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Jack
02-25-2016, 05:52 PM
LIVE TRAX 37: 11.11.1992 TRAX, CHARLOTTESVILLE, VA

By November 1992, Dave Matthews Band had been performing together for just over a year. While the band had consistently made board tapes of their weekly Trax appearances, this show, recorded by John Alagia, is the very first live DMB multitrack recording.

This recording captures the freshness of the young band as they further define an already-strong approach to stage and delivery. With a 22-song set, including only 1 cover, Dave Matthews Band’s catalog was already extensive, even in the early stages of their career. The setlist contains now-classic DMB staples, such as the set-opening “The Song That Jane Likes,” “Two Step,” and “What Would You Say,” as well as THE now-retired “Spotlight.” Original founding member, Peter Griesar, plays keys throughout the show and harmonica on “So Much To Say,” and a very vocal LeRoi goads Boyd to jam freely on his violin, keeping the energy high through the encore of this must-have show.

Please note - Live Trax Vol. 37 is available for pre-order and will be released on April 8, 2016. Pre-orders will ship on or around April 5.

Tracklist:

Disc One:
1. The Song That Jane Likes
2. The Best of What's Around
3. Help Myself
4. Dancing Nancies
5. Lover Lay Down
6. True Reflections
7. Minarets
8. So Much To Say

Disc Two:
1. Recently
2. Angel From Montgomery
3. Two Step
4. Halloween
5. Pay For What You Get
6. Lie In Our Graves
7. Spotlight

Disc Three:
1. One Sweet World
2. Satellite
3. Ants Marching
4. Jimi Thing
5. What Would You Say
6. Tripping Billies
7. Warehouse

#DMDD138

patsfan39
02-25-2016, 05:52 PM
Is this good?

DMBCLSTJ
02-25-2016, 05:53 PM
...

Gotta scoop this one up, had no clue they had multi tracked in the early days.

somf4eva
02-25-2016, 05:54 PM
Almanac only has the set post Halloween. Very cool!

Also, lots improv in the second set

Tambourine Man
02-25-2016, 05:54 PM
Not 12/98 or 2002

NiCK Crush
02-25-2016, 05:57 PM
Wish this was a People People show, but I'm cool with this.

DMBZeppelin
02-25-2016, 05:59 PM
Wish this was a People People show, but I'm cool with this.

Do we know if any of the People People shows were multi track?

NiCK Crush
02-25-2016, 06:01 PM
That disc 2 is strong.

mrpeters
02-25-2016, 06:06 PM
Fuck all of these old ass shows. Isn't that what DMBLive is for? And come on...no People People still!? How many times do we need the same old performances we probably have soundboards of anyways!

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:14 PM
I am not a big 92 guy, but will buy this because I appreciate them digging deep and want to check out a multitrack from this era.

DMBZeppelin
02-25-2016, 06:18 PM
Fuck all of these old ass shows. Isn't that what DMBLive is for? And come on...no People People still!? How many times do we need the same old performances we probably have soundboards of anyways!

DMBLive is for two track recordings.

I'm with you and wish they'd just release whatever older show on DMBLive regardless of source.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:19 PM
DMBLive is for two track recordings. I'm with you and wish they'd just release whatever older show on DMBLive regardless of source. yeah things like the Muse 93 shows sucked to get a LT treatment of.

I don't see anything wrong with them hitting shows from across their career in this series. There is plenty of 3.0 stuff on LT if this doesn't suit you. We get like 4 of these a year.

NiCK Crush
02-25-2016, 06:20 PM
A poster for Live Trax releases now? Why not.

http://static.musictoday.com/store/bands/6/product_medium/DMAP646.JPG

Steveo Style
02-25-2016, 06:20 PM
Is this the first Spotlight release?

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:22 PM
Is this the first Spotlight release?

no

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:22 PM
well, on LT, yes.

somf4eva
02-25-2016, 06:23 PM
There is at least one on a dmblive

Bluewater34
02-25-2016, 06:23 PM
Meh, a '92 Peter show? Probably passing, although I am glad to see them digging back that far.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:24 PM
I feel like sales won't be great on this one.

JustinC
02-25-2016, 06:28 PM
eh, was hoping for a '97, '98, Sept. '00 or '04 show.

SeekUpAB
02-25-2016, 06:29 PM
Holy fuck yes. Why aren't we thrilled? This is fantastic.

greykitkat36
02-25-2016, 06:31 PM
Holy hot hell. This show is fun. I believe its the earliest full band show we have officially released correct?

Bluewater34
02-25-2016, 06:33 PM
Holy hot hell. This show is fun. I believe its the earliest full band show we have officially released correct?


There's a DMBLive from July '92.

ThememanXX
02-25-2016, 06:34 PM
Yawn. Pass.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:35 PM
It appears that a full version of this show is not in circulation, no? So there is that.

ThememanXX
02-25-2016, 06:37 PM
It appears that a full version of this show is not in circulation, no? So there is that.


It's something, but yeah, DMBLive.

Bluewater34
02-25-2016, 06:38 PM
It appears that a full version of this show is not in circulation, no? So there is that.


It seems like a great choice as far as documenting the band's history. I just don't care much for this era of the band's history.

JustinC
02-25-2016, 06:39 PM
Terrible cover art though...

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:40 PM
Meh, that doesn't bother me. I mean, what should the cut off for LT/DMBLive be then? Nothing before 95 on LT and nothing after 94 on DMBLive? They have kept the real early stuff to DMBLive up to this point.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:40 PM
Terrible cover art though...

Yeah, a pic from like 20+ years post this show?

greykitkat36
02-25-2016, 06:42 PM
I'm pretty shocked that no one is happy about this. Seriously? We're such a spoiled fan base haha ten years ago we'd be shitting our pants to get something like this. I know people aren't fond of the Peter era but this is probably a great show. The tape that's out there from I beleive Halloween onward is pretty awesome, I would def check this out don't write it off just yet. The shows we want will come in due time. We just got Nov '98 did you really think they were going to put another winter '98 out that quick? You guys know better than that.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:45 PM
It seems like a great choice as far as documenting the band's history. I just don't care much for this era of the band's history.

Like I said I'm not a 92 guy, but I have no problem with them spanning their career in the LT series. It is just one show and God knows there are quite a few in this series I have passed on from more recent years.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:45 PM
I'm pretty shocked that no one is happy about this. Seriously? We're such a spoiled fan base haha ten years ago we'd be shitting our pants to get something like this. I know people aren't fond of the Peter era but this is probably a great show. The tape that's out there from I beleive Halloween onward is pretty awesome, I would def check this out don't write it off just yet. The shows we want will come in due time. We just got Nov '98 did you really think they were going to put another winter '98 out that quick? You guys know better than that.

