking the ones that actually get out there. I guess you could say there was effort/thinking behind the D&T releases - and there was - but a pick like this just throws a lot of credibility out the window IMO.

It's not like this is another Live In Vegas release with shitty music but a venue/city that sells copies to casual fans on name alone. I don't see the angle at all here.

ggies
04-19-2013, 03:55 PM
Somewhat ironic that a band against releasing all of their shows puts so little effort into picking the ones that actually get out there.


Yesir. :upyours

abw123
04-19-2013, 04:08 PM
Maybe it was really well-played? I'm stretching, I know. But even LT10, which is awful on paper, is a pretty well played show.

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 04:09 PM
Somewhat ironic that a band against releasing all of their shows puts so little effort into picking the ones that actually get out there. I guess you could say there was effort/thinking behind the D&T releases - and there was - but a pick like this just throws a lot of credibility out the window IMO.

It's not like this is another Live In Vegas release with shitty music but a venue/city that sells copies to casual fans on name alone. I don't see the angle at all here.

the thing is, we don't know what their line of thinking is exactly.

i just think there are going to be picks that just don't always line up with what a majority of the hardcore fans want. especially when you have a band that has as many, in our opinion, sub par shows scattered throughout their career as DMB does.

i don't know, this release isn't for me, but doubling down on the whole "god the people who pick these releases just never try!" argument seems kind of ridiculous. overall we get more hits than misses and that's all we can really ask for imo

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 04:10 PM
Maybe it was really well-played? I'm stretching, I know. But even LT10, which is awful on paper, is a pretty well played show.

it's a tour opener, i doubt it's very well played.

abw123
04-19-2013, 04:11 PM
Agreed, we haven't a bad release in a long time.

If I was at a show that had 4 Stand Up songs AND all 3 of their big slow songs (Satellite, Crash, WAYG) AND Sister, I'd be pretty displeased.

abw123
04-19-2013, 04:12 PM
Pig, Granny, Raven, JTR, Grace are all cool to get though.

abw123
04-19-2013, 04:13 PM
2006 may have been a worse year than I remember. Glancing through sets today, I see a lot that look like this one with only a few gems mixed in (on paper). At least this one doesn't have Can't Stop and Dreamgirl.

JustinC
04-19-2013, 04:29 PM
At least this one doesn't have Can't Stop and Dreamgirl.

When someone says something like that about a release you know it's bad.

Crush87
04-19-2013, 04:35 PM
the thing is, we don't know what their line of thinking is exactly.

i just think there are going to be picks that just don't always line up with what a majority of the hardcore fans want. especially when you have a band that has as many, in our opinion, sub par shows scattered throughout their career as DMB does.

i don't know, this release isn't for me, but doubling down on the whole "god the people who pick these releases just never try!" argument seems kind of ridiculous. overall we get more hits than misses and that's all we can really ask for imo

The opposite is true though. Here's a band with a relatively endless supply of great shows to choose from. No room for picking duds IMO

And I think it's safe to say there isn't much an angle here at all for the casual fan. So the whole, "it's okay that this doesnt appeal to the hardcore base" is only half the story

Agreed not everything is going to appeal to everyone, and there will be varying degrees of acceptance for each pick, but the shit they do sometimes can be so random that it really makes you wonder what the point is.

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 04:38 PM
"No room for picking duds IMO" that just has this sort of entitled bent to it that may or not be intentional but still just baffles me a bit.

i mean, if it doesn't interest you then don't buy it and wait for the next one. i don't understand, is their a time limit here? their going to keep pumping these things out well after the band is done.

Crush87
04-19-2013, 04:42 PM
"No room for picking duds IMO" that just has this sort of entitled bent to it that may or not be intentional but still just baffles me a bit.

i mean, if it doesn't interest you then don't buy it and wait for the next one. i don't understand, is their a time limit here? their going to keep pumping these things out well after the band is done.

