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Jack
09-27-2013, 01:57 PM
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Dave Matthews Band
October 14, 2010
Luna Park
Buenos Aires, ARG

Squirm
Big Eyed Fish >
Bartender
Proudest Monkey >
Satellite
Grey Street
Seven
Crush
Stay or Leave
Gravedigger
#41
Don't Drink the Water
Why I Am
Jimi Thing (Sexy MF outro)
Everyday
You & Me
Time Bomb >
Two Step (Time Bomb)
-Encore-
Some Devil
Ants Marching

Jack
09-27-2013, 01:58 PM
BOOOOOurns! BOOOOOurns!

basically 3 duds in a row.

dmb6743
09-27-2013, 02:03 PM
Oh hey great, more live releases of every single song in this set. Anything special about this set other than the fact that it was in Buenos Aires?

I've actually walked past this venue so that's cool I guess?

Derek
09-27-2013, 02:04 PM
Hey just in time for their next South American tour! :rolleyes

ThememanXX
09-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Eh, not like I buy these anyway. Whatever.

Mike VDH
09-27-2013, 02:10 PM
Talk about a standard set. Wow. But I know the reasoning has to be to promote the tour.

ggies
09-27-2013, 02:13 PM
Jimi!!! They got to release it again. I know Dave was really wanting that one on the list.

https://d2nh4f9cbhlobh.cloudfront.net/_uploads/galleries/17508/anchorman-image-1.jpg

Habbs
09-27-2013, 02:15 PM
It may be a somewhat standard set, but it looks pretty listenable and interesting IMO, Y&M and Some Devil aside

JWood
09-27-2013, 02:16 PM
Doesn't look too bad. It'll get the hate now, but a couple weeks after it's out everyone will be talking about how good the performances are, etc.

Jack
09-27-2013, 02:18 PM
Doesn't look too bad. It'll get the hate now, but a couple weeks after it's out everyone will be talking about how good the performances are, etc.

or not talking about it at all like the last two and the montage release.

drummerkrf
09-27-2013, 02:19 PM
Dammit... I was hoping for a SMLAM encore closer.

Habbs
09-27-2013, 02:22 PM
Dammit... I was hoping for a SMLAM encore closer.

As much as I wouldn't actually like that much at a show, it would fit this release well.

sean52692
09-27-2013, 02:27 PM
or not talking about it at all like the last two and the montage release.

LT 22 is pretty damn underrated.

Bad selection here. :nod

Rowsdower
09-27-2013, 02:29 PM
Ugh, this is an incredibly underwhelming pick. There's not a single noteworthy song or performance in the whole show. Not sure why they picked this one.

sean52692
09-27-2013, 02:32 PM
Ugh, this is an incredibly underwhelming pick. There's not a single noteworthy song or performance in the whole show. Not sure why they picked this one.

Olé, Olé, Olé interpolation in Proudest Monkey!

dmb6743
09-27-2013, 02:41 PM
Olé, Olé, Olé interpolation in Proudest Monkey!

I'd be willing to bet all of my money in my bank account that this is listed in the description of this release. Unfortunately that's a whopping 5 bucks.

sean52692
09-27-2013, 02:44 PM
I'd be willing to bet all of my money in my bank account that this is listed in the description of this release. Unfortunately that's a whopping 5 bucks.

:upyours

sean52692
09-27-2013, 02:45 PM
Ugh, this was when #41 was shortened too. This one is 7:54 long.

gweeps
09-27-2013, 02:47 PM
I understand why they're releasing this, and I haven't heard anything from the show (it's not on Dreamingtree)...

gweeps
09-27-2013, 02:48 PM
Ugh, this was when #41 was shortened too. This one is 7:54 long.I liked the shortened ones. A nice change of pace.

Jack
09-27-2013, 02:53 PM
I mean...

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056834&tid=109&where=2010

Habbs
09-27-2013, 02:58 PM
I mean...

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056834&tid=109&where=2010

Damn, that would be better... just imagine if they had played the encores as planned!

sean52692
09-27-2013, 03:01 PM
I mean...

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056834&tid=109&where=2010

Wow. :upyours

.Gary.
09-27-2013, 03:06 PM
Simply a strategic business release

Mersh
09-27-2013, 03:12 PM
BOOOOOurns! BOOOOOurns!

basically 3 duds in a row.

Yeah...oof.

batleon
09-27-2013, 03:13 PM
Cash grab for the upcoming South American tour. Wouldn't be so bad if it weren't for the fact that the last couple of releases in this series hadn't been so mediocre.

Releases this year
DMBLive - 4.7.95 - Good pick
LT24 - '06 tour opener - Terrible pick
DMBLive - 3.25.95 - Wasn't this an AUD?
LT25 - '03 show we already had a SBD of - Meh

Bad year for releases.

Mersh
09-27-2013, 03:14 PM
Hopefully there will be a decent DMBLive following in about a month.

drummerkrf
09-27-2013, 03:14 PM
Yeah...oof.

LT 27..... WOOF!

http://www.jacquielonglegs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Jacquie-Coe-buzz-13.png

d.m.bfan222
09-27-2013, 03:15 PM
Damn, that would be better... just imagine if they had played the encores as planned!

Seriously... too bad they didn't.

This release is pretty useless, too bad. Need more 2002 or 2004.

batleon
09-27-2013, 03:18 PM
LT 1-10 was very up and down, but mostly down
LT 11-20 was a great run of releases
LT 21-30 seems like we're back to being a mixed bag again with the bad beating out the good.

JustinC
09-27-2013, 03:22 PM
LT 1-10 was very up and down, but mostly down


??

12/8/98, 8/27/00, 4/30/96, 8/23/95, 12/31/96, 8/7/04

6 out of the 10 were definitely good releases. So LT 1-10 was mostly up.

Poth Ead
09-27-2013, 03:22 PM
Meh. Was hoping for a "classic show" in time for the Holidays.

Here's hoping they come through with a live retail release for the holidays... MSG '98!!! :lol

JimBeam41
09-27-2013, 03:26 PM
Terrible pick...they haven't had a release worth purchasing since that 95 Duke show.

Whoever has the signature "let the almanac pick the live releases" is 100% right

Rowsdower
09-27-2013, 03:26 PM
I mean...

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056834&tid=109&where=2010

If I remember correctly the performances were kind of sloppy at that show. Boyd sounded particularly bad.

Rowsdower
09-27-2013, 03:30 PM
Meh. Was hoping for a "classic show" in time for the Holidays.

Here's hoping they come through with a live retail release for the holidays... MSG '98!!! :lol

The '02 MSG run would have been a perfect choice, IMO. Two great shows from the holidays for a classic venue we have no live releases from and from a year that is very underrepresented. Seemed like a no-brainer to me.

torres
09-27-2013, 03:33 PM
Ugh

abw123
09-27-2013, 03:43 PM
I mean...

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056834&tid=109&where=2010

Came here to post the exact same.

batleon
09-27-2013, 04:06 PM
??

12/8/98, 8/27/00, 4/30/96, 8/23/95, 12/31/96, 8/7/04

6 out of the 10 were definitely good releases. So LT 1-10 was mostly up.

4/30/96? Eh not really. That's 5 good and 5 bad. So I will concede the "mostly down" part but not the "up and down" part.

Habbs
09-27-2013, 04:12 PM
??

12/8/98, 8/27/00, 4/30/96, 8/23/95, 12/31/96, 8/7/04

6 out of the 10 were definitely good releases. So LT 1-10 was mostly up.

9/12/04 deserves to be on this list IMO, though I know people will bitch about the mix and how the setlist isn't that great. :blah 5/25/07 almost gets up there too.

sean52692
09-27-2013, 04:15 PM
9/12/04 deserves to be on this list IMO, though I know people will bitch about the mix and how the setlist isn't that great.