There are people that are happy/fine with it.

I with you though...especially about a 98 show.

Poth Ead
02-25-2016, 06:47 PM
Interesting pick... but I won't be purchasing this.

Bluewater34
02-25-2016, 06:47 PM
Like I said I'm not a 92 guy, but I have no problem with them spanning their career in the LT series. It is just one show and God knows there are quite a few in this series I have passed on from more recent years.


Yeah, I agree with that. I'm happy they're putting this out, even if I won't be buying it.

NiCK Crush
02-25-2016, 06:48 PM
I'll give it a buy.

Jack
02-25-2016, 06:48 PM
I am not a big 92 guy, but will buy this because I appreciate them digging deep and want to check out a multitrack from this era.

I will definitely buy this. I actually like 92 and am pretty pumped for this. People are out of their minds if they think this doesn't belong in this series. A show like this makes total sense for their 25th anniversary.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 06:49 PM
I will definitely buy this. I actually like 92 and am pretty pumped for this. People are out of their minds if they think this doesn't belong in this series. A show like this makes total sense for their 25th anniversary. agreed.

ThememanXX
02-25-2016, 07:00 PM
A show like this makes total sense for their 25th anniversary.


Totally.

Crush87
02-25-2016, 07:18 PM
Is this the "Last Call" Boyd jam? If so I remember having this way back when. A great show.

cryfreedom09
02-25-2016, 07:40 PM
Holy fuck yes. Why aren't we thrilled? This is fantastic.

I'm very thrilled for this. I've thoroughly enjoyed the 2 dmblives from this era. Love the jammed out feel to the 1992 shows.

BeaufordBuddy
02-25-2016, 08:09 PM
Yeah, a pic from like 20+ years post this show?

The pic is definitely from that time.

Mersh
02-25-2016, 08:12 PM
The pic is definitely from that time.

Maybe it is because I looked at it on my phone. I will check it again.

edit: Yup, I was wrong. Definitely a 92-95 pic.

Not a great cover though

last72stop
02-25-2016, 08:12 PM
The pic is definitely from that time.

:lol is Stefan's hair blonde

Jack
02-25-2016, 08:23 PM
I don't know why I find it interesting they refer to Spotlight as 'retired,' but I do. Not 'long dorment,' or some shit. Retired. Deader than fuck.

Excuse me, THE now retired Spotlight.

BeaufordBuddy
02-25-2016, 08:41 PM
:lol is Stefan's hair blonde

He was going through a Kurt Cobain phase.

BeaufordBuddy
02-25-2016, 08:41 PM
Maybe it is because I looked at it on my phone. I will check it again.

edit: Yup, I was wrong. Definitely a 92-95 pic.

Not a great cover though

Agreed

JimBeam41
02-25-2016, 08:51 PM
Looks like a great show, but nothing I'm interested in buying. I feel like I have a ton of similar shows from 92 easily available to me.

Was hoping for the summer 98, 9/00, spring 02, July 2004 show.

soright05
02-25-2016, 09:06 PM
Spring 02 needs to be next. Hell any 02

sean52692
02-25-2016, 09:11 PM
Is this the "Last Call" Boyd jam? If so I remember having this way back when. A great show.

I think so. This Ants is pretty great too. I'm pretty surprised they chose this one for a release, I don't think it's a great show, but it's fairly good. Can't wait to be able to give it a full listen with the LT treatment.

Also, I just listened to this show a few months ago and I remember Warehouse being pretty great with minimal Peter shenanigans.

Tomacco
02-25-2016, 09:29 PM
Not that excited by this. Have enough '93 stuff. And what I've heard from '92 I'm not keen on. But should be interesting anyway. Cool that it's the first full mixed show, that's for sure. I'll listen.

greykitkat36
02-25-2016, 09:44 PM
No really you will not regret listening to this show and the fact that we don't have a compete tape of the show in circulation makes it even a better choice. This is roots DMB, without shows like this, the band wouldn't be who they are today. I'm def buying.

dmb2much40
02-25-2016, 10:07 PM
Looks like a great show, but nothing I'm interested in buying. I feel like I have a ton of similar shows from 92 easily available to me.

Was hoping for the summer 98, 9/00, spring 02, July 2004 show.

My sentiment as well

sean52692
02-25-2016, 10:08 PM
No really you will not regret listening to this show and the fact that we don't have a compete tape of the show in circulation makes it even a better choice. This is roots DMB, without shows like this, the band wouldn't be who they are today. I'm def buying.

+1

Definitely buying this one.

Tomacco
02-25-2016, 10:15 PM
No really you will not regret listening to this show and the fact that we don't have a compete tape of the show in circulation makes it even a better choice. This is roots DMB, without shows like this, the band wouldn't be who they are today. I'm def buying.

I totally get and appreciate this POV. It had to start somewhere. But this sound is probably my least favorite DMB. Roi is the only thing I like a lot about it. He wails in those early years. But Dave's voice is so nasal, his guitar sounds too light and hollow IMO, and I truly dislike Peter Grieser's Casio keyboard sound more than most of you hate Rashawn and the Lovely Ladies. I like having a couple shows from this era, but I don't really ever listen to pre-1995 shows.

NiCK Crush
02-26-2016, 02:18 AM
A show like this makes total sense for their 25th anniversary.

It definitely is, although if the 25th anniversary has anything to do with this selection then the cover art is a real head scratcher.

K270
02-26-2016, 03:30 AM
Yeah, a pic from like 20+ years post this show?

Do we know where the photo is from?

Mersh
02-26-2016, 05:24 AM
Do we know where the photo is from? I was wrong.

Mitch
02-26-2016, 08:28 AM
Fuck all of these old ass shows. Isn't that what DMBLive is for?

not for multi-track, no


I am not a big 92 guy, but will buy this because I appreciate them digging deep and want to check out a multitrack from this era.

This. I'm not much of a Peter era fan, but a multi-track of such an early show is cool. I just hope Peter's Casio keyboard is low in the mix.

I will definitely buy this. I actually like 92 and am pretty pumped for this. People are out of their minds if they think this doesn't belong in this series. A show like this makes total sense for their 25th anniversary.