Spence, the difference being that if they released a "dud" from the last tour, we would all understand the intention behind it even though we'd be disappointed with the music on the disc. Duds like this make little sense for anyone in the DMB world.

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 04:52 PM
Spence, the difference being that if they released a "dud" from the last tour, we would all understand the intention behind it even though we'd be disappointed with the music on the disc. Duds like this make little sense for anyone in the DMB world.

i'll freely admit picking this show doesn't make any sense to me. but whatever, so i'll ignore it. there'll be other great ones.

AndyB
04-19-2013, 07:05 PM
"No room for picking duds IMO" that just has this sort of entitled bent to it that may or not be intentional but still just baffles me a bit.

i mean, if it doesn't interest you then don't buy it and wait for the next one. i don't understand, is their a time limit here? their going to keep pumping these things out well after the band is done.

Eh, I just don't buy into any of what you're saying here. There will be a finite number of shows they release, and it's not like it somehow takes more effort to pick a good one. There's really no excuse for being that out of touch with what the fans want and wasting a release like this. I mean why even go to the trouble of mixing a show so few people are going to buy?

It's not a situation where there's a big division in the fanbase and lots of people were specifically interested in a show like this one, but a large vocal minority just isn't interested. It's legitimately a bad pick. There's no "tradeoff" in picking a better show. It doesn't require a sacrifice on their part. I don't think it's entitled to have a high standard, when they're releasing relatively few shows.

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 07:10 PM
Eh, I just don't buy into any of what you're saying here. There will be a finite number of shows they release, and it's not like it somehow takes more effort to pick a good one. There's really no excuse for being that out of touch with what the fans want and wasting a release like this. I mean why even go to the trouble of mixing a show so few people are going to buy?

It's not a situation where there's a big division in the fanbase and lots of people were specifically interested in a show like this one, but a large vocal minority just isn't interested. It's legitimately a bad pick. There's no "tradeoff" in picking a better show. It doesn't require a sacrifice on their part. I don't think it's entitled to have a high standard, when they're releasing relatively few shows.

i just don't understand getting uppity over something that you don't have to pay for and haven't yet paid for. so they punt a release, so what? what does it really matter when you have dozens of great releases already to choose from?

it just stinks of greediness to me.

Thrawn
04-19-2013, 07:24 PM
I'm gonna buy the shit out of this release. Not ideal, but there's enough there for me to be interested.

greykitkat36
04-19-2013, 09:06 PM
To me '06 is such a forgettable year and IMO one of the worst years for the band, down there with '05. rashawn was still finding where he fit and he really ruins rapunz during this tour. I found the grave hoedown thing pretty boring. They had a few new songs that were initially exciting (IOY) and kill the king but other than that it was a very subpar year.

gweeps
04-19-2013, 09:07 PM
Thread hasn't been moved into the Live release forum yet. Guess it's not fit to be in there? :lol

AndyB
04-19-2013, 09:11 PM
i just don't understand getting uppity over something that you don't have to pay for and haven't yet paid for. so they punt a release, so what? what does it really matter when you have dozens of great releases already to choose from?

it just stinks of greediness to me.

I mean, I'm not up in arms or anything, but I don't think disappointment is an inappropriate reaction.

sdaltons
04-19-2013, 11:26 PM
What's the story with teamstefan and some ring?

FiddySpence
04-19-2013, 11:43 PM
he considers his Aggie ring to be a legitimate major life accomplishment and something to boast about.

a few of us find that fascinating.

brian3641
04-19-2013, 11:45 PM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx02c63OY41r0t2oco1_500.jpg

Tomacco
04-20-2013, 02:08 AM
It feels a bit weird to get this release actually since I feel like Fenway (LT6) did a good job covering the 2006 summer tour. This feels a bit superfluous, which is why only Raven and JTR add anything.