:upyours Good show.

abw123
09-27-2013, 04:25 PM
4/30/96? Eh not really. That's 5 good and 5 bad. So I will concede the "mostly down" part but not the "up and down" part.

4/30/96 is a very mediocre '96 show in my opinion. But I actually don't mind LT2 or LT6, and while LT10 has a horrid setlist, it is a listenable/well-played show.

Mersh
09-27-2013, 04:28 PM
LT 27..... WOOF!


Nah, I meant oof.

drummerkrf
09-27-2013, 04:34 PM
semantics

Mersh
09-27-2013, 04:37 PM
Well, one is a noise a dog makes and the other isn't, but, at the end of the day, this release sucks.

SeekUpAB
09-27-2013, 05:01 PM
I'll buy it, cause I'm a completist asshole, but I don't see myself ever listening to this. Awful pick.

italy8384
09-27-2013, 05:19 PM
I feel like they've already released a show that looks exactly like this set list in the past few years.

Habbs
09-27-2013, 05:24 PM
I feel like they've already released a show that looks exactly like this set list in the past few years.

Not exactly :downyours
I look forward to the first 4 songs, Stay or Leave, Gravedigger, #41, Jimi Thing, and Time Bomb>Two Step. That said, there are so many other 2010 shows I would rather they release, not that 2010 needs another release anyways.

torres
09-27-2013, 05:29 PM
Not exactly :downyours
I look forward to the first 4 songs, Stay or Leave, Gravedigger, #41, Jimi Thing, and Time Bomb>Two Step. That said, there are so many other 2010 shows I would rather they release, not that 2010 needs another release anyways.

This.

soright05
09-27-2013, 05:47 PM
terrible terrible choice

ThememanXX
09-27-2013, 05:51 PM
As was said....cash grab for the SA tour. Anything from the Fall US 2010 tour would've been leaps and bounds better.

cryfreedom09
09-27-2013, 05:55 PM
Well this is a depressing release.

Tomacco
09-27-2013, 06:19 PM
Bleh. Plus, I feel like this is way too similar to Wrigley's set.

BurnItDown
09-27-2013, 06:25 PM
No thank you.

Mitch
09-27-2013, 06:43 PM
As was said....cash grab for the SA tour. Anything from the Fall US 2010 tour would've been leaps and bounds better.

Exactly. Disappointing release.

Jayes
09-27-2013, 06:44 PM
Yeah, we need MSG '02 and more '04 badly

greppson
09-27-2013, 07:40 PM
I'll buy it, cause I'm a completist asshole, but I don't see myself ever listening to this. Awful pick.

I used to be, but the last few haven't been that appealing to me. I'd rather spend the $$ on a few nice bottles of craft beer.

ggies
09-27-2013, 08:32 PM
I'll buy it, cause I'm a completist asshole, but I don't see myself ever listening to this. Awful pick.

You ruin it for everyone! Man up and don't buy this shit. They know people like you will buy this crap. Fucking print out the cover art and put it with your other ones.

Fan#41
09-27-2013, 09:10 PM
http://toffymenchavez.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/disappointed.gif?w=246&h=246

Jayes
09-27-2013, 09:12 PM
http://toffymenchavez.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/disappointed.gif?w=246&h=246

:lol I saw that, Fan

SeekUpAB
09-27-2013, 09:35 PM
If I thought my one man protest would make a difference I probably would. I'm actually like three or four behind anyway, so it's not like I'm jumping on to pre-order.

ggies
09-27-2013, 09:49 PM
Ah, I was just giving you a hard time.

brian3641
09-27-2013, 10:45 PM
http://toffymenchavez.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/disappointed.gif?w=246&h=246

:lol

sdaltons
09-28-2013, 12:08 AM
This is terrible

brian3641
09-28-2013, 12:12 AM
I just don't understand their business model. Are they saving the good shows for when we're all old with dementia and we can't hear skrees anymore or even remember what a good set looks like?

Jayes
09-28-2013, 12:26 AM
I wonder if close friends and crew members get to weigh in on these releases sometimes for whatever personal reasons. I remember that the crew wrote setlists for the Giant's stadium shows in '99. I'm sure they've done it before and I'm sure they like certain shows for their own reasons..

dmb1981
09-28-2013, 02:04 AM
What a redundant release.

cryfreedom09
09-28-2013, 08:55 AM
I wonder if close friends and crew members get to weigh in on these releases sometimes for whatever personal reasons. I remember that the crew wrote setlists for the Giant's stadium shows in '99. I'm sure they've done it before and I'm sure they like certain shows for their own reasons..

Make ya wonder if there are crew members that critique the shows like we do / do they have the same mentality as the hardcore fans.

Jack
09-28-2013, 08:57 AM
Make ya wonder if there are crew members that critique the shows like we do / do they have the same mentality as the hardcore fans.

Yes, they see them all.

cryfreedom09
09-28-2013, 12:20 PM
Yes, they see them all.

Good point. But Dave plays them all and I don't think he has the mentality of a hardcore :lol

Jack
09-28-2013, 12:31 PM
Good point. But Dave plays them all and I don't think he has the mentality of a hardcore :lol

But that's different. It's his art. Hard to critique yourself accurately.

cryfreedom09
09-28-2013, 12:50 PM
But that's different. It's his art. Hard to critique yourself accurately.

Yes indeed. He's his own best critic.

Jack
09-28-2013, 01:08 PM
"It's gold, David. Gold!"

cryfreedom09
09-28-2013, 01:29 PM
"It's gold, David. Gold!"

Precisely.

celluloid hero
09-28-2013, 01:30 PM
I don't see this as a 100% money grab. It's obviously timed with the tour, but it's like a tour to support an album, only in reverse. The release promotes the tour.

There's no need for a money grab and there are obvious ways to do it if they wanted, but don't. Look at Live Trax 23. That sold out in preorder. Yet no release since has any parallel to the pick.

I'm fine with it. We get a lot of stuff. I'm sure we'll get another 95 from dmblive soon. There's no tape, just a YouTube and it's an interesting watch. The crowd is electric and sings between the songs. It will be a good listen.

As far as wanting us to make a pick, we've given input that has led to a release. They didn't advertise that, so we haven't either. Who knows, maybe it was in the works anyway. But the input we gave wasn't solicited. So I'm not sure it will happen again. Trying not to just spam the once a week with our pick of the week. But I have sent a few more, who knows if anything will happen again. It seems a bit entitled to expect to have gotten what we did in the first place let alone more.

Jayes
09-28-2013, 02:22 PM
Does the almanac keep track of all the live releases somewhere other than just denoting it on individual set stats?

Jack
09-28-2013, 02:37 PM
I still wonder if LT23 sold out on pre order because it was THAT popular, or because they anticipated selling less when making their original order.

dancetheham
09-28-2013, 02:41 PM
Does the almanac keep track of all the live releases somewhere other than just denoting it on individual set stats?
For now, nowhere that's searchable (i.e., not as part of the database), but there's a list on the main page that we update periodically. It's about halfway down the page right now and is updated through LT26.

gweeps
09-28-2013, 02:45 PM
Does the almanac keep track of all the live releases somewhere other than just denoting it on individual set stats?

Yeah, when you click on a year to see the list of shows played. Beside whichever has been officially released you'll see a small CD icon. It's neato.

Also, obviously, there's the occasionally updated main page list of show releases.

celluloid hero
09-28-2013, 03:44 PM
I still wonder if LT23 sold out on pre order because it was THAT popular, or because they anticipated selling less when making their original order.

I asked when I was in CVille for the shows in December right when it came out. They ordered the same amount they normally did based on other shows' preorders.

Jack
09-28-2013, 07:11 PM
I asked when I was in CVille for the shows in December right when it came out. They ordered the same amount they normally did based on other shows' preorders.