:upyours

batleon
02-26-2016, 09:04 AM
So in another thread I was talking about the vast library of releases we have now making me feel pickier about what I'd be willing to pay for. So I thought, "what would I be willing to drop some Cash Money on?" and the list ended up being longer than I thought, though pretty specific:

Multi-track Griesar era show: If such a thing exists and they could put it together, I'd buy it

Multi-track '94 show: Ditto if they did a '94 release too. They were filming the WWYS video during a 3 night stand at the Fox in Boulder Colorado in November of '94. It's possible they could have been recording in multitrack at the time and maybe they could give us a nice little compilation of the 3 night stand a la Live Trax 30

Specific 1995 shows: We've got so many '95 releases now, but there are still some shows I'd take - the RSO shows, 8/15, and 8/20

Cow Palace '96 - CAASH baby

Early Summer '97 with the Flecktones - I'd take anything, but preferably 6/8

Any show I was at - I'm sure you'd all do the same, but in particular 5/30/99, 7/7/04, 6/21/08, 6/13/09, and 6/8/13 would all make good releases aside from being some of the best shows I attended

The only open ended years for me are 1998 and 2000 now. I'd take just about anything from those years, but in particular:
1998 - One of the Herbie Hancock shows, 8/7, 12/3, 12/7, or a good show with Greg Howard
2000 - As much of the September run that they're willing to give, I'd take

I'd probably also be willing to drop cash on a top notch show from 2002 or 2004 as well.

What would your list look like?

Check.

Keep making your way down this list DMB camp, please? I am happy with what we've gotten in the last year and this is no exception.

I remember listening to the incomplete recording of this show and loving "Boyd's Blues" or "Last Call Jam" or whatever you want to call it. I don't see it on the tracklist here but I assume, based on the description of the show, that it's here because Leroi was totally egging Boyd on during that Improv.

So yeah, Griesar era isn't my favorite but I will be buying this one.

batleon
02-26-2016, 09:09 AM
I guess it's too bad there is no Blue Water on this one, but that is nitpicking.

Also this Halloween is awesome :rawk

I'm going to take a stab and say the first couple of tracks on this are probably Dave solo too, right? At least Jane and BOWA?

priceofacoke910
02-26-2016, 09:19 AM
Meh, that doesn't bother me. I mean, what should the cut off for LT/DMBLive be then? Nothing before 95 on LT and nothing after 94 on DMBLive? They have kept the real early stuff to DMBLive up to this point.

I'm pretty sure it has a lot to do with whether or not it is multi-tracked.

KerwinMcgee
02-26-2016, 09:22 AM
I respect this pick but I have a really hard time listening to 1992 shows

blumathu
02-26-2016, 09:23 AM
Dude this is GREAT! I am definitely purchasing this one. A multi-track from '92, with Griesar, and Spotlight? Sign me up and keep the good picks coming.

Mersh
02-26-2016, 09:41 AM
I'm pretty sure it has a lot to do with whether or not it is multi-tracked. I understand. I was talking about people saying old shows should only be DMBLive releases regardless.

cryfreedom09
02-26-2016, 10:06 AM
I understand. I was talking about people saying old shows should only be DMBLive releases regardless.

I can't get behind this logic. Why wouldn't you want it to sound better?

TheNoise
02-26-2016, 10:13 AM
http://i.imgur.com/wQSnk63.jpg

celluloid hero
02-26-2016, 10:22 AM
I have zero personal interest in this show itself. But what I am excited to hear is a multi-track recording. Part of the reason I hate 1992 DMB is Peter is so loud with the keys. But every show we have is mixed for the house. So instruments whose noise travels, like the horns and drums are turned way down in the mix and an instrument like Peter's that comes all through the soundboard will be louder. I really want to hear that band's instrumentation properly mixed. If Peter sits in the background of the mix, it's probably much truer to the way they actually sounded at Trax in 1992 than any recording that we've previously had. I think that's the most exciting thing about this release.

ThememanXX
02-26-2016, 10:33 AM
I have zero personal interest in this show itself. But what I am excited to hear is a multi-track recording. Part of the reason I hate 1992 DMB is Peter is so loud with the keys. But every show we have is mixed for the house. So instruments whose noise travels, like the horns and drums are turned way down in the mix and an instrument like Peter's that comes all through the soundboard will be louder. I really want to hear that band's instrumentation properly mixed. If Peter sits in the background of the mix, it's probably much truer to the way they actually sounded at Trax in 1992 than any recording that we've previously had. I think that's the most exciting thing about this release.

Need to copy/paste this into the first post. That's a fantastic point.

Mitch
02-26-2016, 10:35 AM
I have zero personal interest in this show itself. But what I am excited to hear is a multi-track recording. Part of the reason I hate 1992 DMB is Peter is so loud with the keys. But every show we have is mixed for the house. So instruments whose noise travels, like the horns and drums are turned way down in the mix and an instrument like Peter's that comes all through the soundboard will be louder. I really want to hear that band's instrumentation properly mixed. If Peter sits in the background of the mix, it's probably much truer to the way they actually sounded at Trax in 1992 than any recording that we've previously had. I think that's the most exciting thing about this release.

yup :upyours

batleon
02-26-2016, 11:39 AM
Great point. The right mix is going to be critical for this. Reserving a pre-order until we get some clips.

roshea999
02-26-2016, 11:52 AM
Wow just saw this. What a cool release

CRUSHsoccer15
02-26-2016, 12:23 PM
2002 and 2004 need some love.

Josh.0
02-26-2016, 02:25 PM
I don't really love early DMB's sound. It wasn't as full as it was from about '96 - '04 and Dave's voice is always too nasally for me.

I won't be buying. I'll leave this one for the diehards of the early versions.

And Spotlight sucks.

celluloid hero
02-26-2016, 02:36 PM
Oh I hope there's a crowd mic as well so they don't sound like they're playing a free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd.

Bluewater34
02-26-2016, 02:51 PM
Oh I hope there's a crowd mic as well so they don't sound like they're playing a free-form jazz exploration in front of a festival crowd.


http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160226/7b6b48a8158b184c072918407a5e5917.jpg

The more I think about it and see some of the points being made here, the more I think I may actually buy this after all. I may not listen to it more than a couple of times, but I want to encourage them to keep digging back, and I am curious what a multi-track from '92 sounds like.

greykitkat36
02-26-2016, 03:01 PM
The multitrack comments are so spot on. Board and house mixes aren't at all representative of the actual sound of the band they are based on how the sound guy mixed the room on that night, and like it has been said before, the instruments that are naturally louder are quieter on those recordings because there is less of a need to blend them. Multitrack means that every instruments level and tone can be adjusted and mixed to perfection--and what we will be getting is the BEST possible sounding show we've ever had from this era, and it's going to become one of the most revered releases, I'm telling you. Hearing the band durn g this fun experimental era is a treat and especially now with such a good quality tape coming out.