But I'm not as harsh on some of the more hated and less released songs on here too - like Smooth Rider for example. Even listening to SR from Fenway right now, I'm digging the jam addition part where Carter and Rashawn go nuts. I've never minded that song though because I think the jam is quality. It's a bit fucked up to me, honestly, that a week ago people were gushing over this new forced part they added to Rooftop, and can't enjoy a good loose improvised jam on Smooth Rider.

Anyway in terms of this period of the band, there's lots I'd still love released (8/26/07, 8/5/06, 8/6/06, 6/2/06, 10/2/07, etc). I think people were too harsh on DMB 2005-07.

greykitkat36
04-20-2013, 05:37 AM
Anyway in terms of this period of the band, there's lots I'd still love released (8/26/07, 8/5/06, 8/6/06, 6/2/06, 10/2/07, etc). I think people were too harsh on DMB 2005-07.

'07 is without a doubt the most underrated tour on these forums. Overall it was a great tour (SUAD return) rarities, piedmont show, West Point and IZod in the fall..cool new songs...I could go on. '07 destroys '06 by miles. I think the harshness towards '05 is very warranted. That's a shitty year, very dissapointing to say the least. Hopefully we will never see a year like that again. You name something good to come from the '05 tour and ill be shocked. Robert Randolph n bayou or smooth rider doesn't count.

soright05
04-20-2013, 08:44 AM
'07 is without a doubt the most underrated tour on these forums. Overall it was a great tour (SUAD return) rarities, piedmont show, West Point and IZod in the fall..cool new songs...I could go on. '07 destroys '06 by miles. I think the harshness towards '05 is very warranted. That's a shitty year, very dissapointing to say the least. Hopefully we will never see a year like that again. You name something good to come from the '05 tour and ill be shocked. Robert Randolph n bayou or smooth rider doesn't count.
6/13/05..

Improv Intro :segue
All Along the Watchtower

ggies
04-20-2013, 08:56 AM
he considers his Aggie ring to be a legitimate major life accomplishment and something to boast about.

a few of us find that fascinating.

Hey, you want to make fun of me for DMB related things, that's fine, it's a band message board, but lets stop talking about it. I mentioned it as some extra detail to why I saw a certain show and why that time in my life was great, I did not brag.

I have no idea what you have accomplished in your personal life nor do I care. I'm here to talk about the band. So if you and others can't drop it, then you really are a douche.

FiddySpence
04-20-2013, 11:01 AM
you don't get to decide what we talk about.

djrogyrog
04-20-2013, 11:46 AM
They probably had a bunch of left over posters from this night's show and figured they could bundle it. That's why it was chosen.

Thrawn
04-20-2013, 11:47 AM
you don't get to decide what we talk about.

Man, you really enjoy being a dick, don't you?

FiddySpence
04-20-2013, 11:51 AM
Man, you really enjoy being a dick, don't you?

it's not the worst thing

Tomacco
04-20-2013, 11:57 AM
You name something good to come from the '05 tour and ill be shocked. Robert Randolph n bayou or smooth rider doesn't count.

9/11/05
#34
Time of the Season
Two Step 6.5.05

MaLaKaS
04-20-2013, 12:01 PM
Anyway in terms of this period of the band, there's lots I'd still love released (8/26/07, 8/5/06, 8/6/06, 6/2/06, 10/2/07, etc). I think people were too harsh on DMB 2005-07.

There are multiple shows from that era that I love and wouldn't mind released. Unfortunately though, this one just isn't one of them.

Thrawn
04-20-2013, 12:02 PM
I think I only ever downloaded one show from the 2005 tour and I don't remember which one. I did enjoy Weekend On The Rocks, though, even some of the Stand Up tunes since they'd evolved a lot over the summer and I hadn't been following that at all.

MaLaKaS
04-20-2013, 12:02 PM
9/11/05
#34
Time of the Season
Two Step 6.5.05

Don't forget Halloween in the snow.