Very cool info. Thank you. That is awesome to hear. Surprised they haven't tried to go back to that well. Seems like the old timers are still capable of paying the bills. I know the two d&t ones were the last ones I bought. Probably far from alone here.

willndmb
09-28-2013, 09:05 PM
I asked when I was in CVille for the shows in December right when it came out. They ordered the same amount they normally did based on other shows' preorders.

I think they prob did order the same amount but if they didnt do you really think they are going to tell you that?
I doubt they would say something like no we ordered less because we knew it sucked as a choice and didnt plan on people really wanting it

sean52692
09-28-2013, 09:16 PM
Not even anything interesting about this release, really. Not even a Seek Up or a LITHOG or a Rapunzel. Bleh.

I guess I'm looking forward to hearing Squirm, BEF :segue Bartender, Proudest, Crush, and #41.

What was the last BEF release? Not too many of those, so that's nice.

celluloid hero
09-28-2013, 09:47 PM
I think they prob did order the same amount but if they didnt do you really think they are going to tell you that?
I doubt they would say something like no we ordered less because we knew it sucked as a choice and didnt plan on people really wanting it

The conversation wasn't like that at all. I'd prefer not to get into the word for word, but there is 0% chance that's what happened.

holdyouclose
09-28-2013, 11:28 PM
I've actually walked past this venue so that's cool I guess?

Pretty pathetic when this is the silver lining....

willndmb
09-29-2013, 08:12 AM
The conversation wasn't like that at all. I'd prefer not to get into the word for word, but there is 0% chance that's what happened.

Cool

JamSession v2.0
09-29-2013, 10:08 AM
http://toffymenchavez.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/disappointed.gif?w=246&h=246

:upyours

batleon
09-29-2013, 06:47 PM
Very cool info. Thank you. That is awesome to hear. Surprised they haven't tried to go back to that well. Seems like the old timers are still capable of paying the bills. I know the two d&t ones were the last ones I bought. Probably far from alone here.

Same.

Thor2531
09-30-2013, 08:05 AM
It's weird because I'd be excited for releases if they:

a.) made each show available after the fact.
b.) carefully chose a show and released one every couple of years.

This 3-4 any given year just kinda of dilutes the market and reinforces some of the setlist qualms I have. Doesn't help that whoever Mr. Selection is blows at their job. I haven't purchased a release since the Live in NYC a couple years back.

ThememanXX
09-30-2013, 09:16 AM
This would be my pick for the next release:

June 7, 2013
Comcast Theatre
Hartford, CT


(#34)
JTR
Warehouse
Squirm
Broken Things
The Idea of You
(Kill the Preacher) :segue
Why I Am
Captain
Belly Belly Nice
Big Eyed Fish :segue
Bartender
The Song That Jane Likes
Lie in Our Graves
Runnin' Down a Dream
Rooftop
The Dreaming Tree
Rhyme & Reason
Everyday :segue
Ants Marching
____________

Drunken Soldier
All Along the Watchtower



because.....god damn.

roshea999
09-30-2013, 09:42 AM
Good looking show :upyours

batleon
09-30-2013, 09:53 AM
It's weird because I'd be excited for releases if they:

a.) made each show available after the fact.
b.) carefully chose a show and released one every couple of years.

This 3-4 any given year just kinda of dilutes the market and reinforces some of the setlist qualms I have. Doesn't help that whoever Mr. Selection is blows at their job. I haven't purchased a release since the Live in NYC a couple years back.

The thing is if they release a good number of shows in any given year it guarantees that there will be at least one gem a year that you can/should pick up. This year has been bad overall - this is the fifth and probably last release of the year, the smallest number of releases they've given us since 2007. But while most of them have been subpar they did give us one gem (4.7.95). So I'd rather get more than less - if we only got one or two a year the chances that it will be a good one are pretty low.

Mitch
09-30-2013, 10:36 AM
This 3-4 any given year just kinda of dilutes the market and reinforces some of the setlist qualms I have. Doesn't help that whoever Mr. Selection is blows at their job. I haven't purchased a release since the Live in NYC a couple years back.

This is the main problem. The picks just haven't been that good recently for the most part.

drummerkrf
09-30-2013, 10:42 AM
Would that be Tucker Rogers?

I'd like to believe that he is shaking his head at this one just the same, as management vetos his picks. :dunno

Mitch
09-30-2013, 10:50 AM
Yeah, I mean, I don't care about pointing the finger at a specific person. But the picks, bottom line, are not that good.

Josh.0
09-30-2013, 10:53 AM
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE LIVE TRAX 27 BLOWS RABBLE RABBLE

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9Vk-fweAuLQ/Tcl_b1GY5zI/AAAAAAAAADY/d0DSRJX6uPM/s1600/rabble.jpg

ThememanXX
09-30-2013, 11:32 AM
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE LIVE TRAX 27 BLOWS RABBLE RABBLE

[/thread]

batleon
09-30-2013, 11:33 AM
I just think this release isn't for us. Not every release is going to be for us. The timing just sucks as the last couple have been misses.

drummerkrf
09-30-2013, 11:45 AM
I just think this release isn't for us. Not every release is going to be for us. The timing just sucks as the last couple have been misses.

I don't get this. If its not supposed to be for the fans, and more of an effort to support the upcoming tour, then why release it under the 'Live Trax' moniker...

'Dave Matthews Band: Live in South America' (or something of that nature) would be more of a new fan grab gearing up for the tour IMO... just another live release...



edit: granted, I'm sure the majority of the DMB Family thinks this release is :rawk maybe that's what you were getting at.

ethaxton
09-30-2013, 02:47 PM
If the mix is good, I'll take this. There isn't a single 2010 show worth listening to because of the mixes they have released IMO.

Mersh
09-30-2013, 02:57 PM
I just think this release isn't for us. Not every release is going to be for us. The timing just sucks as the last couple have been misses.

such an apologist

K270
09-30-2013, 03:03 PM
Has anyone received the e-mail yet officially announcing this?

batleon
09-30-2013, 03:06 PM
such an apologist

You figured me out. I'm really NiCkCrush's alter.

drummerkrf
09-30-2013, 03:07 PM
:lol SPARTY!

Jack
09-30-2013, 04:14 PM
If the mix is good, I'll take this. There isn't a single 2010 show worth listening to because of the mixes they have released IMO.

That montage mix is such garbage.

Has anyone received the e-mail yet officially announcing this?

It hasn't been officially announced yet.

mjf
09-30-2013, 04:26 PM
FWIW, I sent the setlist to 3 friends that are casual fans and all three were excited for the release...

dumbasses. but a good reminder that we only represent such a small fraction of fans

Thrawn
09-30-2013, 05:48 PM
If the mix is good, I'll take this. There isn't a single 2010 show worth listening to because of the mixes they have released IMO.

This is how I feel.

This isn't anywhere close to anything I would have chosen, but if they do finally get a 2010 show mixed correctly, I'll enjoy that.

Mitch
09-30-2013, 06:09 PM
That montage mix is such garbage.



It really is. I listened to it once in my car and it was just noisy shit. I will never listen to it again. Shame. Could of been a decent release if mixed half-decent.


This isn't anywhere close to anything I would have chosen, but if they do finally get a 2010 show mixed correctly, I'll enjoy that.

This is true.

Mersh
09-30-2013, 06:14 PM
You figured me out. I'm really NiCkCrush's alter.

good effort to throw us off, spence.

brian3641
09-30-2013, 06:20 PM
:lol

batleon
09-30-2013, 08:02 PM
good effort to throw us off, spence.

Yeah, uh, Roi sucks. Community is the best show ever. Rock and roll forever or something :rawk

cryfreedom09
09-30-2013, 08:57 PM
It really is. I listened to it once in my car and it was just noisy shit. I will never listen to it again. Shame. Could of been a decent release if mixed half-decent.