The Godfather
02-26-2016, 07:19 PM
Spotlight :rawk

The Godfather
02-26-2016, 07:20 PM
The multitrack comments are so spot on. Board and house mixes aren't at all representative of the actual sound of the band they are based on how the sound guy mixed the room on that night, and like it has been said before, the instruments that are naturally louder are quieter on those recordings because there is less of a need to blend them. Multitrack means that every instruments level and tone can be adjusted and mixed to perfection--and what we will be getting is the BEST possible sounding show we've ever had from this era, and it's going to become one of the most revered releases, I'm telling you. Hearing the band durn g this fun experimental era is a treat and especially now with such a good quality tape coming out.

I concur. :upyours:upyours

Poth Ead
02-27-2016, 12:05 AM
I have zero personal interest in this show itself. But what I am excited to hear is a multi-track recording. Part of the reason I hate 1992 DMB is Peter is so loud with the keys. But every show we have is mixed for the house. So instruments whose noise travels, like the horns and drums are turned way down in the mix and an instrument like Peter's that comes all through the soundboard will be louder. I really want to hear that band's instrumentation properly mixed. If Peter sits in the background of the mix, it's probably much truer to the way they actually sounded at Trax in 1992 than any recording that we've previously had. I think that's the most exciting thing about this release.

I was thinking about this as well. The fact we have a chance to hear their true sound in 1992 with a proper mix is, indeed, exciting

SomeDevil17
02-27-2016, 02:42 AM
http://i.imgur.com/wQSnk63.jpg

Glad that Rashawn guy finally took a break from the spotlight.

Tomacco
02-27-2016, 09:17 AM
I'm reserving judgment about the mix until I hear it. I'm not expecting it to sound THAT different.

doug_gill
02-27-2016, 09:42 AM
Are there any auds from 92 out there? I'm expecting Peter's sound to be significantly less obnoxious than the sbds we have. Either way, definitely picking this one up, thrilled to see them digging deep.

greykitkat36
02-27-2016, 12:22 PM
I'm reserving judgment about the mix until I hear it. I'm not expecting it to sound THAT different.

Think again. Multitrack mixes sound way better than a board mix. Look at the last '98 DMBLive...only a 2 channel mix...still sounds decent but nowhere near as good as a multitrack mix such as on LT1 for example.

DIDO36
02-28-2016, 08:07 PM
I'm excited about this release. It's probably not going to be much different then the muse release but it's still going to be an awesome release.

Mitch
02-28-2016, 08:27 PM
I'm excited about this release. It's probably not going to be much different then the muse release but it's still going to be an awesome release.

It'll be pretty different than that. Griesar was gone after March '93, and the band had further evolved by August '93.

Bluewater34
02-28-2016, 08:41 PM
It'll be pretty different than that. Griesar was gone after March '93, and the band had further evolved by August '93.


Yeah, Fall '92 and Aug. '93 are very different beasts.

DIDO36
02-28-2016, 08:44 PM
Yeah, I'm not an expert on early dmb. Mostly, I listen to 95 and up.

DIDO36
02-28-2016, 08:47 PM
I do know one thing Dave's singing voice wasn't developed much in 92 or even 93. I think by 94 it was much better and I know it was better in 95.

batleon
02-29-2016, 09:04 AM
I hope we get some clips soon. Still going to hold off on pre-ordering to make sure they get the mix right.

Jack
02-29-2016, 09:22 AM
I have faith they get this mix right.

batleon
02-29-2016, 10:52 AM
I do too for the most part but I've become cautious about pre-ordering since the UTTAD debacle. Just want to be sure.

sean52692
02-29-2016, 12:03 PM
I do know one thing Dave's singing voice wasn't developed much in 92 or even 93. I think by 94 it was much better and I know it was better in 95.

He had a really free, light, and fun singing style early on. I like it for what it is. I agree it definitely developed sometime in 1993.

Fan#41
03-01-2016, 12:43 PM
Not overly excited about this. But it could be a cool listen.

dmb448
03-02-2016, 06:24 PM
I cannot wait to hear this! It will be nice to have another early show from this band.

celluloid hero
03-16-2016, 01:23 PM
http://davematthewsband.shop.musictoday.com/Dept.aspx?cp=1_81211

Help Myself up. I never think the mixes sound any good on the previews. Sounds interesting, though.

roshea999
03-16-2016, 01:26 PM
god damn peter :boohoo

But this will be a cool release.

roshea999
03-16-2016, 01:26 PM
Help Myself is such a cool tune. Hope it gets some plays this summer.

ThememanXX
03-16-2016, 01:27 PM
Help Myself is such a cool tune. Hope it gets some plays this summer.

Nah, Boyd will totally butcher it like he did a few years ago.

celluloid hero
03-16-2016, 01:29 PM
Nah, Boyd will totally butcher it like he did a few years ago.

Maybe to cover up for it, they should only play heavier tunes in an electric set, and make everything more homogeneous and full of sound and energy, with less intricate detail and individual solos.

cryfreedom09
03-16-2016, 02:25 PM
Maybe to cover up for it, they should only play heavier tunes in an electric set, and make everything more homogeneous and full of sound and energy, with less intricate detail and individual solos.

Oh wait...

JustinC
03-16-2016, 03:00 PM
I thought he sounded alright for his current standards when they played it in 2013

ThememanXX
03-16-2016, 03:10 PM
Maybe to cover up for it, they should only play heavier tunes in an electric set, and make everything more homogeneous and full of sound and energy, with less intricate detail and individual solos.

I see what you did there. See also: the acoustic set.

Bluewater34
03-16-2016, 04:15 PM
god damn peter :boohoo


As much as I want to support this, I think listening to this track just put me squarely in the "no, thank you" camp. I just do not enjoy shows with Peter.

ThememanXX
03-16-2016, 05:40 PM
god damn peter :boohoo

But this will be a cool release.

To be fair, Peter's more obnoxious on "Desperate Hours" than most tunes. That said, yeah, yeesh.

greykitkat36
03-16-2016, 06:29 PM
Wow this sounds fantastic. Cannot wait to hear the rest of this show. I honestly don't mind Peter as much as everyone else does at least on this particular mix. And some of what he does in the verses is kind of what Tim does on the '13 versions,

Agreed that this song kicks ass and would love to hear it again this summer its by far one of my favorite DMB songs. Haven't heard it since '03 and that was the only time for me.

Hopper
03-16-2016, 08:28 PM
Is there a link to the clip that works on mobile?