Poth Ead
04-20-2013, 12:19 PM
the more and more I think about it.... they should of selected IZOD 11.30.12... which almost serves as an album release party in a sense... all of AFTW and when you listen to the tape, all the performances of those songs are pretty fuckin spot on, esp Broken Things... so, I think this show would of been nice. Definitely better than 6.30.06 although I have placed my pre order

JustinC
04-20-2013, 12:20 PM
2005 had one of the biggest boner killers this band has done all time

Minarets :segue
Dreamgirl

JustinC
04-20-2013, 12:21 PM
the more and more I think about it.... they should of selected IZOD 11.30.12... which almost serves as an album release party in a sense... all of AFTW and when you listen to the tape, all the performances of those songs are pretty fuckin spot on, esp Broken Things... so, I think this show would of been nice. Definitely better than 6.30.06 although I have placed my pre order

I think that one has a pretty good chance to be the next in-store but I base that on nothing.

MaLaKaS
04-20-2013, 12:23 PM
I think that one has a pretty good chance to be the next in-store but I base that on nothing.

I hope so :upyours. It was my favorite of the 3 shows that I attended this past fall.

Poth Ead
04-20-2013, 12:43 PM
I think that one has a pretty good chance to be the next in-store but I base that on nothing.
I suppose that would make more sense...

Tomacco
04-20-2013, 12:44 PM
I wish Dave didn't botch "Sweet" on 11.30.12 though.

Poth Ead
04-20-2013, 12:44 PM
It was my favorite of the 3 shows that I attended this past fall.
I knew I should of went. Real pissed that I didn't... but the AUD is pretty stellar. Brooklyn was meh so that compounds missing out on IZOD, cause I would of really enjoyed this show a lot

Mitch
04-20-2013, 12:59 PM
2005 had one of the biggest boner killers this band has done all time

Minarets :segue
Dreamgirl

those songs look so ridiculous together :lol

Poth Ead
04-20-2013, 01:04 PM
those songs look so ridiculous together :lol
killed the crowd at MSG that winter night fer sure

DMBTex10101
04-20-2013, 09:54 PM
9/11/05
#34
Time of the Season
Two Step 6.5.05

I think that show is too inconsistent to be noteworthy (unless you were in attendance probably). I understand the significance of the Halloween and again, it was probably cool if you were there, but that Halloween is terrible. I do wish they'd bring back Pig as an opener though.

That got me looking at some other sets from '05 and how about the next night (9/12). I would think it would be very difficult to ruin a set that opens with Recently, Drive and Typical . . . but they managed to do it without even breaking a sweat. 7 songs from Stand Up totaling at right around 70 minutes of song time. Add in 21 minutes of Jimi Thing and those opening 3 songs are easily forgotten. 12 minutes of Smooth Rider . . . :lol

Aside from Time of the Season, Recently and Pig, I never listen to the Red Rocks release . . . what a waste.

I'd say #34 is about the only noteworthy thing to come from '05. Well that and Live Trax 3 (it's a 2000 show, but it was released in '05).

gweeps
04-20-2013, 10:19 PM
Roi did some nice improv work with both Dreamgirl and YMDT.

JustinC
04-20-2013, 10:52 PM
I think that show is too inconsistent to be noteworthy (unless you were in attendance probably). I understand the significance of the Halloween and again, it was probably cool if you were there, but that Halloween is terrible.


Terrible is too nice of a word for that atrocious piece of shit of a Halloween.

I wonder if there are any people that went to that show but didn't go to 9/12 and still have never gotten Typical at a show or haven't gotten since before '05. Has to suck a little bit.

AndyB
04-21-2013, 11:22 AM
I think that show is too inconsistent to be noteworthy (unless you were in attendance probably). I understand the significance of the Halloween and again, it was probably cool if you were there, but that Halloween is terrible. I do wish they'd bring back Pig as an opener though.

I mean, it's a shitty Halloween to listen to now, but it was a pretty great moment at the time. It was the first full band performance in almost 3 years, and only the 2nd one since 1998. (...which is why it was so shitty. We've been spoiled on the song since 2008.)