You'll never listen to it in your car again or at all ever? I agree it's not the best mix but still an enjoyable listen based on performances.

Mitch
09-30-2013, 10:14 PM
You'll never listen to it in your car again or at all ever?

not in my car, not at a bar, not in my house, not with a mouse

It sounded like shit to me. The performances ain't that good. And I'm not a big mix snob, I can deal with Gorge and LT2, this one just sounded real bad.

mjf
09-30-2013, 10:25 PM
not in my car, not at a bar, not in my house, not with a mouse

It sounded like shit to me. The performances ain't that good. And I'm not a big mix snob, I can deal with Gorge and LT2, this one just sounded real bad.

did that one listen give ya cancer or something?

haha it is fuckin awful

brian3641
09-30-2013, 10:36 PM
not in my car, not at a bar, not in my house, not with a mouse

You would not, could not on a fence? You would not, could not with FiddySpence? You wouldn't listen for goodness sake? You wouldn't even listen with our good friend Jake?

cryfreedom09
09-30-2013, 10:39 PM
not in my car, not at a bar, not in my house, not with a mouse

It sounded like shit to me. The performances ain't that good. And I'm not a big mix snob, I can deal with Gorge and LT2, this one just sounded real bad.

:lol Haha I didn't think it was that bad. I really dug the outro jam to GiG and SDL.

Mitch
09-30-2013, 10:39 PM
You would not, could not on a fence? You would not, could not with FiddySpence? You wouldn't listen for goodness sake? You wouldn't even listen with our good friend Jake?

:lol well done

gweeps
09-30-2013, 10:43 PM
Honestly, beyond a few tracks here and there from various releases, almost all shows are a once and done listen. There's simply too much other live material to either catch up on or keep up with. But still, I enjoy them all.

mjf
09-30-2013, 10:53 PM
Honestly, beyond a few tracks here and there from various releases, almost all shows are a once and done listen. There's simply too much other live material to either catch up on or keep up with. But still, I enjoy them all.

Yep I agree. I think one of the reasons i listen to so many of the '95 dmblive stuff is they are so much shorter than later era stuff.

JWood
10-01-2013, 09:47 AM
Does this one have a release date yet?

Please don't tell me this is the "Christmas" release

Mitch
10-01-2013, 09:58 AM
Yep I agree. I think one of the reasons i listen to so many of the '95 dmblive stuff is they are so much shorter than later era stuff.

well, yeah, that and '95 being fucking awesome

mjf
10-01-2013, 10:23 AM
well, yeah, that and '95 being fucking awesome

goes without saying!

I can't get enough of fall '96 either, never much see it mentioned much though. When I first got into trading in DMB some chick sent me the whole '96 fall tour for free, wore alot of those discs out

sdaltons
10-01-2013, 11:04 AM
Does this one have a release date yet?

Please don't tell me this is the "Christmas" release
hasn't even been officially announced yet

gweeps
10-01-2013, 11:21 AM
Maybe we'll get a Summer Tour 2013 sampler with this? Or with some other release more geared to us?

Jack
10-01-2013, 12:27 PM
I still think it's weird we don't have any full show releases more recent than the Live in AC.

mario
10-01-2013, 02:01 PM
I still think it's weird we don't have any full show releases more recent than the Live in AC.
.

Thrawn
10-01-2013, 02:18 PM
I still think it's weird we don't have any full show releases more recent than the Live in AC.

That has to be the longest that the gap between "now" and "the last released show" has been since... Central Park was released?

julio_havok
10-01-2013, 10:26 PM
Rio 2010 would be a much better release...

Dave Matthews Band
October 8, 2010
HSBC Arena, Rio de Janeiro, RJ, BRA

Seek Up
Pig
Shake Me Like a Monkey
Lying in the Hands of God
Funny the Way It Is
Pantala Naga Pampa »
Grey Street
#41
So Right
Seven
Dancing Nancies
Crush
Lie in Our Graves
Bartender
Why I Am
Crash into Me
Ants Marching
-----------------------------------
Some Devil
You & Me
Rapunzel

Jack
10-02-2013, 07:00 AM
Yea, we were talking about that a few pages ago. Someone said the play was pretty sloppy.

Jack
10-02-2013, 07:05 AM
I just think this release isn't for us. Not every release is going to be for us. The timing just sucks as the last couple have been misses.

Unfortunately I think they thought the last one was for us with Spoon & Kit Kat Jam (exceptional & rare guyz!!!1!!1). Just a few things they didn't take into account.

batleon
10-02-2013, 07:30 AM
Unfortunately I think they thought the last one was for us with Spoon & Kit Kat Jam (exceptional & rare guyz!!!1!!1). Just a few things they didn't take into account.

Yeah, too bad they didn't actually listen to the show first. Though creaming over a setlist without listening to the show would be something we would do...

Jack
10-02-2013, 07:46 AM
Or realize anyone who cared already had a sbd of the show.

celluloid hero
10-02-2013, 09:14 AM
I can't start ripping on them for releasing good shows that have great tapes or a sbd that spread that they have no idea about. The dmblives are much better about that and most modern shows have great recordings. Bad shows are one thing. You really can't expect them to research 2003 quietly spread analog soundboards. They want to release an early 2003 because there's no release from the tour proper, the setlist is full of fan favorites and songs not played often before they dropped them all for the second half, and Boyd is at least reasonable.

It's a pretty big statement of entitlement to rip that pick.

ThememanXX
10-02-2013, 09:46 AM
How about releasing a few (or all) of these in the DMBLive series for Christmas? People would buy them.....none of them have tapes (that I know of), shitty sets or not.

6/15/05 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056181&tid=83&where=2005)
8/31/05 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056209&tid=83&where=2005)
8/2/08 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056588&tid=98&where=2008)
6/9/09 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056645&tid=106&where=2009)
6/10/09 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056650&tid=106&where=2009)
9/29/09 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056677&tid=106&where=2009)
10/2/09 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056679&tid=106&where=2009)
3/11/10 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056747&tid=107&where=2010)
3/12/10 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056748&tid=107&where=2010)
6/1/10 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056762&tid=110&where=2010)
8/17/10 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056793&tid=110&where=2010)
8/31/10 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056800&tid=110&where=2010)
12/19/12 (http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453057069&tid=118&where=2012)

Fan#41
10-02-2013, 09:49 AM
No.

ThememanXX
10-02-2013, 10:02 AM
No.

....elaborate?

Jack
10-02-2013, 10:02 AM
See, I don't think so. They should know their market. If your job is to pick releases you should be in touch with the community you're marketing to. A lot of people didn't buy this show because they had the sbd (or took the wait and see how it sounds approach). A lot of people who didn't know there was a sbd found out about it from threads (ants mostly), had it shared with them, and then didn't buy it. That would be a good thing to know before you tab a show for release.

Now, I don't want to get on that pick too much, because it is probably the most interesting setlist with Spoon in it from that tour. I mean, 9/6/03 was pretty neat, but not on this level. I think if you were picking the shows the existing sbd would have been a factor? No?

celluloid hero
10-02-2013, 12:10 PM
See, I don't think so. They should know their market. If your job is to pick releases you should be in touch with the community you're marketing to. A lot of people didn't buy this show because they had the sbd (or took the wait and see how it sounds approach). A lot of people who didn't know there was a sbd found out about it from threads (ants mostly), had it shared with them, and then didn't buy it. That would be a good thing to know before you tab a show for release.

Now, I don't want to get on that pick too much, because it is probably the most interesting setlist with Spoon in it from that tour. I mean, 9/6/03 was pretty neat, but not on this level. I think if you were picking the shows the existing sbd would have been a factor? No?