Tomacco
03-16-2016, 08:53 PM
So, the whole hype about the mix being a big deal and would drown out Peter.... Peter is just as loud or louder than the usual SBD mixes here. Not a huge fan.

Poth Ead
03-16-2016, 09:13 PM
to me, the mix sounds fuckin great :smoke

this will be a good listen but how will it hold up against the rest of the series? that's pretty much my own standard question to myself before each new live release

Jayes
03-16-2016, 11:48 PM
Somebody said it the other day, but part of the flak Peter catches is caused by his inevitable height in the board mixes compared to the other inputs. I still think a lot of it is cheesy, but some of it is tasteful buried down in the mix where it belongs.

Jack
03-17-2016, 06:55 AM
Somebody said it the other day, but part of the flak Peter catches is caused by his inevitable height in the board mixes compared to the other inputs. I still think a lot of it is cheesy, but some of it is tasteful buried down in the mix where it belongs.

Yup. Celluloid brought that up. I thought that was an awesome point that I had never considered before. Very excited to hear the action show.

batleon
03-17-2016, 08:03 AM
Yeah this is about what I was hoping for a mix. I dig it.

greykitkat36
03-17-2016, 09:38 AM
I'm loving carters drums, that's the biggest surprise to me..they sound fantastic, was not expecting that from a 92 release.

cryfreedom09
03-17-2016, 02:16 PM
I'm loving carters drums, that's the biggest surprise to me..they sound fantastic, was not expecting that from a 92 release.

Why is that? It's a multitrack and Carter is the most talented musician in the band. I knew he'd be killing it on a 92' recording.

cryfreedom09
03-17-2016, 02:19 PM
That entire rhythm section is killing it.

Thrawn
03-17-2016, 07:34 PM
How many different keyboard effects do you need on the same song? Fuck. I think Peter's keeping me away from this one too.

Tomacco
03-17-2016, 09:32 PM
How many different keyboard effects do you need on the same song? Fuck. I think Peter's keeping me away from this one too.

Yeah. Carter is great here though. I'll give this one a listen out of curiosity once it's out.

greykitkat36
03-20-2016, 05:18 PM
Why is that? It's a multitrack and Carter is the most talented musician in the band. I knew he'd be killing it on a 92' recording.

I meant the actual "sound" of his drums, not his playing--we all knew that would be amazing. It's really difficult to get a good live drum sound especially at a small club where everyone is super close and there's tons of mic bleed. This was long before DMB had the money to pay the sound guys and recording experts they have now--so the fact they were able to mic that kit up and get it to sound somewhat decent is surprising to me. I know a shitload can be done in post-editing with multitrack, but the initial recording still has to be pretty good to get them to sound that good.

cryfreedom09
03-20-2016, 09:28 PM
I meant the actual "sound" of his drums, not his playing--we all knew that would be amazing. It's really difficult to get a good live drum sound especially at a small club where everyone is super close and there's tons of mic bleed. This was long before DMB had the money to pay the sound guys and recording experts they have now--so the fact they were able to mic that kit up and get it to sound somewhat decent is surprising to me. I know a shitload can be done in post-editing with multitrack, but the initial recording still has to be pretty good to get them to sound that good.

Fair enough

jeff1818
03-23-2016, 07:11 PM
I love 1992.

batleon
03-29-2016, 01:22 PM
I almost forgot to pre-order this :duh

Actually pretty excited to get this next week. Should be a fun listen.

greykitkat36
03-29-2016, 03:14 PM
I almost forgot to pre-order this :duh

Actually pretty excited to get this next week. Should be a fun listen.

:upyours

Wish they'd put up another clip. That help myself kicked ass..amazed at how big and full the band sounds for such an early show in their career.

ThememanXX
03-30-2016, 10:27 AM
I'm really having a tough time with how high Peter is in the mix. :\

Mersh
03-30-2016, 10:50 AM
I'm really having a tough time with how high Peter is in the mix. :\ we are here for you, man.

ThememanXX
03-30-2016, 10:53 AM
we are here for you, man.

<3

greykitkat36
03-31-2016, 01:58 PM
I'm really having a tough time with how high Peter is in the mix. :\

He does a lot of annoying stuff on Help Myself he's not as offensive on other songs

Mersh
04-01-2016, 05:48 PM
Delayed.

soright05
04-01-2016, 05:52 PM
Hahah typical

cryfreedom09
04-05-2016, 09:23 PM
Kinda bummed this is delayed. Been working 7 days a week for about 2 months with tax season and was really looking forward to this during the last week of tax season. Oh well. I've listened to the Help Myself and really like what I hear.

greykitkat36
04-05-2016, 09:53 PM
Yup but this release will be awesome for the drive down to CVille

sean52692
04-06-2016, 12:14 PM
But it isn't delayed?

K270
04-06-2016, 12:22 PM
But it isn't delayed?


Someone didn't change the title. It was pushed back from an April 8th release to an April 15th release.

sean52692
04-06-2016, 12:27 PM
Someone didn't change the title. It was pushed back from an April 8th release to an April 15th release.

Am I the only one who thought that email was an April Fools joke?

Mersh
04-06-2016, 12:51 PM
Yes.

sean52692
04-06-2016, 01:05 PM
Damn

cryfreedom09
04-06-2016, 02:45 PM
Am I the only one who thought that email was an April Fools joke?

That would first require me to believe they are human

Mersh
04-06-2016, 02:52 PM
It would just be a terribly unfunny joke. I mean a LT being delayed by a week? Hilarious.

MaLaKaS
04-10-2016, 04:18 AM
Just listened to the Help Myself clip. Peter is high in the mix, but the overall mix of the band sounds great. I'm thinking about preordering this one for my drive down to the Cville show. Then again, there are a few other DMBlive shows that I could get instead as well. Hmm...

cryfreedom09
04-11-2016, 03:25 PM
Any shipping confirmations yet?

Jack
04-11-2016, 03:28 PM
Any shipping confirmations yet?

Ships April 15, no?

Mersh
04-11-2016, 04:03 PM
Ships April 15, no? I believe so.

cryfreedom09
04-12-2016, 07:40 AM
Ships April 15, no?

Ok thanks. I though we were getting it around the 15th.

dancetheham
04-12-2016, 08:12 AM
Yeah, the new official release date is 4/19. I wonder why they moved it from a Friday to a Tuesday when they've been following the new industry standard of releasing new albums on Fridays up to this point?

gweeps
04-12-2016, 08:22 AM
DMB not only plays what they want, but they ship when they want, too!