The rest of the show is really solid, not sure what "inconsistencies" you're talking about. (Obviously, Dreamgirl and the 3rd of 4 Bayous are blemishes, but it was 2005 after all.)

greykitkat36
04-21-2013, 02:14 PM
I'll give you #34 that was a real treat. That's about it from '05 though. That red rocks show isn't even a great show on its own, and even worse compared to shows from other tours. Time of the season is just a cover and while it was good it doesn't make up for the rest of the shitniess.

Mitch
04-21-2013, 02:37 PM
I'll give you #34 that was a real treat. That's about it from '05 though. That red rocks show isn't even a great show on its own, and even worse compared to shows from other tours. Time of the season is just a cover and while it was good it doesn't make up for the rest of the shitniess.

It seems like you're talking about the Weekend On The Rocks compilation as if it was a show, while others are talking about the actual 9.11.05 show (http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056230&tid=83&where=2005) (which had neither #34 or Time of the Season)

batleon
04-21-2013, 05:45 PM
This release is a miss, but I'll admit I think this is their first real miss since Live Trax 10. I do with they'd put a little more thought into it and dig deeper because there really is no need for misses at all. But given their track record this is a pretty big gap between misses on a full show live release so I'm just kind of shrugging this off.

DMBTex10101
04-21-2013, 08:45 PM
I mean, it's a shitty Halloween to listen to now, but it was a pretty great moment at the time. It was the first full band performance in almost 3 years, and only the 2nd one since 1998. (...which is why it was so shitty. We've been spoiled on the song since 2008.)

The rest of the show is really solid, not sure what "inconsistencies" you're talking about. (Obviously, Dreamgirl and the 3rd of 4 Bayous are blemishes, but it was 2005 after all.)

I'm going to give it another listen tomorrow, but I remember being very underwhelmed with the majority of the set, even some of the classics. I remember the You Never Know and 41 being lackluster for sure (I distinctly remember getting this, the second officially released You Never Know and, after listening, thinking "well, at least I still have the one from '03"). Pretty much the only thing I remember liking about that show was Pig. Although, I dig Butterfly every once in a while, when I'm in the right mood.

For an '05 show, yeah maybe it's up there, but, like you said, that ain't saying a whole lot.

torres
04-21-2013, 09:03 PM
I like that Roi is pretty active throughout that version of Pig from Red Rocks.

brian3641
04-21-2013, 11:03 PM
Weekend On The Rocks is pretty great, IMO. There's some really good shit there. Yes, there's way too much Stand Up material, but besides that they play a great number of other songs and I think they're good performances too. Good for 05, anyway.

AndyB
04-21-2013, 11:38 PM
I'm going to give it another listen tomorrow, but I remember being very underwhelmed with the majority of the set, even some of the classics. I remember the You Never Know and 41 being lackluster for sure (I distinctly remember getting this, the second officially released You Never Know and, after listening, thinking "well, at least I still have the one from '03"). Pretty much the only thing I remember liking about that show was Pig. Although, I dig Butterfly every once in a while, when I'm in the right mood.

For an '05 show, yeah maybe it's up there, but, like you said, that ain't saying a whole lot.

I think that's the YNK I listen to most.

Why Missouri
04-22-2013, 01:55 PM
damn. . .if they wanted a STL show that kicked off a tour they should have gone with 6/17/04. First time the '04 songs were ever played plus Gas into Fire

dmbphan41
04-22-2013, 02:02 PM
damn. . .if they wanted a STL show that kicked off a tour they should have gone with 6/17/04. First time the '04 songs were ever played plus Gas into Fire

I couldn't agree more

FiddySpence
04-22-2013, 02:03 PM
eh, the only thing really necessary from that show is Crazy Easy which would be a nice track on a comp cd or something.

otherwise it's just a typical DMB tour opener. short, a little sloppy, etc.

roshea999
04-22-2013, 03:10 PM
Not much to add here, but... I was at this show and sucked. Nice little proudest monkey, though.