A very small subsection of people have this sbd, even in the hardcore fanbase and every single one of us said it was a huge improvement in sound. This isn't like 3.26.94. We are still a sliver of that hardcore group. I've got a lot of friends that are hardcore DMB fans. They follow all of the setlists every night, they like the lesser played songs like we do. They don't have even the slightest idea about this show having a soundboard. The era that this stuff spread was very brief. You can find it if you know it's there, there are a ton of hardcore fans that are not message board users. Doesn't it seem like we have 15 total people posting here? Even if obviously we have a lot more.

If you are in touch with the community and know about this, 1,000 people having a soundboard when your fanbase is millions is nothing.

strut24
10-02-2013, 04:41 PM
I mean...

http://www.dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453056834&tid=109&where=2010

i almost wouldn't have been as disappointed in the pick for release had you not posted this. that would've been a damn fine release IMO

edit: actually I just saw the other posts on this and yea, I remember hearing a pretty weak tape of this and some of the performances were pretty weak..oh well

JustinC
10-02-2013, 05:18 PM
Look at this terrible sell

Highlights include the one-two punch of Big Eyed Fish » Bartender in the beginning of the set, #41 in the middle, and a scorching Two Step to wrap it up

brian3641
10-02-2013, 05:43 PM
:lol

Mitch
10-02-2013, 06:14 PM
Wait, I didn't know this show had songs in the beginning, middle, and end!! Now I'm buying.

ThememanXX
10-02-2013, 06:21 PM
Lol, they played a set so hey buy this ooh a bird!

drummerkrf
10-02-2013, 07:06 PM
Officially announced.

Just got the email.

toms
10-02-2013, 08:03 PM
$54 for the soccer shirt.....jeez

batleon
10-02-2013, 08:23 PM
Live Trax Vol. 27 is available for pre-order and will be released on November 12

So there's still a chance for one more release this year... maybe.

Fan#41
10-02-2013, 09:24 PM
I really don't understand how there hasn't been any kind of poll set up on the official site for certain shows to be released.

mjf
10-02-2013, 09:28 PM
I really don't understand how there hasn't been any kind of poll set up on the official site for certain shows to be released.

I blame the people who buy every single release no matter what

Fan#41
10-02-2013, 09:36 PM
It just doesn't seem like something that could do any harm and would cost them no money to do and just get a general sense of maybe even shows to release for not just LT but DMBLive. It's not even like they HAVE to release the most voted for show rather just get a general idea. There's really no negative or downside to it.

K270
10-03-2013, 03:08 AM
Officially announced.

Just got the email.


Received the e-mail to. Didn't even bother opening it.

sneaksbeac
10-04-2013, 07:05 AM
I can't backread all these posts.

Is it safe to assume we are all in agreement the only reason why they chose this show was because of the upcoming International Tour?

drummerkrf
10-04-2013, 07:07 AM
$54 for the soccer shirt.....jeez


Yeah, Cap$haw's missing a huge opportunity here though.

http://www.worldsoccershop.com/21082.html




Received the e-mail to. Didn't even bother opening it.

Yeah, I saw the graphic with the big blue letters screaming "Buenos Aires".... and I was all like... "No Bueno".

Whose pre-ordering just for the digital photo prints? :hi :lol



I can't backread all these posts.

Is it safe to assume we are all in agreement the only reason why they chose this show was because of the upcoming International Tour?

Yes. Its safe.

sneaksbeac
10-04-2013, 07:52 AM
Thanks now I can spend the time I would have used back reading to look up funny pictures of cats

Thor2531
10-04-2013, 08:12 AM
We're all complaining, but has anyone ever tried contacting the management team and offering ideas to improve the releases? A good old compliment sandwich (compliment, critique, compliment) always does wonders in the business world.

Jack
10-04-2013, 08:13 AM
Idea: release a LT pre-order in conjunction w/ DMBLive release. Offer a discount to order both. "Pre-order live trax 28 Hollywood Bowl '07 now (for release on 12/18/13) & receive 20% off the new D&T Warfield Theater DMBLive & start your d/l immediately."

drummerkrf
10-04-2013, 08:28 AM
Idea: release a LT pre-order in conjunction w/ DMBLive release. Offer a discount to order both. "Pre-order live trax 28 Hollywood Bowl '07 now (for release on 12/18/13) & receive 20% off the new D&T Warfield Theater DMBLive & start your d/l immediately."

add a comment box/poll (that they will/will not bother looking at) appearing on the order screen prompting 'Next Suggested Release' commentary and this is genius!

At least pretend like the fanbase makes a difference...

Jayes
10-04-2013, 10:17 AM
Alright I'll finally ask it. What's the difference between DMBlive and live trax?

drummerkrf
10-04-2013, 10:20 AM
I'll admit... I've always wondered about this too.. just didn't have the balls to ask.

:lol

Mitch
10-04-2013, 10:21 AM
Alright I'll finally ask it. What's the difference between DMBlive and live trax?

Live Trax releases are multi-track recordings that are mixed and mastered. DMBlive are straight soundboards (well, one was an audience recording :lol). That's why Live Trax typically sound better, although some of the mixes are pretty bad.

Jayes
10-04-2013, 10:26 AM
Live Trax releases are multi-track recordings that are mixed and mastered. DMBlive are straight soundboards (well, one was an audience recording :lol). That's why Live Trax typically sound better, although some of the mixes are pretty bad.

So for dmblive releases they take a straight live stereo mix and just bounce it out and give it to us? Or they mix it with a room pair? Or what? How does the selection/selection process differ from live trax?

batleon
10-04-2013, 10:58 AM
Someone's explained this before. A lot of the DMBLive selections are from shows where they had a reduced sound setup i.e. older shows from before they had better sound equipment or one-off D+T or Dave solo shows where they only took a smaller setup with them for the gig.

JustinC
10-04-2013, 11:08 AM
Basically you're not gonna see anything past '95 released on DMBLive

drummerkrf
10-04-2013, 11:08 AM
or one-off D+T or Dave solo shows where they only took a smaller setup with them for the gig.

This being the case... do we think Benaroya Hall would make an awesome DMBlive release? Being a prominent Dave solo show...

Or do the tapes suit everyone just fine?

JustinC
10-04-2013, 11:16 AM
This being the case... do we think Benaroya Hall would make an awesome DMBlive release? Being a prominent Dave solo show...

Or do the tapes suit everyone just fine?

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5044/5269558397_64406aeb94_z.jpg


http://rymimg.com/lk/f/l/6f83d1513815f30eeb081b4ae17e255e/2735383.jpg

drummerkrf
10-04-2013, 11:27 AM
Welp.... sometimes (edit: nea... a lot of times) my ignorance shines through.

I've always only had the tapes to this... hardly venture into the DMBlive stuff... obviously. Guess I should throw some money at the band for this.

Fire away.
*pants dropped, showing my ass

Mitch
10-04-2013, 11:28 AM
Basically you're not gonna see anything past '95 released on DMBLive

:huh Other than the 5 post-95 DMBlives they've already put out? :lol

This being the case... do we think Benaroya Hall would make an awesome DMBlive release? Being a prominent Dave solo show...

Or do the tapes suit everyone just fine?

:lol wut?

ThememanXX
10-04-2013, 11:40 AM
:huh Other than the 5 post-95 DMBlives they've already put out? :lol

I'm assuming he means full-band.

JustinC
10-04-2013, 12:07 PM
Basically; For the most part

I mean how many post '95 shows fit under the standards of what they have set for DMBLive?

But so far the only post '95 shows released have been Dave & Tim, Dave Solo and Fall '96. I believe someone posted on here as to why the Fall '96 shows and '03 D&T show got released. And the Dave solo shows fit that small setup standard.

I'm not saying it won't ever happen, but if it's anything post '95 that isn't a Dave solo or Fall '96 show I will be surprised.

Maybe one day they will start burning through the post '95 shows that have glitches on the multi track.