Bluewater34
04-12-2016, 08:32 AM
Yeah, the new official release date is 4/19. I wonder why they moved it from a Friday to a Tuesday when they've been following the new industry standard of releasing new albums on Fridays up to this point?
I would assume that it's probably the earliest they could get them out after whatever caused the delay.

Sent from my LGLK430 using Tapatalk

ThememanXX
04-12-2016, 08:59 AM
Needed to add that 'Be Yourself' studio track as filler.

Jayes
04-12-2016, 12:27 PM
DMB not only plays what they want, but they ship when they want, too!

:lol

MaLaKaS
04-12-2016, 01:02 PM
DMB not only plays what they want, but they ship when they want, too!



:lol awesome

Jayes
04-12-2016, 02:44 PM
DMB: Please stop listening so we can just go home

Bluewater34
04-12-2016, 03:03 PM
DMB: Please stop listening so we can just go home



:lol

MaLaKaS
04-12-2016, 10:28 PM
DMB: Please stop listening so we can just go home



:lol

batleon
04-14-2016, 03:41 PM
Just got a shipping email.

Mitch
04-15-2016, 03:33 PM
The downloads are up in the store.

Jack
04-15-2016, 03:34 PM
oh, sweet titties.

Mersh
04-15-2016, 03:36 PM
Huh, well then.

edit: I don't see them

edit 2: I am dumb

cryfreedom09
04-15-2016, 04:06 PM
Huh, well then.

edit: I don't see them

edit 2: I am dumb

I've waited for this day a long time. We finally agree on something :lol

I kid I kid

cryfreedom09
04-15-2016, 04:07 PM
Damnit I ordered the discs because I usually get them before the downloads are up. Grrrr I wanna hear this.

Mersh
04-15-2016, 04:29 PM
Damnit I ordered the discs because I usually get them before the downloads are up. Grrrr I wanna hear this. I'm listening right now. I'd send you a pm, but well, see previous post.

cryfreedom09
04-15-2016, 04:48 PM
I'm listening right now. I'd send you a pm, but well, see previous post.

I only pick on the people I like :lol

Mersh
04-15-2016, 04:54 PM
I was kidding. I don't actually have it yet.

cryfreedom09
04-15-2016, 04:58 PM
I was kidding. I don't actually have it yet.

:upyours

mrpeters
04-15-2016, 06:59 PM
Digital downloads up when for this? Tuesday?

soright05
04-15-2016, 07:20 PM
Digital downloads up when for this? Tuesday?

you can download it now in the store

Thrawn
04-15-2016, 07:39 PM
Listened to some other previews and they weren't as ridiculously Peter-heavy as Help Myself, so I went for it.

It is genuinely remarkable how clear, well-recorded, and well-mixed this sounds.

blumathu
04-15-2016, 09:18 PM
Would it kill them to give us downloads if we bought the CD.

Jack
04-16-2016, 07:17 AM
Has anyone listened and care to give a report? Us disc suckers are stuck with the wait for the time being.

Poth Ead
04-16-2016, 01:48 PM
im getting curious. I listened to a few clips on the website.

Thrawn
04-16-2016, 03:58 PM
I'm not the best person to post a review, since I've always liked Butch DMB the best and never really listened to anything from the early 90s. Even in 00-02 when I was massively into tape trading, my collection pretty much began in 1998. Now, I still don't have any of the DMBLive series except the '98 show.

But: I found this pretty fascinating. Tons of arrangements I've never heard before, truly shockingly good sound, Peter is mixed well, and the performance is top notch. They haven't played a Billies this tight in 15 years. I thought it was going to be a historical oddity I'd listen to once, but I'm enjoying this enough to listen again for sure.

If you already are familiar with all the 1992 arrangements and jams and Peter parts and everything, you may find it much less fascinating than me, but I bet you'll still be surprised how great it sounds.

Mersh
04-16-2016, 04:19 PM
Dude, listen to some DMBLive. I mean at least stuff like 4.7.95 and 4.5.95.

greppson
04-16-2016, 04:30 PM
love hearing the 92 arrangements on songs.

decided to pick it up today and i'm enjoying what i am hearing.

soright05
04-16-2016, 05:20 PM
Who has high res art

soright05
04-16-2016, 06:38 PM
Love listening to this, great release

greppson
04-16-2016, 07:18 PM
somebody posted this somewhere, but here ya go.

http://i64.tinypic.com/122f2no.jpg

greppson
04-16-2016, 07:30 PM
this recently is tight.

soright05
04-16-2016, 07:36 PM
thanks

BeaufordBuddy
04-16-2016, 08:57 PM
This drum solo on Two Step holy fuck.

soright05
04-16-2016, 08:59 PM
this recently is tight.



Wow. This

Bluewater34
04-16-2016, 09:39 PM
My will is starting to crumble. I'm going to end up with this thing.

greykitkat36
04-17-2016, 10:08 AM
This show is just as good as I thought it would be. So tight, so inspired, just fantastic. You can tell they were really hitting that next level...as early 1993 would make Peter leave the band as the band exploded. This is one of those "next level" shows for the Time period. Similar to how 12.31.93 for Phish kind of marked the end of an era for them as the following year they were headlining arenas for the first time.

This show for those following the band was one of those moments where they thought "this might be the last time I can see them this close, for this cheap"

kitkat
04-17-2016, 01:36 PM
the wait continues for me...glad y'all are enjoying it!

Jack
04-17-2016, 02:43 PM
This drum solo on Two Step holy fuck.

Pretty decent little two step.

cryfreedom09
04-17-2016, 05:08 PM
the wait continues for me...glad y'all are enjoying it!

Seriously. We were supposed to have this over a week ago. Sux

Jack
04-17-2016, 06:07 PM
Seriously. We were supposed to have this over a week ago. Sux

Well, atleast they put the dd up as early as possible for people. That was a cool move imho.

cryfreedom09
04-17-2016, 10:34 PM
Well, atleast they put the dd up as early as possible for people. That was a cool move imho.

If you say so :lol

Jack
04-18-2016, 02:38 AM
If you say so :lol

I do. They could have waited 5 more days.

cryfreedom09
04-18-2016, 08:19 AM
I do. They could have waited 5 more days.

I know I agree. I'm just being a grouch because I don't have it yet.

Mersh
04-18-2016, 02:59 PM
Thought this would show up today...it did not.

SonofSuns34
04-18-2016, 03:40 PM
I feel like I need to take a downer after that OSW in doubletime

blumathu
04-18-2016, 03:52 PM
My tracking number has no info at all. Who knows when it'll arrive.