Dumb release in my opinion.

MaLaKaS
04-22-2013, 05:07 PM
eh, the only thing really necessary from that show is Crazy Easy which would be a nice track on a comp cd or something.

otherwise it's just a typical DMB tour opener. short, a little sloppy, etc.

Was there a Pig closer or am I thinking 2003?

FiddySpence
04-22-2013, 05:09 PM
they closed the show with Stay. it was lame.

MaLaKaS
04-22-2013, 05:27 PM
they closed the show with Stay. it was lame.

Oh, must have been 6.17.03 then.

greykitkat36
04-22-2013, 05:49 PM
Yeah, just a lame release. I 'd even take an '01 show over this. I really want those '99 Giants Stadium shows released, I really hope that happens sometime soon.

MaLaKaS
04-22-2013, 05:53 PM
Yeah, just a lame release. I 'd even take an '01 show over this. I really want those '99 Giants Stadium shows released, I really hope that happens sometime soon.

Any Giants Stadium show for that matter.

brian3641
04-22-2013, 06:58 PM
6.7.98

Mitch
04-22-2013, 07:03 PM
6.7.98

:upyours

MaLaKaS
04-22-2013, 08:29 PM
6.7.98

This would be my obvious, but I would take 99 & 00 as well. But yes, 6.7.98 would be my top choice.

brian3641
04-22-2013, 08:46 PM
:upyours One of my all time favorites. Love that show.

batleon
04-23-2013, 06:55 AM
I'd prefer 8.7.98 to 6.7.98, but either would be better than this.

ThememanXX
04-23-2013, 09:37 AM
Giants show? My preference is 7/13/00, the show that really got me into the band.

ThememanXX
04-23-2013, 10:13 AM
Also, I listened to the JTR from this show, and while a solid version for the most part, Rashawn butchers the ending with his squealing. I love him now, but man some of those early additions were just plain awful.

Jack
04-23-2013, 10:19 AM
Giants show? My preference is 7/13/00, the show that really got me into the band.

dude sitting next to us at that show was huffing shit out of his hands for most of the set. In between huffing sesh's he would do this insane tribal dancing. It was a lot more interesting than the show. Not only was he attending the show alone, he cleared out about a full row of people who just needed to get away from him and his general vibe. and that is the story of how I met BigVodka.

MaLaKaS
04-23-2013, 11:16 AM
dude sitting next to us at that show was huffing shit out of his hands for most of the set. In between huffing sesh's he would do this insane tribal dancing. It was a lot more interesting than the show. Not only was he attending the show alone, he cleared out about a full row of people who just needed to get away from him and his general vibe. and that is the story of how I met BigVodka.

:lol

ThememanXX
04-23-2013, 11:28 AM
how I met BigVodka.

Sounds like a new CBS sitcom. :lol :upyours

FiddySpence
04-23-2013, 12:31 PM
dude sitting next to us at that show was huffing shit out of his hands for most of the set. In between huffing sesh's he would do this insane tribal dancing. It was a lot more interesting than the show. Not only was he attending the show alone, he cleared out about a full row of people who just needed to get away from him and his general vibe. and that is the story of how I met BigVodka.

lolz

dmb1981
04-23-2013, 01:35 PM
Also, I listened to the JTR from this show, and while a solid version for the most part, Rashawn butchers the ending with his squealing. I love him now, but man some of those early additions were just plain awful.

He still squeals way too much for my liking.

ThememanXX
04-23-2013, 02:58 PM
He still squeals way too much for my liking.

Then you're going to hate this one.

torres
04-23-2013, 03:20 PM
Rashawn really is the worst.

FiddySpence
04-23-2013, 03:21 PM
torres, i'm pretty sure 75% of your posts in the last 2 weeks have been shitting on Rashawn. it's kind of weird.

torres
04-23-2013, 03:34 PM
:lol