Mitch
10-04-2013, 01:10 PM
Maybe one day they will start burning through the post '95 shows that have glitches on the multi track.

That'd be cool. If there are shows from, say, June 97 or December 98 that aren't gonna get the Live Trax treatment for whatever reason, it would be awesome to get the boards as DMBlives. All things being equal though, of course, I'd prefer multi-track releases of great shows.

JustinC
10-04-2013, 01:44 PM
I just wish they didn't set limitations to DMBLive. I guess at anytime the could say screw it. But another handful of '95 releases through DMBLive and they should just rename it to DMB 1995

Mitch
10-04-2013, 01:59 PM
Ha. I'm all for them continuing to release all the '95 shows, because eventually they'd have to get to my first 2 shows. 9.3.95 deserves the full multi-track treatment though, but my first show (http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453055190) is a perfect DMBlive show.

JustinC
10-04-2013, 02:19 PM
I'm all for any release as long as it isn't a meh show like this or Vol. 25

Mitch
10-04-2013, 02:24 PM
:upyours no doubt... the more the merrier... we'll decide which ones we want to buy

Jayes
10-04-2013, 03:25 PM
Ha. I'm all for them continuing to release all the '95 shows, because eventually they'd have to get to my first 2 shows. 9.3.95 deserves the full multi-track treatment though, but my first show (http://dmbalmanac.com/TourShowSet.aspx?id=453055190) is a perfect DMBlive show.

Sweet! You just see em on a whim? How was it?

Mitch
10-04-2013, 03:46 PM
Sweet! You just see em on a whim? How was it?

No, not on a whim. I started listening to them in Fall '94 when UTTAD came out, and picked up a couple tapes after that, so I was pretty excited to see them live at this point. Show was awesome. Typical '95 fire. We were third row center in a small theater, twin bill with Big Head Todd. Still one of my very favorite concert experiences ever.

Jayes
10-04-2013, 03:50 PM
No, not on a whim. I started listening to them in Fall '94 when UTTAD came out, and picked up a couple tapes after that, so I was pretty excited to see them live at this point. Show was awesome. Typical '95 fire. We were third row center in a small theater, twin bill with Big Head Todd. Still one of my very favorite concert experiences ever.

Were they loud as hell in those smaller theaters?

Mitch
10-04-2013, 03:57 PM
Were they loud as hell in those smaller theaters?

No, I don't remember that being the case at all. Their sound at the time suited it very well.

BrokenThings
10-06-2013, 01:09 PM
This being the case... do we think Benaroya Hall would make an awesome DMBlive release? Being a prominent Dave solo show...


lol oook buddy.

SomeDevil17
10-06-2013, 09:55 PM
I thought one of the the biggest differences between LiveTrax and DMBLive was they don't make physical cds for the DMBlive series.

Jayes
10-07-2013, 09:49 AM
Another interesting point. Anyone?

Mitch
10-07-2013, 10:37 AM
Well, yeah, obviously that's one of the differences.

Jack
10-07-2013, 12:00 PM
Well, yeah, obviously that's one of the differences.

:lol

I mean, seriously. WTF?

Jack
10-07-2013, 12:01 PM
I thought one of the the biggest differences between LiveTrax and DMBLive was they don't use photographs for the album art for the DMBlive series.

mjf
10-07-2013, 01:23 PM
Biggest difference for me is there isn't a DMBLive I havent listened to atleast some of, versus a huge chunk of LiveTrax I won't even waste HD space on

Mitch
10-07-2013, 01:39 PM
I thought one of the the biggest differences between LiveTrax and DMBLive was they don't use photographs for the album art for the DMBlive series.

:lol

sdaltons
10-08-2013, 07:18 AM
I thought one of the the biggest differences between LiveTrax and DMBLive was they each have different names.

sdaltons
10-08-2013, 07:20 AM
guys i have purchased every live release this band has put out, some admittedly just for the sake of completion. but in the past year or so, my interest in DMB overall has slowly started to fade and this release is one of the worst choices i've seen. people say this all the time, but this might actually be the first thing they've put out that i skip.

pretty much any 2013 show or something cool from the vault would have been a no-brainer purchase for me, but there's just nothing unique about this one at all.

batleon
10-08-2013, 08:59 AM
How do you people buy everything the band puts out? They've put out some real shit, and as much as I love DMBLive a lot of that stuff has become repetitive. If you buy crap they'll continue to put out crap.

sdaltons
10-08-2013, 09:34 AM
How do you people buy everything the band puts out? They've put out some real shit, and as much as I love DMBLive a lot of that stuff has become repetitive. If you buy crap they'll continue to put out crap.
oh yeah i think i've only bought one DMBLive. i only meant the physical stuff.

ThememanXX
10-08-2013, 09:53 AM
If you buy crap they'll continue to put out crap.

Yep. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it."

batleon
10-08-2013, 10:13 AM
I think I launched a serious attack on people for this after LT10 was released. "Well this release sucks but I buy everything, so oh well, better luck next time!"

Makes no sense.

Jayes
10-08-2013, 10:32 AM
As of AFTW, I dont have the full DMB studio collection in hard copies. Most of the trax and dmblive I have not purchased. I used to be really into having everything but I guess my priorities shifted a few years ago. Still love the music, but I stick to my releases and auds

Jack
10-08-2013, 10:39 AM
I think I launched a serious attack on people for this after LT10 was released. "Well this release sucks but I buy everything, so oh well, better luck next time!"

Makes no sense.

LT10 was the first thing I didn't buy. I eventually got it when that weird Microsoft site was selling them for like $7 each shipped. Then Europe '09, which I never got. I'd say I've bought very few releases since then. Once you stop caring about 'having everything,' buying on quality keeps a lot of money out of Coran's pockets.

Thrawn
10-08-2013, 10:50 AM
I haven't bought any of the DMBLives, I'm not as interested in that time period, but I've bought every Trax and I haven't regretted it. Every show they've put out has had something unique or interesting about it, even 10 had its moments.

This one, though...if this has a bad mix, I think I'll skip it. Lot of 2010s already. The mix is the tipping point for me.

Jack
10-08-2013, 11:21 AM
I really enjoy the morello tracks on LT10. Definitely no longer the worst one.

batleon
10-08-2013, 11:57 AM
LT10 was the first thing I didn't buy. I eventually got it when that weird Microsoft site was selling them for like $7 each shipped. Then Europe '09, which I never got. I'd say I've bought very few releases since then. Once you stop caring about 'having everything,' buying on quality keeps a lot of money out of Coran's pockets.

Yeah, at the time I saw LT10 as kind of a hard line in terms of "buy everything or not." I had never been that guy but in my mind there was no reason to buy that one at that time.

They've certainly released worse since then though, and that was before DMBLive which pretty much kills any reason to own everything IMO since there are a bunch of throw aways there.

Thor2531
10-08-2013, 01:37 PM
Just noticed the edit to the thread title....too funny.

Habbs
10-08-2013, 02:07 PM
It doesn't make it much better a choice when there are so many great shows to choose instead, at least there is this: "A full audio recording of this show has not been available until this release."

greykitkat36
10-08-2013, 02:11 PM
Wow. Terrible terrible choice for a live release. Such a boring pick with overplayed songs we already have a million versions of. What criteria does the management use to release these shows? It's def not based on what songs they've already released. I'm really curious what the thought process:

"Uh, the first show you pick out of the vault with your eyes closed, we'll release that one."

Jack
10-08-2013, 02:20 PM
It doesn't make it much better a choice when there are so many great shows to choose instead, at least there is this: "A full audio recording of this show has not been available until this release."

well, there's a full video recording of it.

ThememanXX
10-08-2013, 02:21 PM
thank you whomever edited the title. this LT pick is horrid.

batleon
10-08-2013, 02:32 PM
Title change :lol

Mersh
10-08-2013, 02:55 PM
well, it is apt.

drummerkrf
10-08-2013, 03:06 PM
:lol

JustinC
10-08-2013, 03:19 PM
I really enjoy the morello tracks on LT10. Definitely no longer the worst one.