Mersh
04-18-2016, 04:13 PM
My tracking number has no info at all. Who knows when it'll arrive. same

Habbs
04-18-2016, 06:05 PM
I feel like I need to take a downer after that OSW in doubletime

I probably won't listen to this release for a long time, but this comment brought back memories of what is probably my favorite 92 show I've heard, 7/31/92. Crazy fast One Sweet World right after Blue Water, good stuff.

Mersh
04-18-2016, 06:21 PM
So, I wasn't sure I would like this show all that much (enjoy early DMB, love 93, but 92 is not a year I revisit often with the exception of a couple shows), but I am through about half of it and I am pleasantly surprised.

Mersh
04-19-2016, 06:02 AM
So, this Recently...

blumathu
04-19-2016, 07:37 AM
So, this Recently...

Go on...

batleon
04-19-2016, 07:50 AM
Hope I get this today.

Mersh
04-19-2016, 07:57 AM
I hope you get it too.

SonofSuns34
04-19-2016, 08:08 AM
I am at work so i just have this on in the background, but i am really liking what is happening with this outro to Ants.

priceofacoke910
04-19-2016, 08:40 AM
I'm digging this show.....the mix isn't awful!

Mersh
04-19-2016, 08:47 AM
I'm digging this show.....the mix isn't awful! rave review.

I think the mix is pretty good...so much better than what we have had from 92 SBDs up to this point.

sean52692
04-19-2016, 09:11 AM
I ordered the CD and they sent it to one of my old addresses. Not sure how that happened, I must have ordered it quickly without double checking the shipping address. Odd because I've got several things from the DMB store delivered to my real address recently.

Tempted to download the flacs.

Mitch
04-19-2016, 09:55 AM
So, this Recently...

Hot

blumathu
04-19-2016, 09:58 AM
Out for delivery!!

priceofacoke910
04-19-2016, 10:42 AM
I'm digging it.

DMBCLSTJ
04-19-2016, 12:40 PM
Yikes Peter makes some tunes unlistenable. Just terrible....

Bluewater34
04-19-2016, 01:26 PM
Yikes Peter makes some tunes unlistenable. Just terrible....



This is what's making hold back from getting this thing. I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger on a Peter show. But I want to hear some of it. I'll probably break down at some point, but I'm not there yet.

SeekUpAB
04-19-2016, 01:33 PM
Figured I'd get this today. Shipped last Wed and is still in WV. That's pretty bad for them.

Mersh
04-19-2016, 01:51 PM
This is what's making hold back from getting this thing. I just can't bring myself to pull the trigger on a Peter show. But I want to hear some of it. I'll probably break down at some point, but I'm not there yet. it really isn't very Peter heavy IMO.

Mersh
04-19-2016, 03:58 PM
They reused the LT 30 cover photo on the inside of the sleeve for this one.

cryfreedom09
04-19-2016, 07:01 PM
I'm a fucking sucker. Good reviews caused me to drop the extra $13.29 to listen to it early. Not the dumbest thing I've ever done :lol. Sounds reall good.

Thrawn
04-19-2016, 07:08 PM
I feel like I need to take a downer after that OSW in doubletime

This is ridiculously fun.

greppson
04-19-2016, 08:32 PM
two step and recently. and the jams after ants.

damn.

greykitkat36
04-19-2016, 10:32 PM
I'm a fucking sucker. Good reviews caused me to drop the extra $13.29 to listen to it early. Not the dumbest thing I've ever done :lol. Sounds reall good.

:upyours support good releases. This show sounds really really great for 1992..the band barely had a crew at that point, yet this multitrack sounds amazing.

torres
04-20-2016, 02:38 AM
Am currently downloading the FLACs without having nearly crushed my computer in rage. Some new program called Delivery Agent. Working great. Excited to listen tomorrow.

torres
04-20-2016, 03:06 AM
Oh, man. This is wonderful. Love this Lover Lay Down. The bass and sax work especially.

Spotlight is so fun.

Bluewater34
04-20-2016, 08:14 AM
So, this Recently...



Yeah, this might be a top 10. This Angel from Montgomery really took me by surprise with its power. Also, I know not a lot of people are with me on this, but I prefer BOWA at that slightly slower tempo. Finally, I really do not enjoy the contributions of Peter Greisar. Pretty much universally. On Two Step now, and this band is on fire at this point in this show.

Bluewater34
04-20-2016, 08:18 AM
Good god, Roi's solo on this Two Step is ridiculous.

ThememanXX
04-20-2016, 08:47 AM
I prefer BOWA at that slightly slower tempo

Agreed.

Mitch
04-20-2016, 10:32 AM
I prefer BOWA at that slightly slower tempo. .

Agreed.

I'm with you boys

Poth Ead
04-20-2016, 10:35 AM
Same. Perfect BOWA here.

Mix is pretty awesome throughout.

celluloid hero
04-20-2016, 10:51 AM
Not me, I don't think it gets much better than Red Rocks Best, which is close to the speed of light.

batleon
04-20-2016, 11:02 AM
So I'm only through Jane and I'm already digging this. I've never been Peter's biggest fan but some of the earliest recordings I listened to were PG-era DMB so this is bringing me back.

sean52692
04-20-2016, 11:18 AM
Finally, I really do not enjoy the contributions of Peter Greisar. Pretty much universally.

You gotta enjoy his harmonica work on SMTS and Minarets.

batleon
04-20-2016, 11:51 AM
Honestly I've always liked his fills on Nancies so it's nice to have a good version like this.

blumathu
04-20-2016, 11:53 AM
They reused the LT 30 cover photo on the inside of the sleeve for this one.

Not exactly, it's clearly the same show but is a different photo.

Bluewater34
04-20-2016, 12:31 PM
You gotta enjoy his harmonica work on SMTS and Minarets.



I do like SMTS with the harmonica. I do not enjoy what Peter does on Minarets.

batleon
04-20-2016, 01:56 PM
The run from Minarets through Two Step to end the first set just reminds me that this band was hot as fuck at less than two years old :rawk

Tomacco
04-20-2016, 07:39 PM
I like this BOWA because of how audible Boyd is. I rarely have ever paid much attention to him during this tune.

Poth Ead
04-20-2016, 07:41 PM
Sweet Jesus Leroi - Recently :smoke

batleon
04-21-2016, 08:06 AM
This Recently and Two Step alone are worth the price of admission.

Bluewater34
04-21-2016, 08:36 AM
This Recently and Two Step alone are worth the price of admission.