That actually has a decent run to end the main set (sans Sister) and the 2nd encore makes up for the 1st one

Jack
10-08-2013, 03:38 PM
man, they actually found a way to release a show where the one bright spot of the show's discussion thread would be us talking up how awesome parts of Live Trax ten are. I think Coran just smugly collected $1 from some VP over there... #slowclap #themaster

celluloid hero
10-08-2013, 03:54 PM
Basically; For the most part

I mean how many post '95 shows fit under the standards of what they have set for DMBLive?

But so far the only post '95 shows released have been Dave & Tim, Dave Solo and Fall '96. I believe someone posted on here as to why the Fall '96 shows and '03 D&T show got released. And the Dave solo shows fit that small setup standard.

I'm not saying it won't ever happen, but if it's anything post '95 that isn't a Dave solo or Fall '96 show I will be surprised.

Maybe one day they will start burning through the post '95 shows that have glitches on the multi track.

Your last point is why the 2003 D&T and the Fall 1996s were released. Big multi-track crapped out.

Jack
10-08-2013, 04:04 PM
Was the January 28, 93 show the multitrack version that was slated for release at Live At The Floodzone after Red Rocks? I think it was, right?

Mersh
10-08-2013, 04:07 PM
Was the January 28, 93 show the multitrack version that was slated for release at Live At The Floodzone after Red Rocks? I think it was, right?

Sounds right

mjf
10-08-2013, 04:19 PM
Your last point is why the 2003 D&T and the Fall 1996s were released. Big multi-track crapped out.

This is a little off topic but I've always been very curious to know and you definitely are the guy to ask. Was there any reason why the video of 4.3.03 never was released? Or were they just not happy with the set?

celluloid hero
10-08-2013, 04:28 PM
This is a little off topic but I've always been very curious to know and you definitely are the guy to ask. Was there any reason why the video of 4.3.03 never was released? Or were they just not happy with the set?

I don't have any idea. I get a bit of conversation occasionally and a chance to ask a couple questions here and there. The dmblive focus was one I did specifically ask and got an answer a year or two ago. I'd love to be able to have a list of like 20 things to ask either on the record or off (wouldn't we all), but it's not like that unfortunately. If I had to guess it could be a show that the recording was too glitchy for general release.

Mersh
10-08-2013, 04:42 PM
I didn't realize that 96 shows only hit DMBLive because there was a problem with the multi-track.

Jack
10-08-2013, 04:58 PM
This is a little off topic but I've always been very curious to know and you definitely are the guy to ask. Was there any reason why the video of 4.3.03 never was released? Or were they just not happy with the set?

Totally forgot they filmed that one until you mentioned it.

Jack
10-08-2013, 05:00 PM
I didn't realize that 96 shows only hit DMBLive because there was a problem with the multi-track.

Glad they did. Really enjoy those two.

Mersh
10-08-2013, 05:03 PM
Glad they did. Really enjoy those two.

Me too...hope there are more from 96 and beyond.

Fan#41
10-08-2013, 05:34 PM
I really would like the next release to come from either '98, '99 '00 or '02.

Jack
10-08-2013, 06:10 PM
Or hell, even '12 or '13. We have enough '08, 09, 10 to last us for a long time.

mjf
10-08-2013, 06:33 PM
I don't have any idea. I get a bit of conversation occasionally and a chance to ask a couple questions here and there. The dmblive focus was one I did specifically ask and got an answer a year or two ago. I'd love to be able to have a list of like 20 things to ask either on the record or off (wouldn't we all), but it's not like that unfortunately. If I had to guess it could be a show that the recording was too glitchy for general release.

Thanks alot for the response, yeah it's definitely on the bottom of that list of 20 things but I always wondered none the less.

Totally forgot they filmed that one until you mentioned it.

It wasn't exactly memorable, but I personally enjoyed the excellent audience DVDs from that tour enough to hope it sees the light some day. Busted Stuff was the only song that I listen to regularly from it.

mjf
10-08-2013, 06:34 PM
I really would like the next release to come from either '98, '99 '00 or '02.

swap in '97 for '00 and that list is perfect in my eyes :upyours

dmb2much40
10-08-2013, 06:41 PM
I wouldn't mind a July 04 but yeah we need something between 96 and 04.

sean52692
10-08-2013, 08:20 PM
June 97
Fall 98
May 99
Sep 00
Summer 02
June/July 04
June 06
June 08
2012
2013

Fan#41
10-08-2013, 08:36 PM
Or hell, even '12 or '13. We have enough '08, 09, 10 to last us for a long time.

Unless it's one of the Mansfield's from either of those two tours, I'm not interested in current DMB releases.

sean52692
10-08-2013, 09:22 PM
I'd be interested in loads of stuff from 2012, and 2013 in particular. Plenty of satisfying tapes to pick from, so that quells my thirst for one a bit.

Tomacco
10-08-2013, 10:21 PM
Seems odd to me that AFTW has been out for over a year and we don't have an official release featuring that material yet. Figured the next LT would be a 2012-13 show. Haha, between this and the band's lack of playing the album live, it seems like DMB isn't too into promoting this album.

sean52692
10-08-2013, 10:31 PM
Seems odd to me that AFTW has been out for over a year and we don't have an official release featuring that material yet. Figured the next LT would be a 2012-13 show. Haha, between this and the band's lack of playing the album live, it seems like DMB isn't too into promoting this album.

Too say the least.

mario
10-08-2013, 10:33 PM
the last dmb music I purchased was busted stuff (or some devil if we're counting that). I had everything up to then, but coran was on notice after folsom and the stand up leak scared me off purchasing for good.

edit: what conclusion do we draw from my refusal to buy a dmb cd but willingness to contribute the equivalent price of a cd to keep this dmb message board running?

Fan#41
10-08-2013, 10:36 PM
I'd be interested in loads of stuff from 2012, and 2013 in particular. Plenty of satisfying tapes to pick from, so that quells my thirst for one a bit.

Give me any number of shows from 1995 - 2000 long before anything from '12 or '13. Now a Sampler from each year is different, provided picks were solid like say 41 with Wooten from Mansfield, is a different story, I'm all for that. But full shows? Not that interested.

sean52692
10-08-2013, 10:54 PM
Give me any number of shows from 1995 - 2000 long before anything from '12 or '13.

I'll always agree with this.

JustinC
10-08-2013, 11:00 PM
Give me something from '98 or '99.

Going on 14 years since the last and only '99 show and going on 9 years since the last '98 show.

Fan#41
10-08-2013, 11:04 PM
And please, don't release 11/7/98 just because we don't have a tape. We've gotten a few shows that weren't in circulation and that's great, but let's take a break from that and stick with the classics (ie; 2/19/96).

mjf
10-08-2013, 11:17 PM
Anything with Tim, Butch, and Bela would be gold right now

Poth Ead
10-08-2013, 11:48 PM
hopefully, they end "Live Trax" at volume 30, start a new series, and we get some "classic" DMB shows...

When you look at the whole LT series overall up to this point, aside for a few golden releases, the series kinda blows :lol

edit: of course I'm grateful to have them, but I expected more of the releases the die-hards want. whatever.

greykitkat36
10-08-2013, 11:58 PM
I know 2003 D+T isn't as highly regarded around here, but I'd love to see a DVD surface from that tour. I think Dave's voice was the best it's been on that tour, perhaps his vocal peak imo. Some good bustouts and nice performances all around. I'd take that over a lot of other stuff they could put out.

Data must have been lost or corrupted from that purdue show, that's the only reason i could see them not releasing it. Although it could have also been that DMB management didn't want the DVD to compete with CP which they knew they were going to be filiming as well. 2 DVD releases in the same year usually never pans out well. But I'm surprised we've never seen it at this point.

gweeps
10-09-2013, 01:49 AM
Seems odd to me that AFTW has been out for over a year and we don't have an official release featuring that material yet. Figured the next LT would be a 2012-13 show. Haha, between this and the band's lack of playing the album live, it seems like DMB isn't too into promoting this album.Yeah, they haven't released a full show from 2012, but look what they have done instead, which I think it cooler, if only for variety's sake.

3 songs from AftW Deluxe edition
9 songs from Summer Tour Sampler
10 songs from AftW Super Deluxe DVD
31 songs from those 2013 Summer Tour Warm-Up videos
3 songs from Warehouse 10, Volume 1

56 songs total. Granted, only 9 of these songs are from AftW. So, it seems, yes, they still aren't promoting the shit out of the album. But I feel it's good at least they've released music from 2012.

kvisser
10-09-2013, 07:41 AM
Ugh, this was when #41 was shortened too. This one is 7:54 long.

The '09 #41's when they let Jeff take over were classic...

Jayes
10-09-2013, 07:48 AM
Obviously this release is intended to heighten our appreciation for the other shady releases

gweeps
10-09-2013, 08:26 AM
The '09 #41's when they let Jeff take over were classic...The version from Lucca is pretty great.

celluloid hero
10-09-2013, 08:57 AM
hopefully, they end "Live Trax" at volume 30, start a new series, and we get some "classic" DMB shows...

When you look at the whole LT series overall up to this point, aside for a few golden releases, the series kinda blows :lol

edit: of course I'm grateful to have them, but I expected more of the releases the die-hards want. whatever.

I know your short term memory is spotty, so let me throw some of your posts out there:

23 & 24:
im looking forward to these releases...

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656327>

26:
After a few weeks, still a solid listen :smoke

really enjoy Spoon, Pig, Dreaming Tree, Grace, BOWA, Minarets, Rapunzel, WWYS, Ditch and Watchtower.

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656328>

21:
I'm pretty cool with this choice if only because of the Dan Heally mix which is gonna sound real nice especially in such an intimate setting as that stage looks to be.

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656329>

20:
This is a nice way to kick off the next set of LT's

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656331>

22:
just pre-ordered this

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656336>

18:
I dont think i'd say LT17 was a disappointment, but the top made me flip the cd 1 in the deck. I do agree that 18 is better overall performance and show when compared to 17 :smoke

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656338>

Been listening to this a lot and realllllly enjoying everything about the release

19:
definately my favorite '08 tour live release... hopefully, we get a few more live releases from both ends of that tour at some point

Grey Street from this show really brings the :rawk for me....
Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656340>

17:
This release is TITS
Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656342>



All spelling errors are SIC, by the way. That really wasn't trying very hard and only took about 5 minutes. You kind of come off as a troll in your post I quoted.

Jayes
10-09-2013, 09:00 AM
:lol awesome

italy8384
10-09-2013, 09:10 AM
Maybe Purdue wasn't shot in HD and it would look silly releasing it today?

gweeps
10-09-2013, 09:15 AM
Maybe Purdue wasn't shot in HD and it would look silly releasing it today?Yeah because they've really taken advantage of the new technology for video releases lately...

sean52692
10-09-2013, 09:20 AM
Yeah because they've really taken advantage of the new technology for video releases lately...

We need a blu ray soon.

mjf
10-09-2013, 09:31 AM
Maybe Purdue wasn't shot in HD and it would look silly releasing it today?

That's probably a good reason why we haven't seen it come out in the past 5 years. The big question for me though is why didn't they release it in '03?

'03 gets shit on alot for good reason. I still enjoy the hell out of it though. The new stuff like BEF, Bartender (updated), FTT, BS, Grey Street, Everyday (updated), that one off Captain, I'm sure I'm missing some. Even WAYG and Everyday sounded fresh.

Good selection of old stuff too, with PFWYG, Wynona, DIDO, IBYU, Seek Up, Blue Water, Dancing Nancies with the drunk man intros.. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

If the performances were up to their old standard I think we would have ranked '03 up there with the first 3 tours they did.

Jack
10-09-2013, 10:23 AM
Can't believe they wouldn't have filmed that in hd. Even if they didn't, atleast 16x9. Central Park was filmed in HD, though it has never been released as such (though I really thought it would be released in Blu-ray for the 10th anny).

maybe they just felt it wouldn't make money considering CP. Then a year goes by & 'why are we releasing a random DVD from a perdue show that fans aren't clamoring for? Lets do it right. Think big. Next time it makes sense lets do Radio City & blu-ray. Next.'

gweeps
10-09-2013, 10:31 AM
They're fools for not releasing CP BluRay...

Jack
10-09-2013, 10:38 AM
'03 gets shit on alot for good reason. I still enjoy the hell out of it though. The new stuff like BEF, Bartender (updated), FTT, BS, Grey Street, Everyday (updated), that one off Captain, I'm sure I'm missing some. Even WAYG and Everyday sounded fresh.

Good selection of old stuff too, with PFWYG, Wynona, DIDO, IBYU, Seek Up, Blue Water, Dancing Nancies with the drunk man intros.. I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

If the performances were up to their old standard I think we would have ranked '03 up there with the first 3 tours they did.

This is the type of tour I'd like a comp from. Lots of cool songs, not many great shows. If I had to pick a show I want BEF. So, I'm either going 3/25 or 3/31. Both have very interesting sets. Still like the Loving Wings > Bartender with the 'Every river' intro.

Poth Ead
10-09-2013, 10:48 AM
I know your short term memory is spotty, so let me throw some of your posts out there:

23 & 24:
im looking forward to these releases...

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656327>

26:
After a few weeks, still a solid listen :smoke

really enjoy Spoon, Pig, Dreaming Tree, Grace, BOWA, Minarets, Rapunzel, WWYS, Ditch and Watchtower.

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656328>

21:
I'm pretty cool with this choice if only because of the Dan Heally mix which is gonna sound real nice especially in such an intimate setting as that stage looks to be.

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656329>

20:
This is a nice way to kick off the next set of LT's

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656331>

22:
just pre-ordered this

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656336>

18:
I dont think i'd say LT17 was a disappointment, but the top made me flip the cd 1 in the deck. I do agree that 18 is better overall performance and show when compared to 17 :smoke

Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656338>

Been listening to this a lot and realllllly enjoying everything about the release

19:
definately my favorite '08 tour live release... hopefully, we get a few more live releases from both ends of that tour at some point

Grey Street from this show really brings the :rawk for me....
Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656340>

17:
This release is TITS
Pasted from <http://www.thesedayscontinue.org/search.php?searchid=656342>



All spelling errors are SIC, by the way. That really wasn't trying very hard and only took about 5 minutes. You kind of come off as a troll in your post I quoted.
:lol:upyours

I was in a bad mood last night

sdaltons
10-09-2013, 10:50 AM
has this free photo-book thingy always been part of the LT27 pre-order or is it something they just added as a stupid way to try to boost sales?

gweeps
10-09-2013, 10:57 AM
Still like the Loving Wings > Bartender with the 'Every river' intro.May I please get an upload of this?

drummerkrf
10-09-2013, 10:57 AM
has this free photo-book thingy always been part of the LT27 pre-order or is it something they just added as a stupid way to try to boost sales?

It was in the original email that was sent I believe.

I think I made a mockery of it back when it became official somewhere.

batleon
10-09-2013, 11:05 AM
man, they actually found a way to release a show where the one bright spot of the show's discussion thread would be us talking up how awesome parts of Live Trax ten are. I think Coran just smugly collected $1 from some VP over there... #slowclap #themaster


I know your short term memory is spotty, so let me throw some of your posts out there:

(pwnage)


Top notch boarding right here.