Agreed. The whole show is great, but those two performances really stand out.

batleon
04-21-2016, 08:50 AM
When I said last year I was willing to pay cash for a well mixed, multi track PG era show it was more the completist in me speaking, but this release went above and beyond expectations. This will get some replay from me for sure. Well done.

Mersh
04-21-2016, 09:09 AM
Probably won't relisten to the whole show often, but there are some great tracks on it. Interesting/good release.

Bluewater34
04-21-2016, 09:31 AM
Probably won't relisten to the whole show often, but there are some great tracks on it. Interesting/good release.

Yup. I almost never reach for shows from the Peter era, but there are definitely songs that I'll be returning to pretty often, and I can see myself getting a pull to listen to the whole thing maybe once a year or so. Considering that I just tried to listen to the Jan '93 DMBLive a few weeks ago and shut it off after four songs that's high praise for this show. Listening to this Recently again right now, and yeah, this is one I'll be coming back to with regularity.

cryfreedom09
04-21-2016, 10:21 AM
This Two Step is pure bliss. Great release overall.

Christopher James
04-21-2016, 10:44 AM
Just purchased and downloaded.. listening now. Already enjoying it immensely. They were tight right from the get-go.

Christopher James
04-21-2016, 11:03 AM
What Peter adds to the chorus part or bridge or whatever that is on Dancing Nancies is awesome.

Edit: Under the "sing and dance.. la la la hey.. .."

So awesome.

celluloid hero
04-21-2016, 11:16 AM
Live Trax v37: The Redemption of Peter. He always knew he didn't ruin the band's sound, and now we do, too.

sean52692
04-21-2016, 11:20 AM
What Peter adds to the chorus part or bridge or whatever that is on Dancing Nancies is awesome.

Edit: Under the "sing and dance.. la la la hey.. .."

So awesome.

plus he kind of wrote the end part that Boyd now plays to segue into Warehouse

greykitkat36
04-21-2016, 12:12 PM
I don't get why people hate on spotlight. I think it's a cool little song. I wouldn't mind if they played that again at all. :lol don't worry I'm aware it will not happen. Kind of fitting too where they are in their career at 25 years "wouldn't you like to retire..."

Bluewater34
04-21-2016, 12:33 PM
I don't get why people hate on spotlight. I think it's a cool little song. I wouldn't mind if they played that again at all. :lol don't worry I'm aware it will not happen. Kind of fitting too where they are in their career at 25 years "wouldn't you like to retire..."

For me Spotlight has always been kind of a nothing song. Musically it's fine, kind of fun, not much to it. Lyrically it's sophomoric (whether by design or not) and silly. But when I listened to it yesterday, I had the thought that that song could easily have been the opening theme song to an 80s sitcom, without changing much. It didn't improve my outlook on the song.

Minarets
04-21-2016, 01:23 PM
Well, I know it's not a good barometer, but I listened to the help myself on sound cloud sample and man was it flat sounding. I know it is somewhat a sign of the times but does it sound so flat on the download?

Bluewater34
04-21-2016, 01:44 PM
Well, I know it's not a good barometer, but I listened to the help myself on sound cloud sample and man was it flat sounding. I know it is somewhat a sign of the times but does it sound so flat on the download?



The recording quality is very clear and the mix is good, but it is a little flat and empty. It's definitely due to the equipment and the times, like you said.

greykitkat36
04-21-2016, 02:15 PM
Well, I know it's not a good barometer, but I listened to the help myself on sound cloud sample and man was it flat sounding. I know it is somewhat a sign of the times but does it sound so flat on the download?

I don't hear that at all, I think it sounds damn good especially for 1992. In fact, I think it sounds better than some of the more recent live releases. It has a lot of Stefan in the mix which is great, and it's very clear and crisp. I also like the compression they used on Roi, you can clearly hear everything he is playing...and he sounds damn good on this release, it was refreshing to hear. He sounds almost as technical as Jeff in certain spots.

Seriously, how good is this show! L be listening to this a hell of a lot. Wow.

Christopher James
04-21-2016, 04:26 PM
Here's some more observations:

1.) Peter ruins Two Step

2.) If Dave wrote ALL these songs in 1992 (LOL!) he hasn't been a good writer (minus a few pieces of brilliance, Grey Street, Raven, Bartender..) in like 200 years.

3.) It's cool to hear an SBD of the band when they were hungry and had eye of the tiger.

4.) They're way, way tighter by 1995 Red Rocks just 2 or 3 years later.

Tomacco
04-21-2016, 04:36 PM
Some takeaways:
- mix is surprisingly good (i.e. Peter-free)
- Peter does however cheese up a handful of songs
- love the looseness and jammy interplay you don't usually see to this extent anymore (most of all: Two Step, Ants, Recently)
- love hearing Roi very vocally cheering on BT
- speaking of BT, this show is the best indication how crappy he is now
- Dave's nasal voice still isn't my thing
- how cool would it be for them to play Spotlight in CVille? You know the whole crowd would lose their shit. Ain't gonna happen but it would be really awesome if it did. Besides, Dave has written a lot of bigger turds since then, I wonder if he still hates the song.

Bluewater34
04-21-2016, 04:52 PM
Some takeaways:

- speaking of BT, this show is the best indication how crappy he is now.

- how cool would it be for them to play Spotlight in CVille? You know the whole crowd would lose their shit. Ain't gonna happen but it would be really awesome if it did. Besides, Dave has written a lot of bigger turds since then, I wonder if he still hates the song.



I had that thought about Boyd. If Boyd from today Quantum Leaped into himself back then, it'd be a completely different show.

And I think if they played Spotlight in Cville at least half that crowd would have no idea what was going on.

Mersh
04-21-2016, 05:12 PM
and the song would still be bad.

greykitkat36
04-21-2016, 06:47 PM
I personally don't find Peter bad on this release at all, but it's shame because the parts he playing are actually really good but his actual keyboard sound and choice of effects are terrible. I love his part in Two Step here the problem is he's playing the worst possible electric piano sound he could use. He should have just used a standard piano sound like Butch used to.

Bluewater34
04-21-2016, 07:00 PM
I personally don't find Peter bad on this release at all, but it's shame because the parts he playing are actually really good but his actual keyboard sound and choice of effects are terrible. I love his part in Two Step here the problem is he's playing the worst possible electric piano sound he could use. He should have just used a standard piano sound like Butch used to.



Yeah, exactly the issue.

ThememanXX
04-21-2016, 07:15 PM
I'd love Dave to come out by himself and play like a minute long Spotlight tease, just for shits and giggles. Start with "a million beating hearts," and go through "here I cannot stay."